Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz
03-14-2015, 06:55 PM
Ah, but 7.92mm is NOT a .50 cal. Sorry, but not what I'm lookimg for!
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
03-15-2015, 07:10 AM
New clues:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
03-15-2015, 01:38 PM
New clues:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
[TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]LaGG-1[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Fighter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]OKB - 301, Khimki, Moscow region[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Designer[/TH]
[TD]V. P. Gorbunov[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]30 March 1940[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Status[/TH]
[TD]prototype only[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Produced[/TH]
[TD]1940[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Variants[/TH]
[TD]LaGG-3
La-5
La-7[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Armament
- 2x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns located above the engine
- 2x 12.7 mm UBS machine guns located above the engine
- 1x 20 mm ShVAK cannon firing through the propeller hub
03-15-2015, 03:48 PM
Not that one!
Sorry! 
Not the LaGG-1. New clue: 1. Single engine. 2. Monoplane. 3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield. 4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament. 5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109. 6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940 7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction. 8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war. 9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
Not the LaGG-1. New clue: 1. Single engine. 2. Monoplane. 3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield. 4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament. 5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109. 6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940 7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction. 8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war. 9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
Last edited by JohnnyS; 03-15-2015 at 03:57 PM.
03-15-2015, 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by JohnnyS 
New clues:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
USSR
Pashinin I-21 (not to be confused with the Ilyushin TsKB-32,
Armament
- 2 Χ 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns, in wings, and
- one 20mm ShVAK cannon or 23mm BT-23 cannon firing through propeller hub.
03-15-2015, 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by JohnnyS New clues:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
The Sukhoi Su-1 or I-330(Russian:Сухой Су-1) was a prototypeSoviet high-altitudefighter aircraft built at the beginning ofWorld War II. An improved version, designatedSu-3 (I-360), was also built and tested the following year. Neither version was mass-produced.[SUP][1][/SUP][TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Su-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]High-altitude fighter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Sukhoi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Designer[/TH]
[TD]Pavel Sukhoi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]15 June 1940[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Status[/TH]
[TD]Prototype[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Soviet Air Force[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]one Su-1, one Su-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Armament
- 1 Χ 20 mm (0.79 in) ShVAK cannon
- 2 Χ 7.62 mm (0.30 in) ShKAS machine guns
Last edited by HoundDog; 03-15-2015 at 08:10 PM.
03-16-2015, 04:16 AM
Sorry, but no.
7.92mm machine guns, not 7.62mm!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
7.92mm machine guns, not 7.62mm!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
03-16-2015, 06:37 AM
Sorry, but no.
7.92mm machine guns, not 7.62mm!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
7.92mm machine guns, not 7.62mm!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Yak-7 (UTI-26)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]
[/TD][/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Fighter, trainer - In the picture, Yak-7B/M-105PA serial N°23-03 (3rd production batch, 22nd aircraft) during its trials at the NII VVS.[SUP][1][/SUP][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Yakovlev[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Designer[/TH]
[TD]Alexander Sergeevich Yakovlev[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]23 July 1940[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1942[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Status[/TH]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Soviet Air Force[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Produced[/TH]
[TD]6,399[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Developed from[/TH]
[TD]Yak-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The SovietYakovlev Yak-7 was developed from the earlier Yak-1fighter, initially as atrainer but converted into a fighter. As both a fighter and later reverting to its original training role, the Yak-7 proved to be a capable aircraft and was well liked by air crews. The Yak-7 was simpler, tougher and generally better than the Yak-1.[SUP][2][/SUP]
Armament
- 1 Χ 20 mm (0.787 in) ShVAK cannon
- 2 Χ 7.62 mm (0.300 in) ShKAS machine guns. Later models like the "B", used x 2 7.92 mm Berezin_UBguns.
03-16-2015, 07:18 AM
Sorry, but no. Not the Yak-7. The engine doesn't fit the clues.
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
Not the Yak-7. The engine doesn't fit the clues.New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
03-17-2015, 12:21 AM
Avia B-135?
The Avia B.135 (RLM designation Av-135) was a Czechoslovak cantilever monoplane fighter aircraft. It was the production version of the Avia B.35 developed shortly before the war, based on the B.35/3 prototype but featuring a new all-metal wing.
