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Old 06-28-2015, 11:55 AM
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Sorry houndDog i didnt see your post. Not the cub.
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Originally Posted by psb667
Sorry houndDog i didnt see your post. Not the cub.
It was a viable guess at the time OH Well maybe the
Venerable CUB will be the correct answer to some ones quiz question some day.
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The BAKA Bomb had a two seat trainer with skids on the bottom.
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Not the baka bomb.
Clue#1one of these was shipped to japan from the us in 1939.
Clue#2.two seat single engine. Aircraft.
Clue#3. Originally equiped with a large radial engine. The japanese version was Powered by a inverted v8
Clue#4. Originally intended for observation roles. The japanese would be the first to arm this type of aircraft.
Clue#5 for some reason they are becoming very popular in europe these days.
Clue#6 the original unit that shipped to japan was destroyed shortly after delivery. The japanese prototype was essentially this aircraft rebuilt with a different motor.
Clue#7. The japanese used the aircraft they developed from this aircraft as anti sub aircraft omong other things.
Old 06-29-2015, 10:40 AM
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HoundDog said:
Yesterday 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by psb667
Sorry houndDog i didnt see your post. Not the cub.
It was a viable guess at the time OH Well maybe the
Venerable CUB will be the correct answer to some ones quiz question some day.
Remember ... Every one of these Things we fly Comes with a Number, When the R/C Gods call that Number, it's going in a Garbage Bag, No Sniveling Allowed.
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elmshoot said:
Yesterday 07:39 PM
The BAKA Bomb had a two seat trainer with skids on the bottom.
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Not the baka bomb.
Clue#1one of these was shipped to japan from the us in 1939.
Clue#2.two seat single engine. Aircraft.
Clue#3. Originally equiped with a large radial engine. The japanese version was Powered by a inverted v8
Clue#4. Originally intended for observation roles. The japanese would be the first to arm this type of aircraft.
Clue#5 for some reason they are becoming very popular in europe these days.
Clue#6 the original unit that shipped to japan was destroyed shortly after delivery. The japanese prototype was essentially this aircraft rebuilt with a different motor.
Clue#7. The japanese used the aircraft they developed from this aircraft as anti sub aircraft omong other things.
Clue#8. Capable of very short take offs and even shorter landings.
Old 06-29-2015, 12:30 PM
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it was an auto gyro aircraft like a Kellet.
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I know the Germans had an Autogyro they could tow behind a Sub to get a better chance of detecting shipping near by. Most likely the Japs had something similar.
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How about the Kayaba KA 1 / KA 2
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GOTTA Make Sal the winner,



Kayaba Ka-1

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[TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Ka-1[/TH]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Kayaba Ka-1[/TD]
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[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Autogyro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Kayaba Industry[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]26 May 1941[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Imperial Japanese Army Air Force[/TD]
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[TH]Produced[/TH]
[TD]1941-1945[/TD]
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[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]98[/TD]
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[TH]Developed from[/TH]
[TD]Kellett KD-1A[/TD]
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The Kayaba Ka-1 was a Japanese autogyro, seeing service during World War II.
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Design and development[edit]

The Imperial Japanese Army developed the Ka-1 autogyro for reconnaissance, artillery-spotting, and anti-submarine uses. The Ka-1 was based on an American design, the Kellett KD-1A, which had been imported to Japan in 1939, but which was damaged beyond repair shortly after arrival.[SUP][1][/SUP] The Kayaba Industry was then asked by the Army First to develop a similar machine, and the first prototype was flying on 26 May 1941.[SUP][2][/SUP] The craft was initially developed for use as an observation platform and for artillery spotting duties. The Japanese Army liked the craft's short (30m) take-off span, and its low maintenance requirements. The production began in 1941 and the first autogyros were assigned to artillery units for artillery spotting. These carried two crewmen: a pilot and a spotter. The prototype, Ka-1 was essentially the repaired Kellett KD-1A. The Ka-1 had a change of the engine to the 240 hp Argus As 10c. But only about 20 Ka-1 were made. The Ka-1 employed similar aspects to the Focke-Wulf Fw 61, which was first flown in 1936.[SUP][3][/SUP] The production of the remainder were all Ka-2. The Ka-2 returned to the same Jacobs L-4MA-7 engine as the Kellett KD-1. Total Ka-1 and Ka-2 production was erroneously stated as approximately 240 by.[SUP][4][/SUP] During the production, a shortage of critical components for rotor and engine resulted in severe delivery delays. A total of 98 Ka-1 and Ka-2 airframes were produced until end of war, of them 12 was destroyed by exposure before being delivered to army and about 30 never had an engine installed, leaving about 50 delivered to IJA and about 30 actually deployed.
Operational history[edit]

