ESM 50cc Corsair
01-13-2011, 06:44 AM
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Ian,
Awsome job with the weathering, but for me, I'll be leaving mine lookin' new. Why, because when birds are first made, guess what, the are and look new - nothing wrong with lookin' like it just rolled out the factory. And don't anyone beat me up for this; this is what I like; this is how ''mine'' will look. As I fly it in the sun, moist air, whatever, it will weather on it's own [img][/img] Will look nothing like DB's but it will be fine for me.
Again, excellent job...
Mr DJ
Ian,
Awsome job with the weathering, but for me, I'll be leaving mine lookin' new. Why, because when birds are first made, guess what, the are and look new - nothing wrong with lookin' like it just rolled out the factory. And don't anyone beat me up for this; this is what I like; this is how ''mine'' will look. As I fly it in the sun, moist air, whatever, it will weather on it's own [img][/img] Will look nothing like DB's but it will be fine for me.
Again, excellent job...
Mr DJ
Ian.
01-13-2011, 09:00 AM
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And there in lies the beauty of this wonderful hobby............" To each his own"
Me? I like some light weathering as if the bird has just arrived in the theater of operations and has had a few sorties under her cowl.
RCU IS MY FACEBOOK..........................CAPTAIN RON
Me? I like some light weathering as if the bird has just arrived in the theater of operations and has had a few sorties under her cowl.
RCU IS MY FACEBOOK..........................CAPTAIN RON
01-13-2011, 09:12 AM
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I would appreciate your honest opinion of this ESM 50cc Corsair. Will you start your own build thread? I just finished my TF P-47 and am looking for a project thru the rest of the winter.
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Steve
I would appreciate your honest opinion of this ESM 50cc Corsair. Will you start your own build thread? I just finished my TF P-47 and am looking for a project thru the rest of the winter.
Thanks
Steve
01-13-2011, 12:09 PM
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I guess I'll wait till your flight report is posted. I don't think anyone has flown one yet. I have a problem with the P/P wires on the elevator. P/P on the rudder is OK if you have a failure, there is a good chance you can still get on the ground. I prefer dual rods on the elevator with dual servos. ( I like some redundancy on a $3000 plane ). That P/P lever for the elevator is a turn-off for me.
Regards
Steve
P.S. I think that weathering thing is personal.
I guess I'll wait till your flight report is posted. I don't think anyone has flown one yet. I have a problem with the P/P wires on the elevator. P/P on the rudder is OK if you have a failure, there is a good chance you can still get on the ground. I prefer dual rods on the elevator with dual servos. ( I like some redundancy on a $3000 plane ). That P/P lever for the elevator is a turn-off for me.
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Steve
P.S. I think that weathering thing is personal.
01-13-2011, 12:23 PM
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I am assembling one as well, and you have a supporter here at factory level prefering carbon Fiber control rods with 440 metal clevis clamped controling my surfaces. That is a personal choice to accept in general what the Chinese offer with the model and use your experience as a modeler to improve what is offered. Your plane will only fly as well as it's weakest link. What makes me nervous is the down and left thrust on the engine tube. I have discarded the tube and are re-engineering the mounting of the engine for a Saito 450 install. Craig from down under has already gone through it and changed the angles to 2 degrees right thrust, but has removed the down thrust from the model. I will be anxious to see some of you other resourceful richer than I guys fly your plane first for the reports. I believe someone said there is positive incidence in the wing. Well, Is that the reason for the down thrust...? All I know, is that I have been modeling a long while now and I never have seen a plane with left thrust on the engine mount, it feels wrong.
01-13-2011, 01:23 PM
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DB,
Yours looks awesome man...........What can I say? She looks like she's been in the Pacific theater for about 3 years sitting out in that hot humid sun and just baking. She's already been to war and back with about 200 sorties and still lives to fight another day...........
Steve,
My honest opinion is, this is one nice Corsair. Reports are, that it flies very stable and is a piece of cake to land. Out of the box, it looks awesome! Very impressive!
NOW! the down side.............I've talked with only two builders so far that have actually built and flown this particular bent wing bi*ch............Both builders have said it is not an easy build and they changed some stuff, such as the pull pull elev and the tube used to mount the engine etc and some of the hardware wasn't up to their expectations.
If your not afraid of doing some mods to fit your likes and dislikes, which I'm sure your not, because I've read enough of your post to know your a good and creative builder, You would like this bird if your a Corsair fan like me. I have not started mine though, just finishing up my Top Flite P-47 also. The first thing I saw that I didn't care for when I puller her from the box the first time is the very small and flimsy looking Robart knockoff hinges they supplied. I will go to a larger Robart hinge point, I like the 309's for this size bird ...50cc, will also use carbon fiber pushrods for elev instead of the pull pull. Will also make my own beefy motor mount for the 4.2 Brison that's going in her.
SO, a few changes, but yes, definitely I like the airplane.
Yours looks awesome man...........What can I say? She looks like she's been in the Pacific theater for about 3 years sitting out in that hot humid sun and just baking. She's already been to war and back with about 200 sorties and still lives to fight another day...........
Steve,
My honest opinion is, this is one nice Corsair. Reports are, that it flies very stable and is a piece of cake to land. Out of the box, it looks awesome! Very impressive!
