Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz
06-17-2015, 12:19 PM
1.This aircraft first flew durning the early summer of 1941
2. Started out with two engines ended up with four.
3. This aircraft's finest hour was in the winter of 1943
4. Performance of the twin and four engine aircraft was very similar
5.All but One of the aircraft were destroyed by emeny action ** another source says two survived the war..
6.The surviving aircraft was pressed into service repatriating prisoners of war from both sides immediately after the war
7.This aircraft must have make a tire (tyre) supplier very happy .
8.This aircraft had a rear loading ramp offered sufficient clearance to permit direct loading / unloading onto trucks
9. This aircraft had 25(twenty five) tires(tyres)
2. Started out with two engines ended up with four.
3. This aircraft's finest hour was in the winter of 1943
4. Performance of the twin and four engine aircraft was very similar
5.All but One of the aircraft were destroyed by emeny action ** another source says two survived the war..
6.The surviving aircraft was pressed into service repatriating prisoners of war from both sides immediately after the war
7.This aircraft must have make a tire (tyre) supplier very happy .
8.This aircraft had a rear loading ramp offered sufficient clearance to permit direct loading / unloading onto trucks
9. This aircraft had 25(twenty five) tires(tyres)
06-17-2015, 12:54 PM
Sal, you are the winner. The next question is yours
Arado Ar 232
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Arado Ar 232 B-0[/TD]
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[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Transport[/TD]
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[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Arado Flugzeugwerke[/TD]
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[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]June 1941[/TD]
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[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1943[/TD]
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[TH]Retired[/TH]
[TD]1945[/TD]
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[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Luftwaffe[/TD]
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[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]~20[/TD]
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The Arado Ar 232 Tausendfόίler (German: "Millipede"), sometimes also called Tatzelwurm, was one of the first truly modern cargo aircraft,[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] designed and built in small numbers by the German firm Arado Flugzeugwerke during World War II. The design introduced, or brought together, almost all of the features now considered to be "standard" in modern cargo transport aircraft designs, including a box-like fuselage slung beneath a high wing; a rear loading ramp (that had first appeared on the December 1939-flown Junkers Ju 90 V5 fifth prototype four-engined transport via its Trapoklappe); a high tail for easy access to the hold; and various features for operating from rough fields. Although the Luftwaffe was interested in replacing or supplementing its fleet of outdated Junkers Ju 52/3m transports, it had an abundance of types in production at the time and did not purchase large numbers of the Ar 232.
Design[edit]
The Ar 232 design resulted from a tender offered by the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (German Air Ministry, RLM) in late 1939 for a replacement for the Ju 52/3m transport. Both Arado and Henschel were asked for rear-loading designs powered by two 1,193 kW (1,600 hp) BMW 801A/B radial engines, which was just entering prototype production and not currently used on any front-line designs. The Arado design beat out Henschel's after an examination of the plans, and an order for three prototypes was placed in 1940.
Wilhelm van Nes led the design of the Ar 232. He began at the cargo area, with a bay directly behind the "stepless cockpit" that was 6.6 m (21 ft 7Ύ in) long, 2.3 m (7 ft 6½ in) wide and 2.0 m (6 ft 6Ύ in) high. Typical designs of the era would use a side-mounted door for access, but the Ar 232 used hydraulically powered clamshell-doors on the rear of the bay with a ramp to allow cargo to be rolled into the hold. The tail control surfaces were mounted on the end of a long boom to keep the area behind the doors clear so trucks could drive right up to the ramp, much like the 1944-era American Fairchild C-82 Packet of a differing twin boom fuselage configuration. The high-set tail on its "pod-and-boom" configuration fuselage allowed the Ar 232 to be loaded and unloaded faster than other designs.
For short-field performance, the Ar 232 incorporated Arado's own "travelling flap" design for the entire rear surface of the wing. Even loaded to 16,000 kg (35,270 lb), it could take-off in 200 m (656 ft). This distance could be further reduced by using rocket assist (RATO) for take-off, and either parachutes or reverse RATO for landing.