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 8.5 m (27 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 10.85 m (35 ft 7 in)
Height: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
Wing area: 17 m2 (180 sq ft)
Empty weight: 2,063 kg (4,548 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 2,547 kg (5,615 lb)
Powerplant: 1 Χ Avia (Hispano-Suiza) 12Ycrs V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 641 kW (860 hp)
Propellers: 2-bladed wooden fixed pitch propeller
Performance
Maximum speed: 535 km/h (332 mph; 289 kn) at 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
Cruising speed: 460 km/h (286 mph; 248 kn)
Range: 550 km (342 mi; 297 nmi)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,887 ft)
Rate of climb: 13.5 m/s (2,660 ft/min)
Armament
Guns:
1 Χ 20 mm (0.79 in) MG FF cannon
2 Χ 7.92 mm (0.312 in) Mk. 30 (Českα zbrojovka Strakonice) machine guns
The Avia B.135 (RLM designation Av-135) was a Czechoslovak cantilever monoplane fighter aircraft. It was the production version of the Avia B.35 developed shortly before the war, based on the B.35/3 prototype but featuring a new all-metal wing.
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 8.5 m (27 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 10.85 m (35 ft 7 in)
Height: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
Wing area: 17 m2 (180 sq ft)
Empty weight: 2,063 kg (4,548 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 2,547 kg (5,615 lb)
Powerplant: 1 Χ Avia (Hispano-Suiza) 12Ycrs V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 641 kW (860 hp)
Propellers: 2-bladed wooden fixed pitch propeller
Performance
Maximum speed: 535 km/h (332 mph; 289 kn) at 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
Cruising speed: 460 km/h (286 mph; 248 kn)
Range: 550 km (342 mi; 297 nmi)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,887 ft)
Rate of climb: 13.5 m/s (2,660 ft/min)
Armament
Guns:
1 Χ 20 mm (0.79 in) MG FF cannon
2 Χ 7.92 mm (0.312 in) Mk. 30 (Českα zbrojovka Strakonice) machine guns
03-17-2015, 04:11 AM
MUCH closer, but still not quite right.
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
03-17-2015, 04:56 AM
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.[/QUOTE]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_B-135
[h=1]Avia B-135
[/h][h=2]Specifications (B.135)[edit][/h]General characteristics
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.[/QUOTE]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_B-135
[h=1]Avia B-135
[/h][h=2]Specifications (B.135)[edit][/h]General characteristics- Crew: 1
- Length: 8.5 m (27 ft 11 in)
- Wingspan: 10.85 m (35 ft 7 in)
- Height: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
- Wing area: 17 m[SUP]2[/SUP] (180 sq ft)
- Empty weight: 2,063 kg (4,548 lb)
- Max takeoff weight: 2,547 kg (5,615 lb)
- Powerplant: 1 Χ Avia (Hispano-Suiza) 12Ycrs V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 641 kW (860 hp)
- Propellers: 2-bladed wooden fixed pitch propeller
- Maximum speed: 535 km/h (332 mph; 289 kn) at 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
- Cruising speed: 460 km/h (286 mph; 248 kn)
- Range: 550 km (342 mi; 297 nmi)
- Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,887 ft)
- Rate of climb: 13.5 m/s (2,660 ft/min)
- Guns:
- 1 Χ 20 mm (0.79 in) MG FF cannon
- 2 Χ 7.92 mm (0.312 in) Mk. 30 (Českα zbrojovka Strakonice) machine guns
03-17-2015, 06:18 AM
Not the Avia B-135, sorry.
We already had that guess, so I won't give a new clue, but I will give a hint!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
HINT: The test pilots in Clue #5 had personal hands-on flight experience with BOTH the Hawker Hurricane and the Me-109: That's why they were able to make the conclusion listed in Clue #5.
We already had that guess, so I won't give a new clue, but I will give a hint!
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
HINT: The test pilots in Clue #5 had personal hands-on flight experience with BOTH the Hawker Hurricane and the Me-109: That's why they were able to make the conclusion listed in Clue #5.
03-17-2015, 10:03 AM
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I had help...
