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Old 06-28-2018, 09:02 PM
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by David Johnston
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Sir; always nice to hear a new voice on the thread. No, not the Albatross; but please play again. And here's a morning clue, and a bonus clue for your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.
Old 06-29-2018, 10:45 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.
Old 06-29-2018, 01:29 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.
Old 06-30-2018, 05:23 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.
Old 06-30-2018, 10:35 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.
Old 06-30-2018, 05:43 PM
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
AJ Savage
What a great, though incorrect, guess, elmshoot. Until you came up with it, I hadn't considered how much the AJ Savage had in common with the subject aircraft. Again; not where we're headed, but a really good guess. And so you get a bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.

13. Twin engine and twin tailed.
Old 07-01-2018, 04:19 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.

13. Twin engine and twin tailed.

14. The wings were not staggered.
Old 07-01-2018, 11:55 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.

13. Twin engine and twin tailed.

14. The wings were not staggered.

15. The twin engines were mounted in nacelles on the lower wing.
Old 07-02-2018, 02:48 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.

13. Twin engine and twin tailed.

14. The wings were not staggered.

15. The twin engines were mounted in nacelles on the lower wing.

16. Twenty of the aircraft were fitted with turbosuperchargers.
Old 07-02-2018, 04:03 AM
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Martνn NBS1

Hello Ernie. I enjoy trying to guess the aircraft and pilots you describe during certain "free periods" between work and family but it is hard for me to take the publish clues everyday. Sometimes Ν loose my internet connection for hours on.
So if I don't supply a clue please don't be mad and continue the game. I always learn a lot from every round.
Cheers to all
Old 07-02-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterDays
Martνn NBS1

Hello Ernie. I enjoy trying to guess the aircraft and pilots you describe during certain "free periods" between work and family but it is hard for me to take the publish clues everyday. Sometimes Ν loose my internet connection for hours on.
So if I don't supply a clue please don't be mad and continue the game. I always learn a lot from every round.
Cheers to all
Right you are, Sir; and congratulations on solving the puzzle. Go ahead and post your question and try to post at least one new clue every 24 hours. If you miss a day, we'll understand; and try to be patient; but at least try to take the lead. We need all the "posters" we can find; and if you enjoy trying to answer questions, you'll probably like asking them. Go ahead; it's fun! Thanks; Ernie P.

This is the plane that actually sank the Ostfriesland; and accomplished the mission my last plane was built to perform.

What warbird do I describe?

1. This warbird was an improved and enlarged development of an earlier aircraft and was intended to perform the same general mission.

2. It remained in service for nearly a decade.

3. And was considered to be the standard aircraft of its type and service.

4. And it was considered to be the standard against which new aircraft of its type were to be judged for even longer.

5. Twin engine.

6. The landing gear was simplified from the earlier model.

7. More than 100 were produced; a respectable number for the time.

8. However, only the first 20 were produced by the designing company.

9. It was considered that the government owned the aircraft design.

10. The remainder were produced by the lowest bidder.

11. Which, in time, became three different companies.

12. The plane used a unique folding wing system.

13. Twin engine and twin tailed.

14. The wings were not staggered.

15. The twin engines were mounted in nacelles on the lower wing.

16. Twenty of the aircraft were fitted with turbosuperchargers.

17. This was the first use of this device in commercial production.

18. The turbosuperchargers allowed this plane to exceed 25,000 feet.

19. However, the turbosuperchargers were unreliable and weren’t used operationally.

20. The aircraft was armed with five machine guns.

21. Construction was wood and fabric.

22. Crew of four.

23. The bombload was 2,000 pounds.

24. Which allowed it to accomplish a famous feat.

25. For which another aircraft had been built.















Answer: Martin NBS-1

The Martin NBS-1 was a military aircraft of the United States Army Air Service and its successor, the Air Corps. An improved version of the Martin MB-1, a scout-bomber built during the final months of World War I, the NBS-1 was ordered under the designation MB-2 and is often referred to as such. The designation NBS-1, standing for "Night Bomber-Short Range", was adopted by the Air Service after the first five of the Martin bombers were delivered. The NBS-1 became the standard frontline bomber of the Air Service in 1920 and remained so until its replacement in 1928–1929 by the Keystone Aircraft series of bombers. The basic MB-2 design was also the standard against which prospective U.S. Army bombers were judged until the production of the Martin B-10 in 1933.
Design and development

