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Old 04-05-2019, 06:50 AM
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Here you go, the lower picture shows the only Chu X-PO to fly.
When you compare it to the P-36 Hawk/Mohawk, shown above in British markings, they are difficult
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:44 AM
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Sorry for throwing any confusion into the quiz guys. I got hung up on “cancelled after 5 built”.

Fyi Arrows RL-201 to 205 were powered by the J75 engine. RL-206 was to be the first to fly on the intended Iroquois engines, but never flew.
Old 04-05-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
Hydro Junkie,

That WAS a very good quiz. It took me a while to figure it out. Thanks!!

OK, here's a new quiz:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
Why do I think this one may not last all that long? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 04-05-2019, 12:10 PM
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Wait... You said total number built was 8. Do you mean 8 total airframes built; or 8 total built/converted for firefighting? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 04-05-2019, 02:57 PM
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Ernie,

total of 8 of that aircraft model built.

Does that answer your question?

Old 04-05-2019, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
Ernie,

total of 8 of that aircraft model built.

Does that answer your question?

Sir; yes, that answered my question. Sometimes, I don't read things as they are intended. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 04-06-2019, 03:49 AM
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Sir, you are very welcome. New clue!

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
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I would love to see a picture or line drawing of the Chu X-Po plane.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:27 AM
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New clues:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
Old 04-08-2019, 03:22 AM
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New clues:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
Old 04-08-2019, 02:36 PM
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OK, this clue should break this wide open. If you can't figure it out from this clue, I despair for the world!

New clues:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
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New clues:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
9. The manufacturer was a Canadian subsidiary of a foreign company.
10. The company that built it went through a number of ownership changes by other companies over the years.
Old 04-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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Was this a warbird (military) plane ? You have given no clues that indicated used by the military.
Old 04-10-2019, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
New clues:

1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
9. The manufacturer was a Canadian subsidiary of a foreign company.
10. The company that built it went through a number of ownership changes by other companies over the years.
JohnnyS; I'll freely admit this one is a puzzler. There are lots of plausible answers, but none of them seem to fit ALL the clues. Thanks; Ernie P.
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1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
9. The manufacturer was a Canadian subsidiary of a foreign company.
10. The company that built it went through a number of ownership changes by other companies over the years.
11. The purchaser of the aircraft was the national air force of the nation. (For rcjetflyer0718-RCU)
12. It was an unequal-span biplane.
Old 04-10-2019, 04:24 AM
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How about the Gotha Bomber?
Old 04-10-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
9. The manufacturer was a Canadian subsidiary of a foreign company.
10. The company that built it went through a number of ownership changes by other companies over the years.
11. The purchaser of the aircraft was the national air force of the nation. (For rcjetflyer0718-RCU)
12. It was an unequal-span biplane.
JohnnyS; I finally had a few minutes (following the deaths and funeral services of six close friends and extended family members over the past few weeks) to do some digging, and I'm pretty sure I have the answer. To be honest, I had never heard of the plane. Good question! You're only a dozen questions into this, and I've been up a lot lately. So I'll let it ride for the moment. Let me know if you want me to solve it. And you have a PM. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 04-10-2019, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
1. It was originally purchased for the purpose of moving firefighters and their equipment to forest fires.
2. Total number built was 8.
3. Twin engines. There were two variants, and the only difference between the two variants was the make and model of engine.
4. Had a steel tube and wood structure.
5. Top speed under 100mph.
6. The aircraft was an enlarged version of a previous aircraft built by the same company which was a single engined aircraft.
7. The twin engines were radials.
8. Alighting speed was less than 45 mph.
9. The manufacturer was a Canadian subsidiary of a foreign company.
10. The company that built it went through a number of ownership changes by other companies over the years.
11. The purchaser of the aircraft was the national air force of the nation. (For rcjetflyer0718-RCU)
12. It was an unequal-span biplane.
Okay; how about the Canadian Vickers Varuna? Thanks; Ernie P.

Answer: The Canadian Vickers Varuna

The Canadian Vickers Varuna was a Canadianflying boat of the 1920s built by Canadian Vickers as a twin-engined, unequal-span biplane, with a wooden hull and steel tube structure.