Here is a Cut and paste:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Morane-Saulnier M.S.406[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Morane-Saulnier D-3801 (GC LaFayette)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Fighter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Morane-Saulnier[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]8 August 1935 (M.S.405)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1938[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Primary users[/TH]
[TD]French Air Force
Finnish Air Force
Swiss Air Force
Turkish Air Force[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]1,176[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The M.S.406 was a French Armιe de l'Air fighter aircraft built by Morane-Saulnier starting in 1938. Numerically, it was France's most important fighter during the opening stages of World War II.
Although sturdy and highly maneuverable,[SUP][1][/SUP] it was underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries. Most critically, it was outperformed by the Messerschmitt Bf 109E during the Battle of France. The M.S.406 held its own in the early stages of the war (the so-called Phoney War), but when the war restarted in earnest in 1940, losses to all causes amounted to approximately 400 aircraft. Out of this total some 150 were lost to enemy fighters and ground fire, another 100 were destroyed on the ground in enemy air raids and the remainder was deliberately destroyed by French military personnel to prevent the fighters from falling into enemy hands intact. In return M.S.406 squadrons achieved 191 confirmed victories and another 83 probable victories.[SUP][2][/SUP] The type was more successful in the hands of Finnish and Swiss air forces who developed indigenous models.
[h=2]Contents[/h]
[h=2]Design and development[/h] [h=3]M.S.405[/h] In 1934, the Service Technique Aιronautique (Aeronautical Technical Service) of the Armιe de l'Air issued the "C1 design" requirement for a new and completely modern single-seat fighter with a monoplane layout and retracting landing gear.
Morane-Saulnier's response was the M.S.405 developed by Engineer in Chief Paul-Renι Gauthier. The MS.405 was a low-wing monoplane of mixed construction, with fabric-covered wooden tail, but a bonded metal/wood material (Plymax) skin fixed to duralumin tubing. Plymax consisted of a thin sheet of duralumin bonded to a thicker sheet of plywood. Morane-Saulnier had a long history of producing warplanes dating back to pre-World War I years, but in the inter-war period, they had concentrated on civil designs. The aircraft was a departure for them, being their first low-wing monoplane, first with an enclosed cockpit, and first design with retracting landing gear. Prior to this, their most modern designs were fixed-gear parasol monoplanes.
The new 641.3 kW (860 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Ygrs engine driving a two-pitch Chauviθre propeller powered the first M.S405-1 prototype, which flew on 8 August 1935.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] Development was very slow, and the second M.S.405-2 prototype with a 671.1 kW (900 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs engine didn't fly until 20 January 1937,[SUP][3][/SUP] almost a year and a half later. With the new engine the fighter reached 443 km/h (275 mph), fast enough to secure an order for a further 16 pre-production prototypes, each including improvements on the previous version.
[h=3]M.S.406[/h]
Swiss built D-3801 representing a Maurane Saulnier 406 in Rennes 2007
The result of these changes was the M.S.406. The two main changes were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and a retractable radiator under the fuselage. Powered by the production 641.3 kW (860 hp) HS 12Y-31 engine, the new design was over 8 km/h (5 mph) faster than the 405, at 489 km/h (304 mph). Armament consisted of a 20 mm (0.787 in) Hispano-Suiza HS.9 or 404 cannon with 60 rounds in the V of the engine and fired through the propeller hub, and two 7.5 mm (0.295 in) MAC 1934 machine guns (one in each wing, each with 300 rounds). A weakness of the MAC 1934 was its operation at high altitudes. It was found that at altitudes over 20,000 ft, the guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were added to the guns for high-altitude use.
[h=3]M.S.410[/h] While the 406s were entering service in 1939, an upgrade series was started to improve the design. The result was the M.S.410, which included a stronger wing, simpler fixed radiator in place of the earlier retractable design, four belt-fed MAC guns in place of the earlier two drum-fed weapons, and exhaust ejectors for additional thrust. The added thrust boosted the top speed to 509 km/h (316 mph), an improvement of about 16 km/h (10 mph) over the 406.
Production had just started when France fell, and only five examples had been completed. Production was allowed to continue under German supervision, converting earlier 406s to the 410 standard, but many of these received only the new wings. Altogether 74 planes were modified.[SUP][5][/SUP]
[h=3]M.S.411, M.S.412[/h] A single example of the M.S.411 was constructed by converting the 12th aircraft of the pre-production line with the 406 wing and the 745.7 kW (1,000 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 engine. A later modification was started as the M.S.412 with the 783.0 kW (1,050 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51 engine, but this was not completed by the time the war ended.