The NBS-1 was a wood-and-fabric biplane without staggered wings, employing twin rudders on a twin vertical tail. Its two Liberty 12-A engines sat in nacelles on the lower wing, flanking the fuselage. Ordered under the company designation MB-2 in June 1920, the NBS-1 was an improved larger version of the Martin MB-1 bomber built by the Glenn L. Martin Company in 1918, also known as the GMB or Glenn Martin Bomber. The first flight of the MB-2 took place 3 September 1920. In addition to more powerful engines, larger wings and fuselage, and simplified landing gear, the NBS-1 also had a unique folding wing system, hinged outside the engine nacelles to fold backwards for storage in small hangars. Unlike the MB-1, whose engines were mounted between the wings in a fashion similar to the German Staaken R.VIRiesenflugzeug, the engines of the NBS-1 were fixed to the lower wing over the landing gear. The MB-2 was designed as a night bomber and except for a greater load capacity, had reduced performance characteristics compared to its MB-1 predecessor. The first 20 (five MB-2s and 15 NBS-1s) were ordered from the Martin Company, which recommended a further 50 be produced to help its struggling financial condition. However the design was owned by the U.S. Army and subsequent contracts for 110 bombers were awarded by low bid to three other companies: Curtiss Aircraft (50 ordered); Lowe, Willard & Fowler Engineering Company of College Point, New York (35); and Aeromarine Plane and Motor Company of Keyport, New Jersey (25). The engines of the last 20 bombers of the Curtiss order came equipped with turbosuperchargers manufactured by General Electric, the first such modification made in production quantity. Although enabling the NBS-1 to reach an altitude of over 25,000 ft (7,650 m), the turbosuperchargers were mechanically unreliable and not used operationally. The bomber was equipped defensively with five .30 in (7.62 mm) Lewis Guns, mounted in pairs in positions in the nose and upper rear fuselage, and singly in a bottom mount, firing behind and beneath the rear fuselage. The first two Martin MB-2s, Air Service serials 64195 and 64196, were retained at McCook Field in Dayton, Ohio, for R&D flight testing, marked with project numbers 'P162' and 'P227' respectively, as was the second NBS-1, 64201, marked as 'P222'. Four Curtiss NBS-1s were also assigned to McCook.


Operational history

The NBS-1 was the primary bomber used by Brigadier GeneralBilly Mitchell during Project B, the demonstration bombing of naval ships in July 1921. Six NBS-1 bombers, led by Captain Walter Lawson of the 96th Squadron operating out of Langley Field, bombed and sank the captured German battleshipSMS Ostfriesland on 21 July 1921, using specially developed 2,000 lb (907 kg) demolition bombs, externally mounted beneath the fuselage.
Survivors

There are no surviving original Martin NBS-1 bombers. In 2002, however, a full-scale reproduction went on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, constructed from original drawings. An example of the plane was featured in director William Wellman's 1927 Paramount silent film Wings, disguised as a German Gotha bomber. Footage was shot overhead of the MB-2 as it exited its tent hangar and from the MB-2 during flight. These aerial shots were revolutionary at the time, showing the public a perspective of aerial combat from the pilots' point of view. Wings won the first-ever Academy Award for best picture.
Specifications (NBS-1)



General characteristics

· Crew: four· Length: 42 ft 8 in (13.0 m)· Wingspan: 74 ft 2 in (22.7 m)· Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.8 m)· Wing area: 1,121 ft² (104.2 m²)· Empty weight: 7,232 lb (3,280 kg)· Loaded weight: 12,027 lb (5,460 kg)· Powerplant: 2 Χ Liberty 12-A liquid-cooled V12 engine, 420 hp (325 kW) each

Performance

· Maximum speed: 99 mph (85 kn, 160 km/h)· Cruise speed: 92 mph (80 kn, 150 km/h)· Range: 400 mi (345 nmi, 650 km)· Service ceiling: 7,700 ft (2,350 m)· Rate of climb: 391 ft/min (2.0 m/s)



