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Yes- it is overated
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Yes- it is overmodeled
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Yes- it is overated and overmodeled
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No- it is not overmodeled
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No- we all like P-51s
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Yes- I like Yak-3s more.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:11 AM
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Far from over modeled, at least decent scale versions available to us modelers in kit and plan form, that look right!! I think Brian Taylor, Aerotech and Comp ARF are amoung the few who have actually done it justice in my opinion
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:12 AM
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I wouldn't care how many P-51's there were out there- It's the plane that brought my grandfather through 73 missions in the war and out of respect and love for him I still would have built a copy of his mount...from a kit or highly bashed quality arf. Having the memories of all the stories and the album full of photos just sorta cements it though, eh?
My first loves in R/C are the WWII fighters. My first models were the enemy, and then the help. 109's, 190's and spitty's Just something warm, stark and agressive about the Luftwaffe birds and sleek and sharky about the Stangs and Spits.

As far as crummy ARFs go..I loath them ALL. Nothing hurts the eyes worse than a really ugly and wrong representation of a great warrior. That being said there are a few MFGR's out there that have ARF's which provide a great platform for a good looking scale kitbash and are well worth the time.




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Besides the fact that the P-51 Mustang was undeniably the best prop powered fighter plane ever,............................
That is exactly why this thread is a poll, and why some (inluding myself) consider it over-rated.
While is cannot be denied that it was a great fighter, many of us do not consider it to be a better combat fighter than many other fighters of the era, performance wise and survivability wise. As stated earlier, it had one advantage over most other fighters: range. Also, it was more economical (more mpg, cheaper to produce than P-47).
Therefor, it IS deniable.

But, the Mustang is prettier.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:06 AM
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I love warbirds, but I see them too often at the field.

So, I moved to Reno racers, still WBs but the look is different.

I had a DAGORED, and I stll have a SeaFury FURIAS and a P51 Blue Thunder.

The only Real WB I still have is a ZERO, as I did notfind any "Zero-Racer"
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The results of this poll show that even in this very limited group (within RCUniverse) the mustang is very popular compared to other WW2 fighters. And if you ran this poll in the outside world - outside RCUniverse - the poll would be far more in favor of the mustang.

The other fighters are fine in their own right. But the mustang is and always will be more popular and this why it is "over-modeled" and why some are sick of it.

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:08 AM
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I will ad my 2 cents worth. The P51 D is over modeled, now a nice p51 b or a model makes for a nice change. Its like having your wife put on a French Maids outfit and a blond wig, you just gotta make it fresh and new .......
i agree in a red tail . a b would be cool
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I should have added earlier that ,though I don't get tired of seeing the airframe modeled extensively, I DO get tired of seeing the same color scheme/name repeatedly. Actually, maybe that's my subconcious "better than you" sarcasm problem poking through...might need to work on that a bit more. I guess I just really don't care for/pay a lot of attention to a plane that was just poured out of the box and someone hit the "fly" button.
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To each his own. Its a big seller. Number one in plastics and all.

Is it over modele?. I guess, but only a few are worth looking at.

I have a few Mustangs. Taylor"s 69" span true to scale version. The CMP 54" span and the 71"span D's ( not bad for what they are $). And an old Pilot kit P-51D.

But.......

I fly mostly Axis war birds. You guys need someone to try and shoot down in your heads. Just like me.

Without the enemy, non of the Allied war birds would have been invented.

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The last bit about the Yak-3 was a bit of a joke - It is my favourite fighter of the era

My latest giant scale project. Just finished and delivered to the owner.
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They stink!!!

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Warbird51, wish I had your job. Tell me since you would be the one in the know I am guessiing. Why is there now a market for these warbirds? Did the rules change or what? There are P51Ds and Bs you can now buy Yaks < migs and Zeros, Fw-190s etc. What has chnged to make this happen?
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Hi

I voted ........................ and I agree there are too many P-51,s , I have 3 and none of them are scale , but they are all different . I am building a TopFlite P-51 and the first thing I promised myself , was to put it in another country,s color scheme , I love my neigbors , But the US of A , is not the only country that flew , P-51,s . ( please guys be easy with me )
I also have an ARF TopFlite giant with a Da-50r and Keleo exhaust system . I love the challange and every time I fly it , my heart beats a little bite faster . I think , if the makers came out with different country color schemes , I think , it would be nice .