The repaired Kellett KD-1A first took off from Tamagawa Airfield in May 26, 1941. In the following army trials, performance was deemed excellent. Originally, it was planned to send Ka-1 to the artillery units in mainland China, but the change of the course of war have made these plans meaningless. Instead, few Ka-1 were sent to Philippines to perform duties of liaison aircraft as replacement of Kokusai Ki-76. The majority of Ka-1 and Ka-2 was pressed into service as anti-submarine patrol aircraft. Pilots training have started in July 1943 and first batch of 10 pilots have graduated flight school in February, 1944 followed by another batch of 40 pilots in September, 1944. Originally, Ka-1/Ka-2 was planned to deploy from 2D class cargo ships, but these ships turned out too cramped for operations, therefore Ka-1/Ka-2 unit was assigned to escort carrier Akitsu Maru from August 1944 to her sinking in November 1944. From 17 January 1945 ASW patrols have resumed from airstrip on Iki Island with maintenance base being Gannosu Airfield in Fukuoka prefecture. ASW patrols also started from in May, 1945 from Izuhara airfield on Tsushima Island. These missions helped to protect last operational Japanese sea lane between ports of Fukuoka and Pusan. Because USA carrier-based aircraft began to appear even in Tsushima Strait, the Ka-1/Ka-2 units were relocated to Nanao base on Noto Peninsula in June, 1945 and operated there until end of war. The Ka-1/Ka-2 did not directly sink any submarine during the war, but were regarded as well-performing for their help in issuing submarine warnings.
Specifications (Ka-1)[edit]

Data from Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War[SUP][4][/SUP]
General characteristics
  • Crew: 1-2
  • Capacity: 1 passenger
  • Length: 6.68 m (21 ft 7 in)
  • Rotor diameter: 12.2 m (39 ft 6 in)
  • Height: 3.1 m (10 ft)
  • Disc area: 117 m² (10.9 ft²)
  • Empty weight: 775 kg (1,709 lb)
  • Loaded weight: 1,086 kg (2,392 lb)
  • Useful load: 120 kg (264 lb)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 1,170 kg (2,574 lb)
  • Powerplant: 1 × Argus As 10c air-cooled inverted V8 engine, 180 kW (241 hp)
Performance
Armament

  • 1x 60 kg (132 lb) depth charges[SUP][5][/SUP]


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Old 07-02-2015, 04:57 AM
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psb667; you have posted nothing for almost three days. Unless we hear from you today, we will have to move on. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-02-2015, 08:34 PM
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All;

We have apparently lost psb667, at least for a bit. Hopefully, he will rejoin quickly. In the interim, we have to move on. Since uncljoe has what appears to be the best referenced, and apparently correct, answer, I have asked him to ask the next question. Over to you, uncljoe. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-03-2015, 07:09 AM
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Give me a few hours and I'll have one up
Semper Fi
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:45 AM
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1. This aircraft first flew in 1937
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1.This aircraft first flew in 1937 *** another reference show 1938
Friday,s bonus clue...2 This countrys first monoplane

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[h=1]Rogožarski SIM-VI[/h]
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Hydro Junkie Not the SIM-Vi
1.This aircraft first flew in 1937 *** another reference show 1938

2.This countrys first monoplane all metal
3. Crew of two
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Hydro junkie you selection caused me to look up the SIM-VI