Armament

· Guns: 5Χ .30 in (7.62 mm) Lewis machine guns· Bombs: 1,800 lb (820 kg) internal, or 2,000 lb (907 kg) external
Old 07-03-2018, 04:15 AM
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All; we'll give PeterDays a little more time in the hope he will post something. Otherwise, I'll declare the floor open for anyone to ask a question; first come, first served. If no one steps forward, I'll post a question tomorrow. I'd really prefer PeterDays post something, as we need more active posters; or, failing that, one of you. You guys have to be getting tired of seeing my posts. Thanks; Enrie P.
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I was thinking MB-10. I built one of the plastic kits as a Youth and thought what a poor quality kit.... I don't recall the mfg maybe Airfix certainly not a Revel. And also what an odd airplane, after all it was a between the wars product.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
I was thinking MB-10. I built one of the plastic kits as a Youth and thought what a poor quality kit.... I don't recall the mfg maybe Airfix certainly not a Revel. And also what an odd airplane, after all it was a between the wars product.
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Sparky; I'm not sure what plane you referenced. Did you mean the Martin B-10? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-03-2018, 07:52 PM
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All; seeing no response from PeterDays, the floor is now open for any questioner. If no one responds by tomorrow evening, I will post a question. But I think you guys are getting tired of reading my stuff. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-03-2018, 09:12 PM
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Okay guys, I'll throw out an easy one.
Looking for an airplane:
1) This plane was one of the first of it's kind
2) This plane was powered by a single engine
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:26 PM
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Ernie,
Yes the Martin B-10 I think I built it during one of my too frequent visits to the hospital as a youth.

how about the Eindecker ?

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Nope, not the Eindecker. How about another clue, or more.
Looking for an airplane:
1) This plane was one of the first of it's kind
2) This plane was powered by a single engine
3) This plane had a crew of two
4) This plane had a design feature used by only one other manufacturer
5) While this plane was around during a war, it was never used in combat
Good Luck
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Ernie,
Yes the Martin B-10 I think I built it during one of my too frequent visits to the hospital as a youth.

how about the Eindecker ?

Sparky
I've always looked at the B-10 and thought "Really? Someone designed that and actually let other people see it? Really?" FWIW; I used to build quite a few, from around six years on, but I haven't built a plastic model kit since around 1980. That's when life started getting stupid busy for me. But I still buy one occasionally, thinking things have to slow down eventually. Thanks; Ernie P.
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So, no takers? Guess it's time for another clue, or three.
Looking for an airplane:
1) This plane was one of the first of it's kind
2) This plane was powered by a single engine
3) This plane had a crew of two
4) This plane had a design feature used by only one other manufacturer
5) While this plane was around during a war, it was never used in combat
6) This plane was designed to replace a previously designed, but not accepted, aircraft that had a parasol wing arrangement
7) This plane was only purchased by the country of manufacture and two of their allies. One of the ally's planes never flew, after being received, and actually corroded to the point of being junk
8) This plane shared it's name with another successful aircraft that was built roughly five years later
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And, once again, no takers? Guess it's time for a few more clues.
Looking for an airplane:
1) This plane was one of the first of it's kind
2) This plane was powered by a single engine
3) This plane had a crew of two
4) This plane had a design feature used by only one other manufacturer
5) While this plane was around during a war, it was never used in combat
6) This plane was designed to replace a previously designed, but not accepted, aircraft that had a parasol wing arrangement
7) This plane was only purchased by the country of manufacture and two of their allies. One of the ally's planes never flew, after being received, and actually corroded to the point of being junk
8) This plane shared it's name with another successful aircraft that was built roughly five years later
9) This plane was originally armed with two 30 caliber machine guns.
10) The country that ordered but didn't fly this plane had it armed with twin 50 caliber guns instead of the .30s
11) This plane was replaced by another plane that became legendary due to it's performance, durability and combat record
Good Luck

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Since no one has taken a guess, I'm going to throw out an extra clue, just for GP
Looking for an airplane:
1) This plane was one of the first of it's kind
2) This plane was powered by a single engine
3) This plane had a crew of two
4) This plane had a design feature used by only one other manufacturer
5) While this plane was around during a war, it was never used in combat
6) This plane was designed to replace a previously designed, but not accepted, aircraft that had a parasol wing arrangement
7) This plane was only purchased by the country of manufacture and two of their allies. One of the ally's planes never flew, after being received, and actually corroded to the point of being junk
8) This plane shared it's name with another successful aircraft that was built roughly five years later
9) This plane was originally armed with two 30 caliber machine guns.
10) The country that ordered but didn't fly this plane had it armed with twin 50 caliber guns instead of the .30s
11) This plane was replaced by another plane that became legendary due to it's performance, durability and combat record
12) A contemporary plane, used in the same role as our subject aircraft that actually did see combat, was badly mauled during it's only battle
Good Luck
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