Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz
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Ace: The Story of Lt. Col. Ace Cozzalio (Lighthorse Publishing Co., 292 pp., $15.95, paper; $8.99, Kindle).
Looks like it's time for another clue.
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
Good Luck
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anyone know if you can get this or any other War titles on CD? Love to listen to them while driving ... That way i don't fall asleep. LOL Does a Kindle Read it to U?
Ace: The Story of Lt. Col. Ace Cozzalio (Lighthorse Publishing Co., 292 pp., $15.95, paper; $8.99, Kindle).
Ace: The Story of Lt. Col. Ace Cozzalio (Lighthorse Publishing Co., 292 pp., $15.95, paper; $8.99, Kindle).
My understanding (never actually used it) is the Kindle Fire has a reader option. Better check it out closely, though. I have a Fire; but normally use my Kindle DX. Thanks; Ernie P.
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I have no problem being the Crash Test Dummy and trying the obvious answer. How about the Me 262 (First operational jet aircraft) and the Me 163 (First and last operational rocket fighter). Thanks; Ernie P.
No on both. You were, however, in the ballpark with one of them. Time for the next clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
Good Luck
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 02-04-2016 at 09:41 PM.
Time for the next clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
Good Luck
And, once again, it's time for the next clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
Good Luck
And, once again, no guesses. It's time for the next clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
Good Luck
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 02-07-2016 at 02:53 PM.
Time for a post Superbowl clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
Good Luck
Okay guys, I'm running out of clues on this one. Here's the next clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
Good Luck
And, one more time:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
Good Luck
And another clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
Good Luck
And, again, another clue:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
Good Luck
Okay guys, within the next two cues, someone should get this one so here's the first:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
Good Luck
One last clue and I'll give you all the answer:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it
Good Luck
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board.
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it
Good Luck
My Feedback: (49)
EAA FIGHT ON ATC PRIVATIZATION
MOVES TO FULL HOUSE
Your help needed soon on this bad deal for grassroots aviation
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Thursday night narrowly approved HR 4441, the Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act of 2016, sending it to the full House. As EAA has maintained since the notion of ATC privatization first emerged last summer, your organization is committed to fighting this legislation that would be ominous for grassroots aviation and a power grab by the nation's airlines.
EAA members will soon be asked to raise their voices to their elected representatives when Congress returns on Feb. 22 from a weeklong recess. Although the possibility of ATC privatization legislation had been anticipated for several months, it is only possible to directly react when specific legislation is introduced. That occurred last week. The contents of the bill were withheld by its sponsor, House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee chairman Bill Shuster (R-Pennsylvania), until just before the hearing and committee markup sessions that occurred this week. That left little opportunity for anyone to review or comment on the bill's contents. In the coming days, you'll find out exactly how YOU can make a difference in this debate.
"As one congressman said this week, this would be the biggest divestment of taxpayer property to private interests in world history, so why have the bill's authors been so secretive about its contents prior to introduction and now so determined to hurriedly ramrod it through Congress?" asked EAA CEO/chairman Jack Pelton. "ATC privatization will put the big squeeze on general aviation in a way that threatens the individual freedom of flight and hands control of America’s airspace to commercial and airline interests."
As we wrote in our statement for the record to a House hearing earlier this week, our opposition is due to several factors:
Jack Pelton, EAA CEO/Chairman
MOVES TO FULL HOUSE
Your help needed soon on this bad deal for grassroots aviation
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Thursday night narrowly approved HR 4441, the Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act of 2016, sending it to the full House. As EAA has maintained since the notion of ATC privatization first emerged last summer, your organization is committed to fighting this legislation that would be ominous for grassroots aviation and a power grab by the nation's airlines.
EAA members will soon be asked to raise their voices to their elected representatives when Congress returns on Feb. 22 from a weeklong recess. Although the possibility of ATC privatization legislation had been anticipated for several months, it is only possible to directly react when specific legislation is introduced. That occurred last week. The contents of the bill were withheld by its sponsor, House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee chairman Bill Shuster (R-Pennsylvania), until just before the hearing and committee markup sessions that occurred this week. That left little opportunity for anyone to review or comment on the bill's contents. In the coming days, you'll find out exactly how YOU can make a difference in this debate.
"As one congressman said this week, this would be the biggest divestment of taxpayer property to private interests in world history, so why have the bill's authors been so secretive about its contents prior to introduction and now so determined to hurriedly ramrod it through Congress?" asked EAA CEO/chairman Jack Pelton. "ATC privatization will put the big squeeze on general aviation in a way that threatens the individual freedom of flight and hands control of America’s airspace to commercial and airline interests."