[h=3]M.S.450[/h] In 1939, Hispano started prototype deliveries of the new Hispano-Suiza 12Z engine of 969.4 kW (1,300 hp). One was fitted to a modified 410 to create the M.S.450, giving dramatic improvements in performance, especially at altitude. However the engine did not enter production before France fell, and the similarly modified Dewoitine D.520 (the D.523/D.551) was considered a better design for the engine anyway.
[h=3]Other variants[/h] The M.S.406 airframe was also used in a number of other projects. The M.S.430 was a two-seat trainer built by inserting a "plug" in the central fuselage with an extra cockpit for the trainee pilot, and using the much less powerful 290.8 kW (390 hp) Salmson 9 radial engine. The M.S.435 was a more powerful version with the 410.1 kW (550 hp) Gnome-Rhτne 9K engine.
[h=2]Swiss variants[/h]
D-3801, a Swiss development of MS-406
Morane D-3801 J-143 (Association Morane Charlie-Fox)
[h=3]D-3800[/h] In 1938, Switzerland obtained a license for local production of the MS.406. Two MS.406H fighters were supplied to Switzerland in September 1938 and April 1939 to serve as pattern aircraft as the D-3800,[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] retaining the earlier wing design of the 405, but powered by the newer Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 engines as used by the MS.406.
Pre-production started with a run of eight aircraft from EKW with engines built by Adolph Saurer AG driving a new Escher-Wyss EW-V3 fully adjustable propeller. Instruments were replaced with Swiss versions and the drum-fed MAC machine guns with locally designed and built belt-fed guns, so eliminating the wing-bulges of the French version, and avoiding the freezing problems encountered by French guns. The first of these aircraft was completed in November 1939. The pre-production models were then followed with an order for a further 74 examples, which were all delivered by 29 August 1940. In 1942, a further two were assembled with spares originally set aside for the original production run.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]
During 1944, surviving aircraft were modified with new cooling and hydraulic installations, and were fitted with ejector exhausts. These modifications were the same standard as the D-3801 series, making them identical with the exception of the engine installation. At the end of the war the remaining aircraft were used as trainers, until the last one was scrapped in 1954.[SUP][11][/SUP]
[h=3]D.3801/3803[/h] The Swiss continued development of the MS.412 when French involvement stopped following the June 1940 Armistice. The Dornier-Altenrhein factory completed a prototype powered with a licenced-produced HS-51 12Y engine, generating 790.4 kW (1,060 hp) together with the fixed radiator and revised exhausts as tested on the MS.411, in October 1940. The new type retained the armament changes and other improvements introduced on the D.3800.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP] This series was put into production in 1941 as the D-3801 with continued deliveries until 1945 with 207 completed. Another 17 were built from spares between 1947 and 1948.[SUP][12][/SUP] Reliability of the new engine was at first extremely poor, with problems with crankshaft bearings causing several accidents. The engine problems slowed deliveries, with only 16 aircraft produced in 1942 and a single aircraft delivered in 1943. The engine problems were eventually resolved in 1944.[SUP][13][/SUP] With 790.4 kW (1,060 hp) from the Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51, the speed was boosted to 534 km/h (332 mph), roughly equivalent to the D.520 or the Hurricane. Weights were between 2,124–2,725 kg (4,683–6,008 lb). After being retired from operational use as a fighter when the North American P-51 Mustang was acquired in 1948, the type remained in service as a trainer and target tug until 1959.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP]
The D.3802 was based on the MS.450, emerging as the MS.540, with a Saurer YS-2 932.1 kW (1,250 hp) engine. The prototype flew in the autumn of 1944, revealing several shortcomings, but it was capable of 630 km/h (391 mph; 340 kn). 12 were produced seeing limited use with Fliegerstaffel 17 and some other units.