The most noticeable feature of the Ar 232 was the landing gear. Normal operations from prepared runways used a tricycle gear, but the struts could "break", or kneel, after landing to place the fuselage closer to the ground and thereby reduce the ramp angle. An additional set of ten or eleven smaller, non-retractable twinned wheels per side supported the aircraft once the main landing gear's lever-action lower oleo-strut suspended arm - carrying the main gear's wheel/tire unit - was "broken", or could be used for additional support when landing on soft or rough airfields. The aircraft was intended to be capable of taxiing at low speeds on its row of small wheels, thus being able to negotiate small obstacles such as ditches up to 1.5 m (5 ft) in width. The appearance of the row of small wheels led to the nickname "millipede". In flight, the main legs fully retracted into the engine nacelles, while the fixed support wheels remained exposed and the nose wheel only semi-retracted.
Normally operated by a crew of four, the pilot was the only member without two roles. The navigator operated a 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun in the nose, the radio operator a 20 mm MG 151 cannon in a rotating turret on the roof, and the loadmaster a 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun firing rearward from the extreme rear of the cargo bay above the cargo doors.
Development[edit]
Even before the prototypes were complete in 1941, the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 project had been earmarked to use the BMW 801A/B, and was proving to be a capable design. Production of the BMW 801 was insufficient to supply this new demand, and the Ar 232 was forced to use another engine. Eventually, the BMW Bramo 323 from the Junkers Ju 352 was selected instead, as it was already in production and could meet requirements if the Ar 232 really did replace the Ju 52/3m in service. The prototypes were far enough along that switching engines would have seriously delayed the program, so the first two were to be completed as the Ar 232A, and the third and a newly ordered fourth as the Ar 232B. The third and fourth prototypes (and all production aircraft) used four engines (in place of the two specified in the RLM specification) in order to provide the desired performance.
An Ar 232A-0 in 1945
The first two prototypes, bearing the Stammkennzeichen alphabetic codes GH+GN and VD+YA respectively, started trials in early 1941. The first flight resulted in the collapse of the nose gear, but the millipede wheels saved the aircraft from damage. A further ten pre-production machines were built, and were used operationally as the Ar 232A-0 while awaiting production versions. In general, the Ar 232 completely outperformed the Ju 52/3m. It carried roughly double the load over longer distances, operated from shorter runways and rougher fields if need be, and cruised about 70 km/h (44 mph) faster.
The Ar 232B program ran at the same time. With four 895 kW (1,200 hp) Bramo 323s, power increased from 2,386 kW (3,200 hp) to 3,580 kW (4,800 hp), solving the A model's problem of having little excess power in case of engine failure. This change also required the wing to be extended slightly, the span increasing just over 3 m (9 ft 10 in) in total. The extra weight of the engines also moved the center of gravity forward, which was offset by extending the cargo area rearward another meter.
Two four-engined prototypes were ordered, the V3 and V4, and V3 first flew in May 1942. A further 10 were then ordered as the Ar 232B-0, and were used widely in an operational role. However, this was the only order for the design, as the Luftwaffe gave transport aircraft production a very low priority. Many of those produced were used by Arado to transport aircraft parts between its factories, and did not see front-line service.
Plans were also made to replace the outer wing sections and control surfaces with wooden versions to conserve aluminium. Originally to be known as the Ar 232C, the design dragged on and was later renamed the Ar 432. Plans were finally put into place to start production in October 1945, but the war ended without even a prototype being produced. Two even larger planned versions, the Ar 532 and the Ar 632, would have almost doubled the wingspan to 60 m (196 ft 10 in) and added another two engines.
Two of the B-0s were captured by British forces at the end of the war. After test flights by Eric "Winkle" Brown, who gave the design excellent marks, they were used by the Royal Air Force on flights between England and Germany after the war.
Arado Ar 232
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Ar 232[/TH]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Arado Ar 232 B-0[/TD]
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[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Transport[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Arado Flugzeugwerke[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]June 1941[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1943[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Retired[/TH]
[TD]1945[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Luftwaffe[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]~20[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The Arado Ar 232 Tausendfόίler (German: "Millipede"), sometimes also called Tatzelwurm, was one of the first truly modern cargo aircraft,[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] designed and built in small numbers by the German firm Arado Flugzeugwerke during World War II. The design introduced, or brought together, almost all of the features now considered to be "standard" in modern cargo transport aircraft designs, including a box-like fuselage slung beneath a high wing; a rear loading ramp (that had first appeared on the December 1939-flown Junkers Ju 90 V5 fifth prototype four-engined transport via its Trapoklappe); a high tail for easy access to the hold; and various features for operating from rough fields. Although the Luftwaffe was interested in replacing or supplementing its fleet of outdated Junkers Ju 52/3m transports, it had an abundance of types in production at the time and did not purchase large numbers of the Ar 232.