Design and development
The Varuna was developed in response to a Royal Canadian Air Force requirement for a flying boat to transport men and equipment to forest fires. It was a large-scale twin-engined version of the Vedette.

Operational history
Most Varunas spent their service in Manitoba operating in their intended role; all Varuna IIs were withdrawn in 1930 and the sole Varuna I was struck off in 1932.

Variants
· · Varuna I - with Wright J-6 Whirlwind radial engines, one built.

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Varuna II - with Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IV radial engines.

Specifications (Varuna II)
Data from Jane's all the World's Aircraft 1928
General characteristics
· Crew: 4

· Length: 36 ft 10 in (11.23 m)

· Upper wingspan: 55 ft 1 in (16.8 m)

· Lower wingspan: 47 ft 4 in (14.42 m)

· Height: 13 ft 9 in (4.19 m)

· Wing area: 715 sq ft (66.4 m2)

· Empty weight: 3,369 lb (1,528 kg)

· Gross weight: 5,299 lb (2,404 kg)

· Fuel capacity: 90 imp gal (110 US gal; 410 l) in two wing tanks, with an optional 60 imp gal (72 US gal; 270 l) ferry tank in the hull

· Powerplant: 2 Χ Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IV 7-cyl. air-cooled radial piston engine, 187 hp (139 kW) each ·

Performance

· Maximum speed: 82 kn; 151 km/h (94 mph)

· Alighting speed: 44 mph (38 kn; 71 km/h)

· Service ceiling: 14,000 ft (4,300 m)

· Time to altitude: 5,000 ft (1,500 m) in 9 minutes

· Wing loading: 7.4 lb/sq ft (36 kg/m2)

· Power/mass: 0.0377 hp/lb (0.0620 kW/kg) ·

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Old 04-11-2019, 12:26 AM
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Ernie, that's exactly right. Bravo! The floor is yours.
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I hope this one is at least interesting. A lot of planes are as a certain actor famously claimed: "I coulda been a contender". This is one such. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.
Old 04-12-2019, 02:52 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.



2. But then it was suggested the plane could be lightened a bit.

Old 04-12-2019, 08:57 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.



2. But then it was suggested the plane could be lightened a bit.





3. And the wing should be stiffened.

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Evening clue. And, since I won't be around much the next couple of days, a few extra to cover the weekend. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.

2. But then it was suggested the plane could be lightened a bit.

3. And the wing should be stiffened.

4. So the order was cancelled.

5. By the time the revised (lightened and stiffened) aircraft was ready, the war was almost over. But still, twenty aircraft were ordered.

6. The revised Model B featured not only a strengthened wing with additional bracing; and a revised vertical stabilizer and rudder; as well as strengthened landing gear.

7. In the original tests, the subject aircraft was found to have superior performance to almost any of the aircraft then in production.
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.

2. But then it was suggested the plane could be lightened a bit.

3. And the wing should be stiffened.

4. So the order was cancelled.

5. By the time the revised (lightened and stiffened) aircraft was ready, the war was almost over. But still, twenty aircraft were ordered.

6. The revised Model B featured not only a strengthened wing with additional bracing; and a revised vertical stabilizer and rudder; as well as strengthened landing gear.

7. In the original tests, the subject aircraft was found to have superior performance to almost any of the aircraft then in production.

8. So, the builders decided to continue development and sales.

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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

1. A single prototype of a new fighter showed great promise in testing; and an initial order for 100 aircraft was placed.

2. But then it was suggested the plane could be lightened a bit.

3. And the wing should be stiffened.

4. So the order was cancelled.

5. By the time the revised (lightened and stiffened) aircraft was ready, the war was almost over. But still, twenty aircraft were ordered.

6. The revised Model B featured not only a strengthened wing with additional bracing; and a revised vertical stabilizer and rudder; as well as strengthened landing gear.

7. In the original tests, the subject aircraft was found to have superior performance to almost any of the aircraft then in production.

8. So, the builders decided to continue development and sales.

9. Their monoplane was, yet again, revised.

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