The last development of this aircraft was the D.3803, with 1,118.5 kW (1,500 hp) Saurer YS-3 engine, and modified dorsal fuselage (with an all-round visibility canopy). The D.3803 was armed with three HS-404 20 mm (0.787 in) cannon (one in the nose, two in the wings), plus up to 200 kg (441 lb) bombs and rockets. Despite not having a powerful engine, the type reached 680 km/h (423 mph; 367 kn) at 7,000 m (22,966 ft). The performance was impressive, but the last development of this 1935 fighter design had several shortcomings and was not entirely successful. Its development was halted as P-51D Mustangs became available.[15
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Morane-Saulnier M.S.406[/TH]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Morane-Saulnier D-3801 (GC LaFayette)[/TD]
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[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Fighter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Morane-Saulnier[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]8 August 1935 (M.S.405)[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1938[/TD]
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[TH]Primary users[/TH]
[TD]French Air Force
Finnish Air Force
Swiss Air Force
Turkish Air Force[/TD]
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[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]1,176[/TD]
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The M.S.406 was a French Armιe de l'Air fighter aircraft built by Morane-Saulnier starting in 1938. Numerically, it was France's most important fighter during the opening stages of World War II.
Although sturdy and highly maneuverable,[SUP][1][/SUP] it was underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries. Most critically, it was outperformed by the Messerschmitt Bf 109E during the Battle of France. The M.S.406 held its own in the early stages of the war (the so-called Phoney War), but when the war restarted in earnest in 1940, losses to all causes amounted to approximately 400 aircraft. Out of this total some 150 were lost to enemy fighters and ground fire, another 100 were destroyed on the ground in enemy air raids and the remainder was deliberately destroyed by French military personnel to prevent the fighters from falling into enemy hands intact. In return M.S.406 squadrons achieved 191 confirmed victories and another 83 probable victories.[SUP][2][/SUP] The type was more successful in the hands of Finnish and Swiss air forces who developed indigenous models.
[h=2]Contents[/h]
- 1 Design and development
- 2 Swiss variants
- 3 Finnish variants
- 4 Operational history
- 5 Operators
- 6 Specifications (M.S.406)
- 7 See also
- 8 References
- 9 External links
[h=2]Design and development[/h] [h=3]M.S.405[/h] In 1934, the Service Technique Aιronautique (Aeronautical Technical Service) of the Armιe de l'Air issued the "C1 design" requirement for a new and completely modern single-seat fighter with a monoplane layout and retracting landing gear.
Morane-Saulnier's response was the M.S.405 developed by Engineer in Chief Paul-Renι Gauthier. The MS.405 was a low-wing monoplane of mixed construction, with fabric-covered wooden tail, but a bonded metal/wood material (Plymax) skin fixed to duralumin tubing. Plymax consisted of a thin sheet of duralumin bonded to a thicker sheet of plywood. Morane-Saulnier had a long history of producing warplanes dating back to pre-World War I years, but in the inter-war period, they had concentrated on civil designs. The aircraft was a departure for them, being their first low-wing monoplane, first with an enclosed cockpit, and first design with retracting landing gear. Prior to this, their most modern designs were fixed-gear parasol monoplanes.
The new 641.3 kW (860 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Ygrs engine driving a two-pitch Chauviθre propeller powered the first M.S405-1 prototype, which flew on 8 August 1935.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] Development was very slow, and the second M.S.405-2 prototype with a 671.1 kW (900 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs engine didn't fly until 20 January 1937,[SUP][3][/SUP] almost a year and a half later. With the new engine the fighter reached 443 km/h (275 mph), fast enough to secure an order for a further 16 pre-production prototypes, each including improvements on the previous version.
[h=3]M.S.406[/h]
Swiss built D-3801 representing a Maurane Saulnier 406 in Rennes 2007
The result of these changes was the M.S.406. The two main changes were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and a retractable radiator under the fuselage. Powered by the production 641.3 kW (860 hp) HS 12Y-31 engine, the new design was over 8 km/h (5 mph) faster than the 405, at 489 km/h (304 mph). Armament consisted of a 20 mm (0.787 in) Hispano-Suiza HS.9 or 404 cannon with 60 rounds in the V of the engine and fired through the propeller hub, and two 7.5 mm (0.295 in) MAC 1934 machine guns (one in each wing, each with 300 rounds). A weakness of the MAC 1934 was its operation at high altitudes. It was found that at altitudes over 20,000 ft, the guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were added to the guns for high-altitude use.