[h=1]Rogožarski SIM-XIV-H[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


[TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]Rogožarski SIM-XIV-H[/TH]
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[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Reconnaissance floatplane[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]National origin[/TH]
[TD]Yugoslavia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Prva Srpska Fabrika Aeroplana Zivojin Rogožarski A.D.,[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Designer[/TH]
[TD]Sima Milutinović[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]8 February 1938[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]1939[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Retired[/TH]
[TD]1942[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Status[/TH]
[TD]inactive[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Yugoslav Royal Navy[/TD]
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[TH]Produced[/TH]
[TD]from 1939 to 1941[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]19[SUP][1][/SUP][/TD]
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[/TABLE]
The Rogožarski SIM-XIV-H (Serbian: Рогожарски СИМ-XIV-Х) was a 1930s Yugoslav coastal reconnaissance floatplane and light bomber, twin-engined, with three crew members. It was designed and built at the Rogožarski factory in Belgrade.[SUP][2][/SUP]

Argus As10 engine installed in Seaplanes Rogozarski SIM-XIV-H


Seaplanes Rogozarski SIM-XII-H (left) and SIM-XIV-H (right) (Kumbor 1938)

[h=2]Contents[/h] [hide]

[h=2]Design and development[edit][/h]In January 1937, the Yugoslav Navy Air Service issued a specification for a twin-engined coastal reconnaissance aircraft,[SUP][3][/SUP] to replace the Ikarus IO flying boat.
To meet this requirement, Rogozarski proposed the SIM-XIV-H, a twin-engined floatplane designed by Sima Milutinović, and this type was selected by the Yugoslav navy, with the first prototype making its maiden flight on 8 February 1938.[SUP][3][/SUP]
The SIM-XIV-H was a low winged monoplane of mixed wood and metal construction, with an oval section monocoque fuselage. The wing was braced to the fuselage by steel-tube struts, with the tail also braced. It had a glazed nose, with a gun turret armed with a single machine gun mounted above the nose. The pilot and radio operator/gunner sat in tandem under a long canopy, with the observer also armed with a single machine gun.[SUP][4][/SUP] The rear fuselage was fabric covered, while the moving tail surfaces were metal clad.The elleptical wing was of wooden construction,and was clad in plywood. It was powered by two 240 hp (179 kW) Argus As 10C air-cooled V8 engines driving fixed two-bladed propellers, also designed by engineer Sima Milutinović. Two Alclad floats made by the EDO Corporation were attached to the engine nacelles and fuselage.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]
The basic aircraft weapons were anti-submarine bombs, of which the plane could carry one 100 kg bomb or two 50 kg. For anti-personnel action the plane could carry 12 fragmentation bombs massing 12 kg each. Typically, the aircraft was armed with two machine guns on board: one placed in the nose to by operated by the observer and the other in the rear gunner's cockpit. Bombsights were made in Yugoslavia and the bombing of Viro in low flight also Brilet local sights.[SUP][7][/SUP]
Testing of the prototype was successful, with the aircraft demonstrating good handling, and the type was ordered into production. The first batch of six SIM-XIV-H, known as the Series O, differed from the prototype in having the turret removed from the nose and the tail modified. The second batch of six aircraft, the Series 1, had a cantilever wing, eliminating the bracing between the wing and the fuselage, and had 270 hp (201 kW) Argus As-10 engines driving metal two-pitch propellers.[SUP][8][/SUP]
A third batch of 12 aircraft was ordered in 1940, with 450 hp (336 kW) Argus As 410, but construction was interrupted by the German invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941. Plans for a landplane trainer adaptation of the SIM-XIV-H were also abandoned.[SUP][9][/SUP]
[h=2]Operational history[edit][/h]All the SIM-XIV-H and SIM XIVB-Hs were deployed to the naval bases at Divulje (near Split) and Kumbor (Kotor). Before Yugoslavia entered the war, they were used to carry out the duties for which they were designed, with intense training activity due to the approaching threat of war. In that period, three aircraft were destroyed, with 16 aircraft remaining in Service when the Germans invaded Yugoslavia
These aircraft were used in the April war in operations against the Germans and Italians along the Adriatic coast, carrying out reconnaissance and aiding mining operations. Five aircraft were destroyed in the fight against the attacking forces. Four aircraft attempted to escape to Greece, of which two were destroyed and two reached British bases in Egypt via Crete. These two aircraft were used for reconnaissance missions over the Mediterranean Seauntil one was lost and the other scrapped because of lack of spares. Italy seized a total of eight aircraft, a SIM-XIV-H and 7 SIM-XIVB-Hs. One specimen was immediately transferred to the Test Center at Vigna di Valle, where it showed better results than found in testing in Yugoslavia while the others were transferred to the aeronautical school at Orbetello, continuing in use for training and communications purposes until the end of 1942.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]




