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Old 11-30-2015, 11:47 PM
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Focke Wulf Fw-190 to replace Bf-109 perhaps?.

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Old 12-01-2015, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jescardin
Focke Wulf Fw-190 to replace Bf-109 perhaps?.

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A good guess, but not the aircraft for which I am looking. Perhaps this next clue will help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
Old 12-01-2015, 09:11 AM
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ME109 replacing the TA-108?
Old 12-01-2015, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
ME109 replacing the TA-108?

Not correct, Hydro Junkie; but here's an extra clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

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  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
Old 12-01-2015, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
ME109 replacing the TA-108?

Hey... wait a sec... What was the TA-108? Me-108 maybe? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 12-01-2015, 11:03 AM
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Okay, maybe the BF-108?
Getting back to the question, the F8F Bearcat to replace the F6F Hellcat?
Old 12-01-2015, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
Seeing no other interested parties willing to take the lead, I'll do so. But I'm really wondering how many of us are left. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
Like another member indicated, I'm sure there are lot's of folks who have lurked here that haven't participated for a number of reasons, but enjoy the thread and the information presented. I know I've discussed it with some of the members of my clubs (yes, to act as my lifeline). Thanks for continuing it. My guess out of left field, Nakajima Ki-84.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:47 PM
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Ernie P.,

As one of Ray Steven's song says "It's me again Margaret, he he....". I still Lurk around learning all kinds of things about war aircraft and related. I just haven't be doing things with airplanes much lately, other things have been taking up my time. Still a member here and subscribed to a number of threads, still belong to the AMA and the American Waco Club. Keep it up.

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Old 12-01-2015, 10:07 PM
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He-100?

I've been participating in this thread since it's beginning...it must be one of RCU's longest living threads isn't it?

Just about every day, I check it out....RCGuy 59's quiz was a real tough one...a great one...I didn't have a clue...

This place just wouldn't feel the same without this quiz thread...and like just about everything in life, it has it's ups and downs, or busy periods and slow periods...(cyclic?)
Old 12-02-2015, 10:21 AM
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No correct answers thus far, although several people have the right idea. Nice to see so many people logging in, if only to say they're paying attention. Okay; back to the question. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
  4. It was to have a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet.
Old 12-02-2015, 11:11 AM
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First plane that comes to mind here with that speed and altitude capabilities was the F4U Corsair. It beat the Mustang B/C and T-bolt into service as well as replaced the Wildcat in Marine service in late 1942/early 1943
Old 12-02-2015, 02:14 PM
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The P-38 Lightning ?
Old 12-02-2015, 06:04 PM
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A couple of really good guesses, though none correct. How about a new clue? How about a dozen of them? Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
  4. It was to have a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet.
  5. And, it was to carry a total of 12 machine guns.
Old 12-02-2015, 06:28 PM
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Hawker Typhoon?
Old 12-02-2015, 07:01 PM
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P-61Black Widow
Old 12-02-2015, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
P-61Black Widow
I thought about that one too, but I think the top speed on that was less than 350 mph.
Old 12-03-2015, 06:48 AM
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No correct answer yet; although some people are nibbling around the edges. This should really help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
  4. It was to have a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet.
  5. And, it was to carry a total of 12 machine guns.
  6. There were actually two parallel development paths.
Old 12-03-2015, 10:43 AM
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Afternoon clue. Yeah, Hydro Junkie; the F6F and F8F (Hellcat and Bearcat) would be an excellent comparison to this effort. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
  4. It was to have a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet.
  5. And, it was to carry a total of 12 machine guns.
  6. There were actually two parallel development paths.
  7. Both were designed and pursued by the company which produced the original aircraft. Sort of like the Fw-190 and Ta-152.
Old 12-03-2015, 11:10 AM
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Tornado and Typhoon, to replace Hurricane.
Old 12-03-2015, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Tornado and Typhoon, to replace Hurricane.