NOW! the down side.............I've talked with only two builders so far that have actually built and flown this particular bent wing bi*ch............Both builders have said it is not an easy build and they changed some stuff, such as the pull pull elev and the tube used to mount the engine etc and some of the hardware wasn't up to their expectations.
If your not afraid of doing some mods to fit your likes and dislikes, which I'm sure your not, because I've read enough of your post to know your a good and creative builder, You would like this bird if your a Corsair fan like me. I have not started mine though, just finishing up my Top Flite P-47 also. The first thing I saw that I didn't care for when I puller her from the box the first time is the very small and flimsy looking Robart knockoff hinges they supplied. I will go to a larger Robart hinge point, I like the 309's for this size bird ...50cc, will also use carbon fiber pushrods for elev instead of the pull pull. Will also make my own beefy motor mount for the 4.2 Brison that's going in her.
SO, a few changes, but yes, definitely I like the airplane.
01-13-2011, 02:51 PM
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Hi Guys,
I respect all points made and when you are spending alot of dosh you have to be happy. Kniverflyer who I fly with, his son Stuey is flying the 50cc Spit which is push pull on Elev and is flying top draw and not slow at all so I will see how this goes. Test flight will have to see when we can get her up, weather and work not good.
Thanks for all the comments on the build but the paint job goes off to Ian Redshaw.
Cheers
DB
I respect all points made and when you are spending alot of dosh you have to be happy. Kniverflyer who I fly with, his son Stuey is flying the 50cc Spit which is push pull on Elev and is flying top draw and not slow at all so I will see how this goes. Test flight will have to see when we can get her up, weather and work not good.
Thanks for all the comments on the build but the paint job goes off to Ian Redshaw.
Cheers
DB
01-13-2011, 03:06 PM
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I have the new retracts from Century Jets for my ESM P-40. If you look at my thread you can see what the look like there. They are much stronger than the ESM and have air cylinders for up/down and lock. Good looking retracts for sure. My ESM ones broke on the first landing, but I did have a lose side bar which may have contributed to the break. Still, these are made from solid stock not poured and molded weak aluminum.
The fit both the P-40 and Corsair according to Tomas. Godd stuff!!!
Jeff
The fit both the P-40 and Corsair according to Tomas. Godd stuff!!!
Jeff
01-14-2011, 03:52 PM
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01-18-2011, 03:27 PM
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HI GUYS,
Did anybody read in this thread (FORUM) what engine FLY4MATION used in his ESM Corsair?
Clark, if you happen to ready this, I'm just curious about your engine choice on yours before it's demise. I was going to use a 4.2 brison, however, Larry and the boys from Birds of Prey say that's way too much motor for that bird............Just thought I'd get some feed back..
CAPTAIN RON
Did anybody read in this thread (FORUM) what engine FLY4MATION used in his ESM Corsair?
Clark, if you happen to ready this, I'm just curious about your engine choice on yours before it's demise. I was going to use a 4.2 brison, however, Larry and the boys from Birds of Prey say that's way too much motor for that bird............Just thought I'd get some feed back..
CAPTAIN RON
01-19-2011, 03:52 PM
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01-27-2011, 06:06 AM
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I have one of these I am willing to sell if anyone is interested. I got it from Ty's Planes, and I already have a full cockpit kit painted for it. The only thing that has been done to the kit is the ailerons have been hinged with the heavier Robart hinges instead of the flimsy ones that come with the kit. I haven't bought any retracts for it yet. I just have too many projects going on to work on this one right now. I also have a spare canopy for it. There isn't a scratch on it and will make a great plane.
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ORIGINAL: BobH
Yo DJ.. you gonna fly the DC3 this year?
Yo DJ.. you gonna fly the DC3 this year?
I'm just now seeing this. Yes Sir, she'll be flyin' this year. I'm gonna maiden her and 4 others on the same day: DC-3, ESM Robin, ESM V35, ESM DO335, and a T-33 turbine. I put my ESM Corsair build on hold since these planes arrived.
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01-28-2011, 07:11 AM
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I have one of these I am willing to sell if anyone is interested. I got it from Ty's Planes, and I already have a full cockpit kit painted for it. The only thing that has been done to the kit is the ailerons have been hinged with the heavier Robart hinges instead of the flimsy ones that come with the kit. I haven't bought any retracts for it yet. I just have too many projects going on to work on this one right now. I also have a spare canopy for it. There isn't a scratch on it and will make a great plane.
I have one of these I am willing to sell if anyone is interested. I got it from Ty's Planes, and I already have a full cockpit kit painted for it. The only thing that has been done to the kit is the ailerons have been hinged with the heavier Robart hinges instead of the flimsy ones that come with the kit. I haven't bought any retracts for it yet. I just have too many projects going on to work on this one right now. I also have a spare canopy for it. There isn't a scratch on it and will make a great plane.
[link]http://tysplanes.com/esm_50cc_corsair[/link]
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RE: ESM 50cc Corsair
Aaah how cute, but is it ESM Corsair shaped or even slightly relevant to this thread, I think not. Very nice though
Has anyone got video of the Corsair yet?
Ian.
Has anyone got video of the Corsair yet?
Ian.