[h=3]M.S.410[/h] While the 406s were entering service in 1939, an upgrade series was started to improve the design. The result was the M.S.410, which included a stronger wing, simpler fixed radiator in place of the earlier retractable design, four belt-fed MAC guns in place of the earlier two drum-fed weapons, and exhaust ejectors for additional thrust. The added thrust boosted the top speed to 509 km/h (316 mph), an improvement of about 16 km/h (10 mph) over the 406.
Production had just started when France fell, and only five examples had been completed. Production was allowed to continue under German supervision, converting earlier 406s to the 410 standard, but many of these received only the new wings. Altogether 74 planes were modified.[SUP][5][/SUP]
[h=3]M.S.411, M.S.412[/h] A single example of the M.S.411 was constructed by converting the 12th aircraft of the pre-production line with the 406 wing and the 745.7 kW (1,000 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 engine. A later modification was started as the M.S.412 with the 783.0 kW (1,050 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51 engine, but this was not completed by the time the war ended.
[h=3]M.S.450[/h] In 1939, Hispano started prototype deliveries of the new Hispano-Suiza 12Z engine of 969.4 kW (1,300 hp). One was fitted to a modified 410 to create the M.S.450, giving dramatic improvements in performance, especially at altitude. However the engine did not enter production before France fell, and the similarly modified Dewoitine D.520 (the D.523/D.551) was considered a better design for the engine anyway.
[h=3]Other variants[/h] The M.S.406 airframe was also used in a number of other projects. The M.S.430 was a two-seat trainer built by inserting a "plug" in the central fuselage with an extra cockpit for the trainee pilot, and using the much less powerful 290.8 kW (390 hp) Salmson 9 radial engine. The M.S.435 was a more powerful version with the 410.1 kW (550 hp) Gnome-Rhτne 9K engine.
[h=2]Swiss variants[/h]
D-3801, a Swiss development of MS-406
Morane D-3801 J-143 (Association Morane Charlie-Fox)
[h=3]D-3800[/h] In 1938, Switzerland obtained a license for local production of the MS.406. Two MS.406H fighters were supplied to Switzerland in September 1938 and April 1939 to serve as pattern aircraft as the D-3800,[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] retaining the earlier wing design of the 405, but powered by the newer Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 engines as used by the MS.406.
Pre-production started with a run of eight aircraft from EKW with engines built by Adolph Saurer AG driving a new Escher-Wyss EW-V3 fully adjustable propeller. Instruments were replaced with Swiss versions and the drum-fed MAC machine guns with locally designed and built belt-fed guns, so eliminating the wing-bulges of the French version, and avoiding the freezing problems encountered by French guns. The first of these aircraft was completed in November 1939. The pre-production models were then followed with an order for a further 74 examples, which were all delivered by 29 August 1940. In 1942, a further two were assembled with spares originally set aside for the original production run.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]
During 1944, surviving aircraft were modified with new cooling and hydraulic installations, and were fitted with ejector exhausts. These modifications were the same standard as the D-3801 series, making them identical with the exception of the engine installation. At the end of the war the remaining aircraft were used as trainers, until the last one was scrapped in 1954.[SUP][11][/SUP]
[h=3]D.3801/3803[/h] The Swiss continued development of the MS.412 when French involvement stopped following the June 1940 Armistice. The Dornier-Altenrhein factory completed a prototype powered with a licenced-produced HS-51 12Y engine, generating 790.4 kW (1,060 hp) together with the fixed radiator and revised exhausts as tested on the MS.411, in October 1940. The new type retained the armament changes and other improvements introduced on the D.3800.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP] This series was put into production in 1941 as the D-3801 with continued deliveries until 1945 with 207 completed. Another 17 were built from spares between 1947 and 1948.[SUP][12][/SUP] Reliability of the new engine was at first extremely poor, with problems with crankshaft bearings causing several accidents. The engine problems slowed deliveries, with only 16 aircraft produced in 1942 and a single aircraft delivered in 1943. The engine problems were eventually resolved in 1944.[SUP][13][/SUP] With 790.4 kW (1,060 hp) from the Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51, the speed was boosted to 534 km/h (332 mph), roughly equivalent to the D.520 or the Hurricane. Weights were between 2,124–2,725 kg (4,683–6,008 lb). After being retired from operational use as a fighter when the North American P-51 Mustang was acquired in 1948, the type remained in service as a trainer and target tug until 1959.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP]
The D.3802 was based on the MS.450, emerging as the MS.540, with a Saurer YS-2 932.1 kW (1,250 hp) engine. The prototype flew in the autumn of 1944, revealing several shortcomings, but it was capable of 630 km/h (391 mph; 340 kn). 12 were produced seeing limited use with Fliegerstaffel 17 and some other units.
