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Old 11-22-2015, 02:53 PM
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Airspeed Horsa glider.
Old 11-22-2015, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Airspeed Horsa glider.
That's the one! The aircraft referred to in clue 6 is the Slingsby Hengist, a smaller glider never used operationally. Horsas, being made largely of wood, were a natural for furniture manufacturers. How Austin Motors, which made cars, got into the glider business I don't know.

My favorite glider story (source now forgotten, alas) is about American fighter pilots in Europe who sometimes used their downtime taking instruction in glider flying. They were, I was told, careful never to finish the course, lest they have to fly one in combat. Makes a good story, and may even be true.

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Old 11-22-2015, 07:03 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.
Old 11-23-2015, 02:33 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.
Old 11-23-2015, 06:57 PM
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I met him as a Ensign back in 1976 shortly after I was commissioned in the Navy. He was a rear Gunner in an SBD at the battle of Midway they called him Chief Pappy. He got 5 in one dive bombing run at Midway.
Sorry I don't remember his name I guess I could google his name, more importantly I shook his hand.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:46 PM
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Elmshoot: You've got the right idea, but wrong service branch and wrong airplane.
Old 11-23-2015, 07:46 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.
Old 11-24-2015, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

Question, rcguy59: Is clue (3) accurate? If I recall correctly, he scored more than 7 victories total. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-24-2015, 11:41 AM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

Sorry about clue #3. I was thinking only of his epic mission, not his total, as the question implied. My mistake.
Old 11-24-2015, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

Sorry about clue #3. I was thinking only of his epic mission, not his total, as the question implied. My mistake.
Okay.... that was cool. Gotta hand it to you on that one, rcguy59. Neat. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-24-2015, 01:26 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.
Old 11-24-2015, 08:23 PM
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Sounds like a B-17 or B-24 waist gunner or B-17 bombardier/nose gunner to me. Those were the only locations that had a single .50, the rest had twins. Of course, some of the medium bombers had single nose and waist guns as well but I don't see one of them surviving long enough in that much of a "target rich environment" to have a single gunner get 7 in one mission

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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.
Old 11-25-2015, 02:04 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.

12. When he tried to enlist just after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected by some of the services for being too tall. (6' 6")
Old 11-25-2015, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Sounds like a B-17 or B-24 waist gunner or B-17 bombardier/nose gunner to me. Those were the only locations that had a single .50, the rest had twins. Of course, some of the medium bombers had single nose and waist guns as well but I don't see one of them surviving long enough in that much of a "target rich environment" to have a single gunner get 7 in one mission
So; who was he? It looks as though rcguy59 has you guys stymied, at least for the present. I can't believe you're going to let that go on for very long, though. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-26-2015, 01:55 AM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.

12. When he tried to enlist just after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected by some of the services for being too tall. (6' 6")

13. He was attached to the U.S. Fifteenth Air Force.

14. The fateful mission occurred over Italy.
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.

12. When he tried to enlist just after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected by some of the services for being too tall. (6' 6")

13. He was attached to the U.S. Fifteenth Air Force.

14. The fateful mission occurred over Italy.

15. His Bomb Group won a Presidential Unit Citation on the same mission.

16. 14 months later, he was granted a direct commission as a second lieutenant.

17. In addition to his Distinguished Service Cross, he also earned a Distinguished Flying Cross, possibly for the two additional enemy fighters he shot
down. He also held the Order of the Purple Heart, twenty Air Medals, a Presidential Unit Citation with two oak leaf clusters, the Good Conduct Medal
and the European, African, Middle East Service Medal.
Old 11-28-2015, 02:32 PM
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Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.

12. When he tried to enlist just after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected by some of the services for being too tall. (6' 6")

13. He was attached to the U.S. Fifteenth Air Force.

14. The fateful mission occurred over Italy.

15. His Bomb Group won a Presidential Unit Citation on the same mission.

16. 14 months later, he was granted a direct commission as a second lieutenant.

17. In addition to his Distinguished Service Cross, he also earned a Distinguished Flying Cross, possibly for the two additional enemy fighters he shot
down. He also held the Order of the Purple Heart, twenty Air Medals, a Presidential Unit Citation with two oak leaf clusters, the Good Conduct Medal
and the European, African, Middle East Service Medal.

Benjamin Franklin Warmer III.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Big...e.-a0108551526
Old 11-28-2015, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Looking for the name of an Ace.

1. His name does not appear on the official list of Aces.

2. He was not a pilot.

3. He scored 7 air-to-air confirmed kills.

4. He scored all 7 kills in one mission.

5. All of his victims were German.

6. His total score WAS 9 kills. (Thanks, Ernie P.)

7. His name was not Warner.

8. He scored those kills firing only one gun.

9. He was American.

10. His "7 in one mission" occurred in 1943.

11. He survived a 50-mission tour and was sent home.

12. When he tried to enlist just after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected by some of the services for being too tall. (6' 6")

13. He was attached to the U.S. Fifteenth Air Force.

14. The fateful mission occurred over Italy.

15. His Bomb Group won a Presidential Unit Citation on the same mission.

16. 14 months later, he was granted a direct commission as a second lieutenant.

17. In addition to his Distinguished Service Cross, he also earned a Distinguished Flying Cross, possibly for the two additional enemy fighters he shot
down. He also held the Order of the Purple Heart, twenty Air Medals, a Presidential Unit Citation with two oak leaf clusters, the Good Conduct Medal
and the European, African, Middle East Service Medal.

Benjamin Franklin Warmer III.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Big...e.-a0108551526
Um.... Hey, rcguy59.... Are you suggesting the answer is Benjamin Franklin Warmer III? Or was that a slip? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-28-2015, 10:17 PM
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No slip. Wanted to get this thread moving again.
Old 11-29-2015, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
No slip. Wanted to get this thread moving again.
Okay, guys.... Any one willing to take the lead? As you can see, rcguy59 has provided the answer, since he wasn't getting any real guesses. Do we still have enough participants and enthusiasts left to keep this going thread ? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-29-2015, 11:09 AM
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I'm still here watching every clue. Just have been stumped by the last few quizzes that have come down the pike!!!

Ken
Old 11-30-2015, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
No slip. Wanted to get this thread moving again.

Seeing no other interested parties willing to take the lead, I'll do so. But I'm really wondering how many of us are left. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
Old 11-30-2015, 03:19 PM
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Just FYI, I've been lurking on this thread for a few years. I haven't participated mainly because (1) most of my guesses would have been wrong; and (2) I don't know if I could come up with any questions of the caliber that you guys have been providing. This all goes to say that I'm learning an awful lot here, and enjoy reading this thread an awful lot.

Thanks, and keep it going....

Bob
Old 11-30-2015, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N1EDM
Just FYI, I've been lurking on this thread for a few years. I haven't participated mainly because (1) most of my guesses would have been wrong; and (2) I don't know if I could come up with any questions of the caliber that you guys have been providing. This all goes to say that I'm learning an awful lot here, and enjoy reading this thread an awful lot.

Thanks, and keep it going....

Bob

Bob; glad to know you're lurking around. As to coming up with a question, that's not difficult. When you read something that makes you think "I didn't know that", you have a subject matter. To me, the only tricky part is forming the question and clues. It's hard not to give everything away right off the bat. So, you have to come up with a list of clues and kind of rank them in order from obscure to obvious. Not too hard. And, if you put yourself to work trying to figure out an answer to someone's question, you're bound to come across something interesting to form a question. Stay around and enjoy things and participate as you like. Thanks; Ernie P.


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