- 1 Design
- 2 Development
- 3 Variants
- 4 Specifications (Ar 232B)
- 5 See also
- 6 References
- 7 External links
Design[edit]
The Ar 232 design resulted from a tender offered by the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (German Air Ministry, RLM) in late 1939 for a replacement for the Ju 52/3m transport. Both Arado and Henschel were asked for rear-loading designs powered by two 1,193 kW (1,600 hp) BMW 801A/B radial engines, which was just entering prototype production and not currently used on any front-line designs. The Arado design beat out Henschel's after an examination of the plans, and an order for three prototypes was placed in 1940.
Wilhelm van Nes led the design of the Ar 232. He began at the cargo area, with a bay directly behind the "stepless cockpit" that was 6.6 m (21 ft 7Ύ in) long, 2.3 m (7 ft 6½ in) wide and 2.0 m (6 ft 6Ύ in) high. Typical designs of the era would use a side-mounted door for access, but the Ar 232 used hydraulically powered clamshell-doors on the rear of the bay with a ramp to allow cargo to be rolled into the hold. The tail control surfaces were mounted on the end of a long boom to keep the area behind the doors clear so trucks could drive right up to the ramp, much like the 1944-era American Fairchild C-82 Packet of a differing twin boom fuselage configuration. The high-set tail on its "pod-and-boom" configuration fuselage allowed the Ar 232 to be loaded and unloaded faster than other designs.
For short-field performance, the Ar 232 incorporated Arado's own "travelling flap" design for the entire rear surface of the wing. Even loaded to 16,000 kg (35,270 lb), it could take-off in 200 m (656 ft). This distance could be further reduced by using rocket assist (RATO) for take-off, and either parachutes or reverse RATO for landing.
The most noticeable feature of the Ar 232 was the landing gear. Normal operations from prepared runways used a tricycle gear, but the struts could "break", or kneel, after landing to place the fuselage closer to the ground and thereby reduce the ramp angle. An additional set of ten or eleven smaller, non-retractable twinned wheels per side supported the aircraft once the main landing gear's lever-action lower oleo-strut suspended arm - carrying the main gear's wheel/tire unit - was "broken", or could be used for additional support when landing on soft or rough airfields. The aircraft was intended to be capable of taxiing at low speeds on its row of small wheels, thus being able to negotiate small obstacles such as ditches up to 1.5 m (5 ft) in width. The appearance of the row of small wheels led to the nickname "millipede". In flight, the main legs fully retracted into the engine nacelles, while the fixed support wheels remained exposed and the nose wheel only semi-retracted.
Normally operated by a crew of four, the pilot was the only member without two roles. The navigator operated a 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun in the nose, the radio operator a 20 mm MG 151 cannon in a rotating turret on the roof, and the loadmaster a 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun firing rearward from the extreme rear of the cargo bay above the cargo doors.
Development[edit]
Even before the prototypes were complete in 1941, the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 project had been earmarked to use the BMW 801A/B, and was proving to be a capable design. Production of the BMW 801 was insufficient to supply this new demand, and the Ar 232 was forced to use another engine. Eventually, the BMW Bramo 323 from the Junkers Ju 352 was selected instead, as it was already in production and could meet requirements if the Ar 232 really did replace the Ju 52/3m in service. The prototypes were far enough along that switching engines would have seriously delayed the program, so the first two were to be completed as the Ar 232A, and the third and a newly ordered fourth as the Ar 232B. The third and fourth prototypes (and all production aircraft) used four engines (in place of the two specified in the RLM specification) in order to provide the desired performance.
An Ar 232A-0 in 1945
The first two prototypes, bearing the Stammkennzeichen alphabetic codes GH+GN and VD+YA respectively, started trials in early 1941. The first flight resulted in the collapse of the nose gear, but the millipede wheels saved the aircraft from damage. A further ten pre-production machines were built, and were used operationally as the Ar 232A-0 while awaiting production versions. In general, the Ar 232 completely outperformed the Ju 52/3m. It carried roughly double the load over longer distances, operated from shorter runways and rougher fields if need be, and cruised about 70 km/h (44 mph) faster.
