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Old 03-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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Ok Don Thank you very much

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Well, maybe someone here can point me in a good direction. I need to complete this plane quick!

Which servos torquewould you recommend for this plane? Would a standard size $12 dollar servo from JR or Hitec work?

Also, going to need those retracts. Does everyone suggest staying away from the ESM ones and waiting for the Sierra ones? What makes the Sierra ones so much better? Don't say quality! That would be an obvious. LOL. But seriously what justifies the price difference?

Sorry for all the questions. I just want to make sure that this plane is built to high standards, but at the same time, not costing me a second mortgage.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:38 PM
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For me I will be running JR 811 on all surfaces and a standard G-26
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ESM T-28 Owners,

Have a question.
How many of you are going to need/want retracts for the T-28?

There are only 33 planes here in the states right now, so I was going
to do at least a dozen sets plus some spare parts.
I already have orders for 6 sets, so it's enough to get started.

Every time we make retracts for one of the ESM/KMP Planes we end
up running another batch later because we did not make enough.
But we never want to end up with a great deal of unsold gear setting around.

I would like to make a large enough run of the parts for everybody
that even thinks they would like a set. The more we make in one
production run, the cheaper they are for everyone.

Just for reference, we will be doing a Much More Scale Nose Strut than the
ESM units. It just doesn't look right without the correct fork and mount.

I do not have a final price yet, but can say they will cost as least $425.00
for the 3 gear set.

If that is out of your price range, I understand, and you can opt to get the
cheaper ESM brand. Your call.

Let me know quickly as we start making parts Thursday.
(Tomorrow I'm Irish)

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Old 03-16-2010, 04:13 PM
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ohh Darrell i would like to get one set of your retracts i these would be the first sierra retracts i ever got, i had my t-28 be shipped down here to Honduras Central America
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Dear Darrell,

I will take also a set of retract for the T-28. I'm leaving in Switzerland.

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Darrell,

count me in for a set I am waiting for the KMP T28 Trojan
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Darrell, i gave Tomas my ESM t-28 [SIEERA] gear order some 3 or 4 weeks ago. please check to be sure i am on your list [from Tomas] for a set. thank you for posting the comment on the front fork scale t-28 retract look. i am looking forward to seeing what the finish goods will look and be. knowing you, it's right the first time. thank you don
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ESM T-28 Owners,

Have a question.
How many of you are going to need/want retracts for the T-28?

There are only 33 planes here in the states right now, so I was going
to do at least a dozen sets plus some spare parts.
I already have orders for 6 sets, so it's enough to get started.

Every time we make retracts for one of the ESM/KMP Planes we end
up running another batch later because we did not make enough.
But we never want to end up with a great deal of unsold gear setting around.

I would like to make a large enough run of the parts for everybody
that even thinks they would like a set. The more we make in one
production run, the cheaper they are for everyone.

Just for reference, we will be doing a Much More Scale Nose Strut than the
ESM units. It just doesn't look right without the correct fork and mount.

I do not have a final price yet, but can say they will cost as least $425.00
for the 3 gear set.

If that is out of your price range, I understand, and you can opt to get the
cheaper ESM brand. Your call.

Let me know quickly as we start making parts Thursday.
(Tomorrow I'm Irish)

Darrell Tenny
Sierra Giant Scale
Darrell, so any idea of materials used? Will they be made of titanium or steel or aluminum? For the $425 will they come with the air tank and air actuator? What about the wheels, does it come with wheels for that prcie? If it comes with ALLof that, the $425 STILLSEEMSHIGH!!! I mean, thats more than the plane! But I still might order this despite the price provided the answers I get.

Thanks, Jon
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Hi Darrell:
I would like a set also

Thanks, Dave
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:00 PM
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I'll take a set too

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Add one more T-28 set to your total.
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Darrell,

I'll take a set as well after all.
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Darell,

Count me in! I am in your customer file.

Thanks,

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Old 03-17-2010, 11:43 PM
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Hey Gents...

Lets talk wheels for this plane! Does anyone know the size of the wheels the plane requires?

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Perry, who's wheels are those? any size and cost yet? will the front wheel be the narrow type we see on some T-28's? thanks don
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High? Eye of the beholder I guess.

My 1/4 scale retracts for the Miester Fw 190D9 cost me more than the full cut kit, plans and all the fiberglass parts. And mind you that was just for two main struts...

They are worth every penny.

You can get leaky, weak, non-scale looking gear on the cheap or you can get some of the best gear, if not the best, on the market which works like it is supposed to the first time, is much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it... your choice.
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Subscribed for the assembly ...