The last development of this aircraft was the D.3803, with 1,118.5 kW (1,500 hp) Saurer YS-3 engine, and modified dorsal fuselage (with an all-round visibility canopy). The D.3803 was armed with three HS-404 20 mm (0.787 in) cannon (one in the nose, two in the wings), plus up to 200 kg (441 lb) bombs and rockets. Despite not having a powerful engine, the type reached 680 km/h (423 mph; 367 kn) at 7,000 m (22,966 ft). The performance was impressive, but the last development of this 1935 fighter design had several shortcomings and was not entirely successful. Its development was halted as P-51D Mustangs became available.[15
03-17-2015, 10:43 AM
From what I can find, M.S.406 or the Swiss variants didn't use 7.92mm machine guns???
I think the type has its own charm - in a very non-Mustang or Spitfire way, though
I think the type has its own charm - in a very non-Mustang or Spitfire way, though
Last edited by perttime; 03-17-2015 at 10:45 AM.
03-17-2015, 11:55 AM
Not the Morane-Saulnier.
This clue should break it wide open...
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
15. Number built: 12
This clue should break it wide open...
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
15. Number built: 12
03-17-2015, 03:46 PM
Not the Morane-Saulnier.
This clue should break it wide open...
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
15. Number built: 12
This clue should break it wide open...
New clue:
1. Single engine.
2. Monoplane.
3. Bulletproof glass in the windshield.
4. One 20-mm cannon and two 7.92mm calibre machine guns for armament.
5. Test pilots described it as a general improvement over the Hawker Hurricane, and more maneuverable than the Me-109.
6. The first production aircraft were delivered to operational squadrons in the summer of 1940
7. Mixed steel tube, wood, and fabric construction.
8. This aircraft was used as the basis for the first fighter aircraft produced in its home country after the war.
9. The production aircraft were powered by a liquid-cooled V-12 which was *not* built in England, the USA or Russia.
10. The engine was *not* built in Germany either!
11. The engine was not a copy or licensed version of any USA, British, German or Russian design. However it *was* a design that was licensed to other nations.
12. Development of this aircraft started in 1936.
13. The landing gear was retractable and made by a french company.
14. Three bladed propellor.
15. Number built: 12
[TR]
[TD]Doflug D-3802[/TD]
[TD]Switzerland[/TD]
[TD]1944[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fokker PW-5[/TD]
[TD]Netherlands[/TD]
[TD]1921[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heinkel HD 38[/TD]
[TD]Germany - Weimar Republic[/TD]
[TD]1928[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ikarus IK-2[/TD]
[TD]Yugoslavia[/TD]
[TD]1935[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Macchi M.71 catapult flying boat fighter[/TD]
[TD]Italy[/TD]
[TD]1930[/TD]
[TD]12 ca.[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250 mixed power fighter[/TD]
[TD]USSR[/TD]
[TD]1945[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Abandoned[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nieuport-Delage NiD 626 Peruvian version[/TD]
[TD]France[/TD]
[TD]1932[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rogožarski IK-3[/TD]
[TD]Yugoslavia[/TD]
[TD]1938[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SNCASO (Sud-Ouest) Trident[/TD]
[TD]France[/TD]
[TD]1953[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Abandoned[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vought VE-7S & VE-7SF[/TD]
[TD]United States[/TD]
[TD]1917[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Retired[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Yakovlev Yak-36 VTOL fighter[/TD]
[TD]USSR[/TD]
[TD]1963[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Is this cheating LOL
03-17-2015, 03:56 PM
herbarnold99
Nice shot for a guy that just joined RCU. Welcome Aboard. Sure looks like U will be up next Congrats.
Nice shot for a guy that just joined RCU. Welcome Aboard. Sure looks like U will be up next Congrats.