ESM Lavochkin LA-7
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Huntington,
NY
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ESM Lavochkin LA-7
Is anyone planning on, or currently building an LA-7 with a gas engine. Mine is on the way from TBM, along with Sierra Retracts and cockpit kit from VQ.
I'm thinking about doing a build thread on the LA-7 using a 50cc Gasser, but honestly don't know if I'll have the time to do a thread the right way between, work, kids, the build and FLYING BABY.
So maybe just some good info swapping with any of you guys who are doing a similar build.
Would especially love to hear from anyone who's actually maidened this bird.
Saw a few threads from guys doing electric builds (whats with that on a warbird?), so I'm looking for others who have experience with the ESM warbirds (especially the LA-7).
Many thanks
looking forward to hearing from you.
DB
I'm thinking about doing a build thread on the LA-7 using a 50cc Gasser, but honestly don't know if I'll have the time to do a thread the right way between, work, kids, the build and FLYING BABY.
So maybe just some good info swapping with any of you guys who are doing a similar build.
Would especially love to hear from anyone who's actually maidened this bird.
Saw a few threads from guys doing electric builds (whats with that on a warbird?), so I'm looking for others who have experience with the ESM warbirds (especially the LA-7).
Many thanks
looking forward to hearing from you.
DB
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Jose,
CA
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
A 50 cc will be way too big. I couldn't find a motor, other than glow, that would fit totally inside the cowl. The best fit was the Evolution 40 or the Bryson 2.4. The plane flys easily with a 36 cc or even smaller motor. My plane has a 3000 watt electric and has too much power. It will fly around at 1/4 trottle just fine.
Jeff
Jeff
#3
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Huntington,
NY
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
thanks Jeff, appreciate the input
I've heard the same thing from many people.
believe it or not I actually have a 50cc gasser in my GP super stearman.
Way overkill, but its a blast to fly
I may consider a 30 or 40 for the LA-7 but will probably go for a 50 with some customizing on the exhaust to tuck it in.
any suggeestions in the servo dept (JR radio)
I've heard the same thing from many people.
believe it or not I actually have a 50cc gasser in my GP super stearman.
Way overkill, but its a blast to fly
I may consider a 30 or 40 for the LA-7 but will probably go for a 50 with some customizing on the exhaust to tuck it in.
any suggeestions in the servo dept (JR radio)
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Jose,
CA
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
I used 625s in mine. You need a good one for the elevator as it's a pretty big control service. It's similar to the P47 in that it also has a large elevator surface.
Jeff
Jeff
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Jose,
CA
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
LDM,
I have done many conversions using the same setup with good success. I am using an Eflite Poer 160, Castle 110 amp ESC and two 6S 5000 mah packs in series for 12S. I also use a 10 amp voltage regulator with either a 1320 or 2100 11.1 volt battery for the receiver power supply. I use various motor mounts depending on the planes. Hanger 9, Hyperion and others make nice electric motor mounts for larger conversions. My last one (ESM LA-7) used an electrical type NEMA box that holds the batteries and motor all in one. Worked well! Most of the time you just put the batteries where the fuel tank would go and the CG comes out fine. Sometimes you need a little more weight up front, but not much.
Jeff
I have done many conversions using the same setup with good success. I am using an Eflite Poer 160, Castle 110 amp ESC and two 6S 5000 mah packs in series for 12S. I also use a 10 amp voltage regulator with either a 1320 or 2100 11.1 volt battery for the receiver power supply. I use various motor mounts depending on the planes. Hanger 9, Hyperion and others make nice electric motor mounts for larger conversions. My last one (ESM LA-7) used an electrical type NEMA box that holds the batteries and motor all in one. Worked well! Most of the time you just put the batteries where the fuel tank would go and the CG comes out fine. Sometimes you need a little more weight up front, but not much.
Jeff
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Jose,
CA
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
Ty,
I have used the 12S setup on 4 or 5 planes now with good success. The motors are fine as long as you don't go full throttle for very long. I am getting over 2800 watts with this setup. The other option is going with a Hacker motor, but they are VERY expensive. So far no issues with my setup. Eflite recommends using a 10S setup on the motor, but using a little higher voltage just makes it use less amps so it should be better in the long run as long as you don't over heat the motor.
I have used this on my first plane (Hanger 9 150 size P51) for about 1.5 years now without any issues. I must have 100 flights on this plan by now and haven't had an issue with the setup. I did have an ESC go out on the plane, but that was not related to the 12S setup since the Castle 110 amp can take up to 16S packs. I sent it back to Castle and they said it was a bad board.
Changed the ESC and it's still flying fine.
Jeff
I have used the 12S setup on 4 or 5 planes now with good success. The motors are fine as long as you don't go full throttle for very long. I am getting over 2800 watts with this setup. The other option is going with a Hacker motor, but they are VERY expensive. So far no issues with my setup. Eflite recommends using a 10S setup on the motor, but using a little higher voltage just makes it use less amps so it should be better in the long run as long as you don't over heat the motor.
I have used this on my first plane (Hanger 9 150 size P51) for about 1.5 years now without any issues. I must have 100 flights on this plan by now and haven't had an issue with the setup. I did have an ESC go out on the plane, but that was not related to the 12S setup since the Castle 110 amp can take up to 16S packs. I sent it back to Castle and they said it was a bad board.
Changed the ESC and it's still flying fine.
Jeff
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Wolverhampton, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: ESM Lavochkin LA-7
I love this plane, it has superb flying characteristics, this is a video of my son flying it, he does not go that low with his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99HkD8OGM3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99HkD8OGM3E