Good luck!
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Perry, who's wheels are those? any size and cost yet? will the front wheel be the narrow type we see on some T-28's? thanks don

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High? Eye of the beholder I guess.

My 1/4 scale retracts for the Miester Fw 190D9 cost me more than the full cut kit, plans and all the fiberglass parts. And mind you that was just for two main struts...

They are worth every penny.

You can get leaky, weak, non-scale looking gear on the cheap or you can get some of the best gear, if not the best, on the market which works like it is supposed to the first time, is much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it... your choice.

LikeI said, I know nothing of this company and when I decide (IFIDECIDE) to use them, I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice. I don't buy something just because someone else says that they are worth "every penny". But IDObuy something when people give me examples like "much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it." When I bought my INFINITI, I didn't say, HEYits an INFINITI it must be worth "every penny", but I went and test drove it, checked reviews on it, and so forth. When I'm about to drop $400+ on a set of retracts, I 1. want to know exactly WHAT is included. 2. What the material is that is being used. 3. Why its priced at its said price point. 4. And since Ican't "test drive" it, Ihave to go by others reviews on the product, so therefore I EXPECT some info on it.


Thanks Evil_Merlin!


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High? Eye of the beholder I guess.

My 1/4 scale retracts for the Miester Fw 190D9 cost me more than the full cut kit, plans and all the fiberglass parts. And mind you that was just for two main struts...

They are worth every penny.

You can get leaky, weak, non-scale looking gear on the cheap or you can get some of the best gear, if not the best, on the market which works like it is supposed to the first time, is much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it... your choice.

Like I said, I know nothing of this company and when I decide (IF I DECIDE) to use them, I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice. I don't buy something just because someone else says that they are worth ''every penny''. But I DO buy something when people give me examples like ''much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it.'' When I bought my INFINITI, I didn't say, HEY its an INFINITI it must be worth ''every penny'', but I went and test drove it, checked reviews on it, and so forth. When I'm about to drop $400+ on a set of retracts, I 1. want to know exactly WHAT is included. 2. What the material is that is being used. 3. Why its priced at its said price point. 4. And since I can't ''test drive'' it, I have to go by others reviews on the product, so therefore I EXPECT some info on it.


Thanks Evil_Merlin!


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Like I said, I know nothing of this company and when I decide (IF I DECIDE) to use them, I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice. I don't buy something just because someone else says that they are worth ''every penny''. But I DO buy something when people give me examples like ''much more scale looking and will survive everything you throw at it.'' When I bought my INFINITI, I didn't say, HEY its an INFINITI it must be worth ''every penny'', but I went and test drove it, checked reviews on it, and so forth. When I'm about to drop $400+ on a set of retracts, I 1. want to know exactly WHAT is included. 2. What the material is that is being used. 3. Why its priced at its said price point. 4. And since I can't ''test drive'' it, I have to go by others reviews on the product, so therefore I EXPECT some info on it.


Thanks Evil_Merlin!


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Evil wasn't trying to hurt your feelings. It is well know through out the RC community that Darrell's retracts are the best in the world. Sierra is small company and Darrell designs, builds and talks on the phone at the same time. You can see how beefy his gear is by checking out some of the photos on his website. They are all US made of high quality aluminum and steel. It might be odd that the gear cost more than the plane but the gear isn't slapped together by some kid on an assembly line in China. The gear will be around long after the plane is gone.
Darrell put it pretty plainly that if it was too much you can buy the ESM gear. BUT let me tell you I have read more than one thread on the ESM planes and it seems like half end up chunking the ESM gear and buying the Sierra retracts.
I am going to buy an ESM corsair because 1. I love corsairs and 2. Darrell makes retracts for them.
Finally, all you get for the price he quoted is the retracts. You will have to buy the wheels and air kit separately.
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Thanks Whistling Death. He didn't hurt my feelings. He had really good points. But in my question to Sierra, was what was included. So what if I think the price is too "high"??? Thats my opinion and I'm entitled to that. Its just my opinion, nothing more. But now you raise some more questions for me. If it doesn't come with wheels and the air kit, then how much more is that going to cost? Wheels are what, Another $100? And the air kit, another $50? So $150 +$400 = $550. Yeah, THAT is too much. I'm going to have to go with the ESM retracts. $550 doesn't jive with me, or my family, or my mortgage especially in this economy.

But againWD, I'm not upset, nor was my feelings hurt. Evil had some valuable information and so did you. But the bottom line is that the price is too high "for me". I hope you don't take this to heart and think that it was a personal attack on ANYONE here. More like a "heart" attack for me and my wallet. Who knew retracts could cost so much.
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