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Uncle joe got it. Sorry folks this is why i dont always play on this thread. Sometimes i can end up out of internet or phone signal range for days at a time.
Old 07-04-2015, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by psb667
Uncle joe got it. Sorry folks this is why i dont always play on this thread. Sometimes i can end up out of internet or phone signal range for days at a time.
Don't worry about it, psb667; stuff happens to all of us now and then. I hope you understand why we had to move on. Stay in the game; we enjoy your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-04-2015, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by uncljoe

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This aircraft first flew in 1937 *** another reference show 1938
2.This countrys first monoplane all metal
3. Crew of two
Uncle Joe,
Is this the plane you are looking for in your quiz???

Fiat G.50


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RCKen... No thats not it but the next clue should give it away

1.This aircraft first flew in 1937 *** another reference show 1938
2.This countrys first monoplane all metal
3. Crew of two
4.This aircraft sank the first warship in WW2

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Blackburn Skua?
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BINGO ! We have a winner ! Steve your up.


[h=1]Blackburn Skua[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


[TABLE="class: infobox, width: 315"]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: center"]B-24 Skua[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Skua L2923, Red-1 of 803 NAS. One of 16 Skuas from RNAS Hatston to attack and sink the Königsberg in Bergen on 10 April 1940. This aircraft spun out on the return flight and crashed, the only aircraft lost on that day.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TD]Dive bomber / Fighter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]Blackburn Aircraft[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Designer[/TH]
[TD]G.E.Petty[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]First flight[/TH]
[TD]9 February 1937[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Introduction[/TH]
[TD]November 1938[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Retired[/TH]
[TD]1941 (withdrawn from front line)
March 1945 (withdrawn from other duties)[SUP][1][/SUP][/TD]
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[TH]Primary user[/TH]
[TD]Fleet Air Arm[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Number built[/TH]
[TD]192[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH]Variants[/TH]
[TD]Blackburn Roc[/TD]
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[/TABLE]
The Blackburn B-24 Skua was a carrier-based low-wing, two-seater, single-radial engine aircraft operated by the British Fleet Air Arm which combined the functions of a dive bomber and fighter. It was designed in the mid-1930s and saw service in the early part of the Second World War. It took its name from the seabird.
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[h=2]Design and development[edit][/h]Built to Air Ministry specification O.27/34, it was a low-wing monoplane of all-metal (duralumin) construction, with a retractable undercarriage and enclosed cockpit. It was the Fleet Air Arm's first service monoplane and was a radical departure for a force that was primarily equipped with open-cockpit biplanes such as the Fairey Swordfish.
Performance for the fighter role was compromised by the aircraft's bulk and lack of power, resulting in a relatively low speed; the contemporary marks of Messerschmitt Bf 109[SUP][N 1][/SUP]made 290 mph (467 km/h) at sea level over the Skua's 225 mph (362 km/h). However, the aircraft's armament of four fixed, forward-firing 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns in the wings and a single flexible, rearward-firing .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers K machine gun was effective for the time. For dive-bombing role, a 250 lb (110 kg) or 500 lb (230 kg) bomb was carried on a special swinging crutch under the fuselage, which enabled the bomb to clear the propeller arc on release. Four 40 lb (20 kg) bombs or eight 20 lb (9 kg) Cooper bombs could also be carried in racks under each wing. It had large Zap-type air brakes/flaps, which helped in dive bombing and landing on aircraft carriers at sea.
Two prototypes were ordered from Blackburn in 1935 and the first serial number K5178 first flew on 9 February 1937. Both prototypes were powered by the Bristol Mercury XIIradial engine but following trials when a production order for 190 aircraft was placed, they were to have Bristol Perseus XII engines.
[h=2]Operational history[edit][/h]