As we wrote in our statement for the record to a House hearing earlier this week, our opposition is due to several factors:
- A privatized ATC system would take services away from federal oversight and place them in the hands of a board controlled by those with the greatest financial resources;
- Threats to access and services for general aviation and rural airports without commercial service;
- An ATC board weighted toward airlines and commercial aviation, creating conflicts of interest;
- Loss of FAA control over safety oversight, while creating a large parallel bureaucracy;
- Creation of a congressionally mandated monopoly managed by private interests;
- Unlimited civil and tort liability for a new ATC corporation, which could financially cripple such a system.
Jack Pelton, EAA CEO/Chairman
Nope, neither one. Neither of them saw combat in two conflicts. The P-38 was retired after VJ Day while the F-82 wasn't ready in time for WWII and barely finished the Korean War. I'll give a partial run-down of the clues and see if it helps:
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last one was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it
Let's see if that gives it away
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last one was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last"
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it
Let's see if that gives it away
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 02-12-2016 at 07:51 PM.
The only 2 aircraft I can think of that fit most of the clues are the De Havilland Mosquito and the AD-1 Skyraider.
I'm stumped as to what the "distinction" and "events" might be, except possibly being used to help prisoners escape from the enemy. The Mossie was involved in a number of pinpoint raids on Gestapo buildings to help prisoners escape, and the Spad was used in close air support to assist in recovering downed airmen in Viet Nam.
I'm stumped as to what the "distinction" and "events" might be, except possibly being used to help prisoners escape from the enemy. The Mossie was involved in a number of pinpoint raids on Gestapo buildings to help prisoners escape, and the Spad was used in close air support to assist in recovering downed airmen in Viet Nam.
Last edited by JohnnyS; 02-13-2016 at 09:57 AM.
You got the planes, but not the connection so you're up. To clarify things a bit:
What I found, is that in 1944, a Mosquito was the first prop driven fighter to dogfight a jet fighter, an ME-262 to be exact. Both planes survived the encounter though the Mosquito crash landed at it's Italian base afterwards due to the damage it suffered.
A Skyraider was the last prop driven plane to dogfight a jet fighter, a MIG-19. Unlike the Mosquito, the Skyraider actually shot down the faster and more maneuverable MIG. Shortly after, all remaining Skyraiders were transferred to the South Vietnamese Air Force
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second Dogfighting jet fighters
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform It was designed as a Torpedo/Bomber that could also dive bomb. It was never designed to dogfight
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last Mosquito was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines The Mosquito used twin Merlins, the Skyraider used a single Wright 3350 aircooled radial, the ME-262 used two Junkers turbojets the MIG engine is unknown
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles All used 20-30mm cannon, the Mosquito also carried machine guns
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last" WWII, Korea and Viet Nam
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it Both were designed during WWII though the Skyraider was too late to see combat. It did see combat in the ground support role in Korea and Viet Nam
and now, HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I found, is that in 1944, a Mosquito was the first prop driven fighter to dogfight a jet fighter, an ME-262 to be exact. Both planes survived the encounter though the Mosquito crash landed at it's Italian base afterwards due to the damage it suffered.
A Skyraider was the last prop driven plane to dogfight a jet fighter, a MIG-19. Unlike the Mosquito, the Skyraider actually shot down the faster and more maneuverable MIG. Shortly after, all remaining Skyraiders were transferred to the South Vietnamese Air Force
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second Dogfighting jet fighters
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform It was designed as a Torpedo/Bomber that could also dive bomb. It was never designed to dogfight
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last Mosquito was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines The Mosquito used twin Merlins, the Skyraider used a single Wright 3350 aircooled radial, the ME-262 used two Junkers turbojets the MIG engine is unknown
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles All used 20-30mm cannon, the Mosquito also carried machine guns
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last" WWII, Korea and Viet Nam
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it Both were designed during WWII though the Skyraider was too late to see combat. It did see combat in the ground support role in Korea and Viet Nam
and now, HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 02-13-2016 at 09:18 PM.
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The duration is 2208 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes and 28 seconds
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Alternative time units
2208 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes and 28 seconds can be converted to one of these units:
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You got the planes, but not the connection so you're up. To clarify things a bit:
What I found, is that in 1944, a Mosquito was the first prop driven fighter to dogfight a jet fighter, an ME-262 to be exact. Both planes survived the encounter though the Mosquito crash landed at it's Italian base afterwards due to the damage it suffered.