The Ar 232B program ran at the same time. With four 895 kW (1,200 hp) Bramo 323s, power increased from 2,386 kW (3,200 hp) to 3,580 kW (4,800 hp), solving the A model's problem of having little excess power in case of engine failure. This change also required the wing to be extended slightly, the span increasing just over 3 m (9 ft 10 in) in total. The extra weight of the engines also moved the center of gravity forward, which was offset by extending the cargo area rearward another meter.
Two four-engined prototypes were ordered, the V3 and V4, and V3 first flew in May 1942. A further 10 were then ordered as the Ar 232B-0, and were used widely in an operational role. However, this was the only order for the design, as the Luftwaffe gave transport aircraft production a very low priority. Many of those produced were used by Arado to transport aircraft parts between its factories, and did not see front-line service.
Plans were also made to replace the outer wing sections and control surfaces with wooden versions to conserve aluminium. Originally to be known as the Ar 232C, the design dragged on and was later renamed the Ar 432. Plans were finally put into place to start production in October 1945, but the war ended without even a prototype being produced. Two even larger planned versions, the Ar 532 and the Ar 632, would have almost doubled the wingspan to 60 m (196 ft 10 in) and added another two engines.
Two of the B-0s were captured by British forces at the end of the war. After test flights by Eric "Winkle" Brown, who gave the design excellent marks, they were used by the Royal Air Force on flights between England and Germany after the war.
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06-18-2015, 09:47 AM
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06-18-2015, 10:56 AM
It was our version of Kamikaze. A pilot had to fly it close to the destination then bailing out just before it was flown into the ground. Unfortunately it had a habit of blowing up before the pilot got out. Joe Kennedy was a casualty.
As a side note, if Joe had of survived and gone on his daddy's planned political route maybe Lyndon Johnson's Great Society would never have come about. No entitlement generation. Something to think about.
As a side note, if Joe had of survived and gone on his daddy's planned political route maybe Lyndon Johnson's Great Society would never have come about. No entitlement generation. Something to think about.
06-18-2015, 11:01 AM
Originally Posted by Stuka Jon N 
What member from a famous family was killed arming a radio controled B-17 during WWII
[h=1]The Secret Drone Mission that Killed Joseph Kennedy Jr.[/h]
http://io9.com/5985733/the-secret-dr...eph-kennedy-jr
It's Joe Kennedy Jr.. but it wasn't a RC B-17 but a BQ-8 B-24 Drone
On August 12, 1944, Kennedy and Lieutenant Wilford John Willy took off in a converted B-24 Liberator (the drone versions were designated BQ-8) from Royal Air Force Station Fersfield, near Norwich. Their target was a massive underground military complex called the Fortress of Mimoyecques that had the potential to launch devastating attacks directly at London. Several minutes short of the planned bail out, an electrical fault in the Liberator caused the Torpex to detonate. In a thunderous instant, the plane and both men flying it simply ceased to exist.
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One question at a time, please. The rules are: The person who answers the current question, gets to ask the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.
One question at a time, please. The rules are: The person who answers the current question, gets to ask the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.
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The question about Joseph Kennedy. Jr.'s B-24 (which is what it was) was posted in 2010. Somebody must have gone to page 1, rather than this one, and assumed it was the current question. Easy mistake to make if you haven't been here before.
06-18-2015, 04:58 PM
Something is amiss with the way RCU jumps to the thread mentioned in the email... most of the time I have to go to the LAST command to get to what was in the email go figure. It also takes a long long time. Any others have that problem?
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I have noticed that also , when I try to open the thread from my e mail notification it would go to the 1st page. Now I don't bother and just delete the e mail and go to RCU Warbird page from my favorites bar.
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Pilotal is the winner
The Polikarpov I-16 was the world's first monoplane fighter with retractable landing gear. Designed in 1933, It fought in the Spanish Civil war, where some thought it was American made. Noone could beleive that Russia could design and build such an advanced fighter for its time. It also fought for the Chinese in 1937 and was Russia's most numerous fighter at the start of operation Barbarosa, Germany's invasion of Russia.
Pilotal you're up!!
The Polikarpov I-16 was the world's first monoplane fighter with retractable landing gear. Designed in 1933, It fought in the Spanish Civil war, where some thought it was American made. Noone could beleive that Russia could design and build such an advanced fighter for its time. It also fought for the Chinese in 1937 and was Russia's most numerous fighter at the start of operation Barbarosa, Germany's invasion of Russia.
Pilotal you're up!!