Production Skua Mk.II, L2928 "S" of 759 Squadron. This aircraft also served with 801 Squadron in the Norwegian Campaign and flying from RAF Detling, was present at Dunkirk.


Skuas of 800 Naval Air Squadron on the flight deck of HMS Ark Royal


A Skua landing on Ark Royal

The first unit to get the Skua, was 800 Naval Air Squadron in late 1938 at Worth Down, by November the squadron had embarked on HMS Ark Royal and was followed in 1939 by 801 and 803 squadrons.
With the start of the Second World War, Skuas were soon in action and on 14 September three were launched from Ark Royal, to go to the aid of the SS Fanad Head which had been attacked by a U-boat. When they arrived, the Fanad Head was being shelled by U-30 and all three dived to attack the submarine, which quickly dived to safety. Two of the Skuas were damaged by the blasts and had to ditch. U-30 returned to Germany with the crews of the two ditched Skuas, who became the first naval airmen to be prisoners of war in the conflict.
Skuas were credited with the first confirmed "kill" by British aircraft during the Second World War: a Dornier Do 18 flying boat was shot down over the North Sea on 26 September 1939, by three Skuas of 803 Naval Air Squadron, flying from the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal. An earlier victory by a Fairey Battle on 20 September 1939 over Aachen, was later confirmed by French sources.[SUP][2][/SUP] On 10 April 1940, 16 Skuas of 800 and 803 NAS led by Lieutenant Commander William Lucy, flying from RNAS Hatston in the Orkney Islands, sank the German cruiser Königsbergin Bergen harbour during Operation Weserübung, the German invasion of Norway.[SUP][3][/SUP]
This was the first major warship ever to be sunk by dive bombing, indeed the first major warship ever sunk in war by air attack.[SUP][4][/SUP] Lucy later also became a fighter ace flying the Skua. These two mostly Skua squadrons, suffered heavy losses during an attempt to bomb the German battleship Scharnhorst at Trondheim on 13 June 1940; of 15 aircraft in the raid, eight were shot down and the crews killed or taken prisoner. Among the latter were both squadron commanders, Captain R. T. Partridge (RM) and Lieutenant Commander John Casson (RN).[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]
Although it fared reasonably well against Axis bombers over Norway and in the Mediterranean, the Skua suffered heavy losses when confronted with modern fighters - particularly the Bf 109 - and they were withdrawn from front line service in 1941. The aircraft was largely replaced by another two-seater, the Fairey Fulmar, which doubled the Skua's forward armament and had a speed advantage of 50 mph (80 km/h). A number of aircraft were converted to target tugs, following withdrawal from front line service. Others were completed as target tugs from the factory and used by the RAF and Fleet Air Arm in this role ("Fleet Requirements").[SUP][1][/SUP] They were also used as advanced trainers for the Fleet Air Arm. The last Skua in service was struck off charge in March 1945.[SUP][7][/SUP]
The Roc was a very similar aircraft developed as a "turret fighter", with all its armament in a dorsal turret. The Roc was expected to serve alongside the Skua. Rocs were attached to Skua squadrons, to protect the fleet anchorage at Scapa Flow in early 1940 and briefly from HMS Glorious and Ark Royal during the Norwegian Campaign. Skuas and Rocs flew fighter sweeps and bombing sorties over the English Channel during Operation Dynamo and Operation Ariel, the evacuations of Allied forces from Dunkirk and other French ports.[SUP][8][/SUP]




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Lucky guess, eh? I'll have one up by morning.
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The A/C I'm thinking of was first flown in 1941.


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