A Skyraider was the last prop driven plane to dogfight a jet fighter, a MIG-19. Unlike the Mosquito, the Skyraider actually shot down the faster and more maneuverable MIG. Shortly after, all remaining Skyraiders were transferred to the South Vietnamese Air Force
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second Dogfighting jet fighters
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform It was designed as a Torpedo/Bomber that could also dive bomb. It was never designed to dogfight
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last Mosquito was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines The Mosquito used twin Merlins, the Skyraider used a single Wright 3350 aircooled radial, the ME-262 used two Junkers turbojets the MIG engine is unknown
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles All used 20-30mm cannon, the Mosquito also carried machine guns
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last" WWII, Korea and Viet Nam
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it Both were designed during WWII though the Skyraider was too late to see combat. It did see combat in the ground support role in Korea and Viet Nam
and now, HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I found, is that in 1944, a Mosquito was the first prop driven fighter to dogfight a jet fighter, an ME-262 to be exact. Both planes survived the encounter though the Mosquito crash landed at it's Italian base afterwards due to the damage it suffered.
A Skyraider was the last prop driven plane to dogfight a jet fighter, a MIG-19. Unlike the Mosquito, the Skyraider actually shot down the faster and more maneuverable MIG. Shortly after, all remaining Skyraiders were transferred to the South Vietnamese Air Force
1) These two aircraft shared a distinction from all other aircraft
2) While both types had great combat records, one was the first and the other the last
3) The two aircraft had maiden flights approximately four years apart The first flew the first time 25 November 1940, the last April 1945
4) The two aircraft made their first combat flights approximately nine years apart The first flew a photo/recon mission 17 September 1941, the last first flew 3 July 1950
5) The two aircraft were involved in events that led to the loss of the first but not the second Dogfighting jet fighters
6) Only the aircraft that was lost had more than one person on board. The first had a crew or two or three, the last had only a pilot
7) The "last" aircraft was performing a function it was never designed to perform It was designed as a Torpedo/Bomber that could also dive bomb. It was never designed to dogfight
8) The "last" aircraft was replaced soon after by new, faster aircraft that were themselves in service for well over 30 years The last was replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II
9) The last of the "first" was retired by the air forces of the building nation after only eight years of service The last Mosquito was retired in 1950
10) Both the "first" and the "last" had a disadvantage in their similar events, the "first" wasn't able to overcome this while the "last" did Both were outperformed in these events
11) The aircraft involved all used different engines The Mosquito used twin Merlins, the Skyraider used a single Wright 3350 aircooled radial, the ME-262 used two Junkers turbojets the MIG engine is unknown
12) All aircraft involved were armed with either machine guns or cannons, no missiles All used 20-30mm cannon, the Mosquito also carried machine guns
13) The "first" and "last" flyers spoke the same language, more or less, while everyone else involved spoke their own Only the flight crews of the first and last spoke a form of English
14) The events started by the "first"(resulting in it's crash landing afterward) and ended with the "last" covered three major conflicts involving the nation that manufactured the "last" WWII, Korea and Viet Nam
15) The "first" used a radical construction(for the time it was designed) that the powers that be didn't really trust or want to buy at first while the "last" was designed and used to do the same tasks as three well known, front line, proven combat aircraft that it replaced The first used wood in a previously untried way, the last replaced the SB2-C Helldiver, TBF/TBM Avenger and F4U Corsair
16) The "first" was this country's first aircraft to top the 400 MPH mark while the "last" was the last not to make 400 for it's country,even though it had more power than many that could
17) Both aircraft were designed during the same conflict, the "first" participated while the "last" waited for the next where it did not fly in defense of it's own country but to protect troops from it Both were designed during WWII though the Skyraider was too late to see combat. It did see combat in the ground support role in Korea and Viet Nam
and now, HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting!12,723 posts and STILL learning!
OK, let's find a new one...
1. It was an aircraft, albeit an unusual one.
2. Only two prototypes built.
3. Initially, the first prototype had two piston engines, later replaced with a single turboshaft engine. It first flew in 1958.
4. The second prototype had two turboshaft engines, and ejection seats too. It first flew in 1962.
OK, let's find a new one...
1. It was an aircraft, albeit an unusual one.
2. Only two prototypes built.
3. Initially, the first prototype had two piston engines, later replaced with a single turboshaft engine. It first flew in 1958.
4. The second prototype had two turboshaft engines, and ejection seats too. It first flew in 1962.