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Old 02-02-2010, 05:50 PM
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Overmodeled maybe, but not overrated! Here is a few of mine, first out a Byron then a C-arf. Next ones are 1/4 scale composites. My fifth one are on buildingtable.[link]http://www.rcflyg.se/forum/showthread.php?t=26570[/link]
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Frets24 - I think all warbirds deserve respect for protecting loved ones and helping with ending the war. My grandfather did not fly, but was the operator of a secret radar system aboard a Wellington. It was designed to "bend" the German radar, and cause them to miss targets.
The pictures you posted of the model P-51 are incredible - really nice work on the cockpit.

Warbird51 - I envy you.



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Overmodeled maybe, but not overrated! Here is a few of mine, first out a Byron then a C-arf. Next ones are 1/4 scale composites. My fifth one are on buildingtable.[link]http://www.rcflyg.se/forum/showthread.php?t=26570[/link]
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The four bladed prop , to die for , if thats youre Byron , it must sound great

Love the look of youre ship, s , and picture #5 , with the glove , priceless .
Personaly , I found fliying giant scale P-51 a challenge , it, most certainly is not for the faint of heart
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Over modeled, I think maybe, over rated, not even! I am in the process of assembly of an ESM P-51B and look forward to getting it out to the field where the B model is a rare commodity. And NO, I will never get sick of the P-51!
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Hi tobbe very dude BIRD
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Hi

I voted ........................ and I agree there are too many P-51,s , I have 3 and none of them are scale , but they are all different . I am building a TopFlite P-51 and the first thing I promised myself , was to put it in another country,s color scheme , I love my neigbors , But the US of A , is not the only country that flew , P-51,s . ( please guys be easy with me )
I also have an ARF TopFlite giant with a Da-50r and Keleo exhaust system . I love the challange and every time I fly it , my heart beats a little bite faster . I think , if the makers came out with different country color schemes , I think , it would be nice .

Michel
Michel; See my remark on Post#22

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The only reason there are so many arfs and such... they sell well. If nobody wanted to buy them do you think they would make so many?

I will say my mustang has been parked for some time because I got tired of flying in circles just doing a few maneuvers. I've been having more fun with yaks and extras lately.
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Warbird51, wish I had your job. Tell me since you would be the one in the know I am guessiing. Why is there now a market for these warbirds? Did the rules change or what? There are P51Ds and Bs you can now buy Yaks < migs and Zeros, Fw-190s etc. What has chnged to make this happen?

Well, I'm very lucky to be in the position of restoring warbirds. Trust me, it never gets old or boring. To answer ram-bro's question, the value of the P-51's have directly affected the warbird market. A lot of pilot's don't have the $1.5 - 2.2M for a P-51D. So, they look around and lo and behold you can have a Yak-3 with very similar performance capability for $400,000 to $500,000. With the demand and the price increases for Mustangs, it has become worthwhile to restore P-51B's and C's. That is why they have joined the list of restored and flyable Mustangs. We just sent a Mig-17 to a museum in Idaho. My friend bought it 10 years ago for a unbelievable low price delivered to San Francisco. But when the fuel prices shot up, he decided he couldn't afford the fuel prices. So he is restoring a Yak-3 as well. I still have another Yak-3 we're putting together also. So, it comes down to value. That's why you are seeing the influx of other warbirds being restored.
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where are they all coming from? I mean restoring a bird that has been sitting around fo 60+ yrs........Are any of these actually new builds/experimentals?
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I wouldn't care how many P-51's there were out there- It's the plane that brought my grandfather through 73 missions in the war and out of respect and love for him I still would have built a copy of his mount...from a kit or highly bashed quality arf. Having the memories of all the stories and the album full of photos just sorta cements it though, eh?
Amen.

One of these days I'll get around to building a p-51 myself, and one of the biggest reasons for me is that it's the plane my grandfather flew. Of course, I do need to find a reasonable B model to build, which does seem a bit harder to find.
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The P-51D was my first glow powered airplane. It was a Cox or Wen Mac plastic ready to fly control line .049. Circa 1964,had the glide path of a rock and I crashed it just about every time I flew it. It ended up being trashed and only the engine survived for another year or two. But that plane led me to a Guillows #3 trainer and I have been flying off and on ever since. I think It's one of the best looking propellor fighter planes ever built.

Is it over rated? NO over built? Yes. I see very few really good ones.

According to Discovery Channel Great Planes it was last produced as a turbo prop in 1984.( A order was made for the Swiss Air Force?)

Bob Hoover who was a P-51 test pilot for Rockwell the planes builder, was the only pilot that could take a new Mustang and completely trash the airframe to the point of being "unflyable" in one flight!
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All set here with the mustang. Tired of seeing them at the field, in magazines and all over the forums. I'm tired of the edge 540 too!
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