Well.... I guess that would do it, then. Congrats, rcguy59; great job. Please lead on, Macduff. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
  1. This fighter was originally intended as a replacement for a then new fighter, just entering active service.
  2. The replacement aircraft being developed, to replace the brand new aircraft just coming into service, was given some pretty demanding requirements for the time.
  3. It was to fly at a maximum speed of 400 MPH.
  4. It was to have a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet.
  5. And, it was to carry a total of 12 machine guns.
  6. There were actually two parallel development paths.
  7. Both were designed and pursued by the company which produced the original aircraft. Sort of like the Fw-190 and Ta-152.
  8. A single airframe, but two separate engines, were being considered. The aircraft differed only as necessary to accommodate the different engines.
  9. One engine was by a renowned engine manufacturer. The other maybe not so much.
  10. Sure enough the, theoretically at least, favored engine didn’t pan out.
  11. And, the prototype utilizing that engine was abandoned.

Answer: The Hawker Tornado.

The Hawker Tornado was a British single-seat fighter aircraft design of World War II for the Royal Air Force as a replacement for the Hawker Hurricane. The planned production of Tornados was cancelled after the engine it was designed to use—the Rolls-Royce Vulture—proved unreliable in service. A parallel airframe with the Napier Sabre continued into production as the Hawker Typhoon.

Shortly after the Hawker Hurricane entered service, Hawker began work on its eventual successor. Two alternative projects were undertaken: the Type N (for Napier), with a Napier Sabre engine, and the Type R (for Rolls-Royce), equipped with a Rolls-Royce Vulture power-plant. Hawker presented an early draft of their ideas to the Air Ministry who advised them that a specification was in the offing for such a fighter. The specification was released by the Ministry as Specification F.18/37 after further prompting from Hawker. The specification called for a single-seat fighter armed with twelve 0.303 in (7.7 mm) machine-guns, a maximum speed of 400 mph (644 km/h) at 15,000 ft (4,600 m) and a service ceiling of 35,000 ft (10,700 m) were required. Two prototypes of both the Type N and R were ordered on 3 March 1938.

In order to avoid upsetting the Hurricane lines, production was sub-contracted to Avro (another company in the Hawker group) in Manchester and Cunliffe-Owen Aircraft in Eastleigh, with orders for 1,760 and 200 respectively being placed in 1939. However, only one of these aircraft, from Avro, was ever built and flown, this being R7936. Shortly after its first flight at Woodford, on 29 August 1941, the Vulture programme was abandoned, followed closely by the cancellation of the Tornado order. At that time four aircraft were at various stages of production at the Avro plant at Yeadon, West Yorkshire.

The Vulture was effectively cancelled by Rolls-Royce in July 1941, partly due to the problems experienced in its use on the Avro Manchester, but mostly to free up resources for Merlin development and production. The Rolls-Royce Merlin was also starting to deliver the same power levels. However, the Vulture engine installation in the Tornado was relatively trouble free and the aircraft itself had fewer problems in flight than its Sabre-engined counterpart. The third prototype (HG641), the only other Tornado to fly, was flown on 23 October 1941, powered by a Bristol Centaurus CE.4S sleeve valve radial engine. This Tornado was built from two incomplete production airframes (R7937 and R7938) and was a test-bed for a number of Centaurus engine/propeller combinations and was the progenitor of the Hawker Tempest II.
Old 12-03-2015, 09:09 PM
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The Sabre has often been characterized as a "sick" engine, but let's not forget that it was the ONLY 3000+hp engine to see service before war's end. It was also the only successful 24-cylinder engine of the war years. It didn't see much post-war service though, as it wasn't as reliable as the Griffon, Merlin and Centaurus and was always a maintenance headache. The Vulture, on the other hand, was an unmitigated disaster that Rolls Royce would rather forget. I'll see if I can come up with a good question.
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Looking for the name of a device used in some, but not all, warbirds.

1. It was invented in Europe prior to WW1.

2. It saw limited use in WW1.

3. While it has been used in other applications, it's use in aviation has been 99% American.

4. The higher it goes, the better it works.
Old 12-03-2015, 10:39 PM
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Altimeter?
Old 12-03-2015, 11:01 PM
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Nope.

Looking for the name of a device used in some, but not all, warbirds.

1. It was invented in Europe prior to WW1.

2. It saw limited use in WW1.

3. While it has been used in other applications, it's use in aviation has been 99% American.

4. The higher it goes, the better it works.

5. Every U.S. heavy bomber in WW2 used it, but not every fighter did.
Old 12-04-2015, 05:29 AM
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How about gyroscopic stabilization, as in the Sperry autopilot and the "second station" systems that gave the bombardier gyro-assisted control of the aircraft during bomb runs?


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