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Old 07-06-2014, 08:16 PM
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Ron, is that with fuel? Any extras like pilot and cockpit kit? How much nose weight did you need?

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Old 07-06-2014, 08:52 PM
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I should have mentioned, I used the Robart 150 retracts which are a bit larger and heavier than the Robart 148's that most guys use. So, that accounts for some of the dead weight.
Old 07-06-2014, 08:58 PM
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LBJ, after my first full assembly, I noticed the horizontal stab is lower on one side by an inch. Yikes. The stab is strait but fuselage or something is crooked. If I twist the tail section a half-inch it brings the stab/elevators level to a flat service.

Is yours like this?

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Old 07-07-2014, 05:02 AM
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Jim, I guess I'd need a photo to be sure what you got. Mine all came out pretty much according to how it was supposed to.
Old 07-07-2014, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LBJ
jimkron, my F4U with FG-84 is 34 pounds. Haven't flown yet, but that's getting a bit heavy on 1,5XX sq inches. It will fly fine, but takeoffs and landings must be handled correctly. A bit of wind is hoped for, right down the runway. Ha. . . .
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LBJ,
I've been watching the TFGS-Corsair thread for several years and it looks like there are many of those are flying at 30-36# all tricked out using G62's, Robart 148's and the tiny 4 1/2" wheels.
Your ESM should fly fine!
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:42 AM
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jimkron......Yikes.....I miss spoke. I'm on a couple of these forums and I had just been on the FW 190 forum.....It's 28lbs. Sorry for the confusion. Hell no, the ESM F4U is 31.5 lbs. Although I really enjoy flying it, I hate landing it. I don't seem to get the speed right. BTW........She took 3lbs of lead in the nose to balance the fat little bit*h.

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Old 07-08-2014, 04:43 PM
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I am looking to buy one more of these corsairs .Brand New to poor condition....If anyone has one for sale, I would be interested...My midsection is shot...That would be the most important part...All else can have problems...Please let me know...Thanks
Old 07-08-2014, 06:23 PM
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Keep looking for the used Corsair. One will turn up sooner or later.

The Fort Worth newspaper came out on July 5th for our club 4th of July picnic. They wanted to hear what we had to say about the FAA wanting to regulate our hobby. Our club Prez was interviewed on the video on the end of the article. A few good warbird photos are with the article too.

This is the link to the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrl9q5uMsHw

This is the link to the article. If the above link doesn't work, the link below has the video attached. The last part of the video is "yours truly" starting up the CMP Zero.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/07...le-making.html
Old 07-08-2014, 09:41 PM
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Thanks Ron for the clarification. The way my plane has been constructed nothing surprises me anymore. As I mentioned to LBJ I now have a crooked tail. The horizontal and vertical stabs are perpendicular as they should be but the fuselage is twisted slightly causing one vertical stab to be higher than the other by 3/4 inch. Yikes, not acceptable.

Tonight I heated up the fuselage near the tail with a heat gun and was able to get some of the twist out of the plane. Jeeeez. Really?
Can't wait to leave it in the sun for a few hours. Will the plane just melt?

jim
Old 07-09-2014, 04:16 AM
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Jim
I have the same problem with my ESM Spitfire. Everything in the tail is aligned but the whole thing is twisted about 3/4". It has flown great for several years now and the only people that see it is if I show it to them. It still annoys me though.
Old 07-09-2014, 10:06 PM
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Paging all Saito fg57 owners.
How big is your gas tank? I like to fly for 8-10 minutes....not 12-15 like some. What would be a proper size tank?
Old 07-13-2014, 11:53 AM
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YO my ESM Corsair Brethern........Flew the big girl today with Larry (My wing repair dude) standing next to me. Yes sir........We put her to work. Diving out of altitude to the runway for a WOT pass down the runway and then a hard pull for blue sky again at the other end. The repair held......whew..!!!!! Had flap control rod break on the first landing approach. Only one set of flaps were down and she was trying her damndest to flip over. I realized what was going on ......Hit the flap switch and came to half throttle on the Brison. ONce the good set of flaps were up, went to full throttle and did a go around. Made the next approach with no flaps. touched down about 60 mph and rolled the full length of our 550 ft runway. Down safe..........taxi back, shut the big brison down and enjoy the moment. God I love this hobby.

later boys, Captain Ron
Old 07-13-2014, 08:55 PM
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Congrats Ron....any video?
Old 07-14-2014, 06:01 AM
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Thanks Jimkron, LOL.........unfortunately no video. Our video guy is Larry Osborn and he happens to be the very same dude that repaired my wing. So, he was standing next to me holding his breath also that the wing repair would hold and we weren't going to see a VERY SPECTACULAR CRASH. When I fly that F4U with that mighty 4.2 Brison, I fly WOT the whole flight and I'm pulling hard and diving for the runway the whole flight and having an absolute ball..........THAT'S WHY I FLY WARBIRDS. l wanna go fast and hear the very very loud bark of that Brison.

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Old 07-17-2014, 06:29 PM
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This is for all you finished builders.

So I'm getting ready to position the Saito FG 57 twin on the firewall. I noticed that the position of the cowl is somewhat arbitrary. Did your cowls cover both rows of rivets on the front of the fuselage, one row of rivets, or expose both rows of rivets? I'm tempted to move the cowl as far forward on the plane (and still have it look right) rather than push the cowl towards the canopy. This way the engine sits farther away from the firewall and helps reduce the nose weight needed to balance the plane.

Am I over-thinking this?

jim

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Old 07-17-2014, 07:30 PM
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Jim, with the cowl farther forward, you have a bit more exit air area around the rear of the cowl. You may not need it so much on the FG-57, but never hurts to have good cooling air flow.
Old 07-17-2014, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LBJ
Jim, with the cowl farther forward, you have a bit more exit air area around the rear of the cowl. You may not need it so much on the FG-57, but never hurts to have good cooling air flow.
Agreed...another benefit of cowl forward. My intention is to move the rx batts, ignition, ignition batt, and anything else into the cowl area. Not sure if it's possible but I don't want to put 3 lbs of nose weight in this plane. I'm going with the 16 oz tank and 4.5 Robart wheels to save a few ounces here and there as well.

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Old 07-18-2014, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jimkron
Agreed...another benefit of cowl forward. My intention is to move the rx batts, ignition, ignition batt, and anything else into the cowl area. Not sure if it's possible but I don't want to put 3 lbs of nose weight in this plane. I'm going with the 16 oz tank and 4.5 Robart wheels to save a few ounces here and there as well.

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Jim, I agree with your efforts too. The cowl as far forward as possible, without ruining the outline.

-More exit area.
-Less weight up front.

Batteries; Since I made 2 hatches in the scale location on the cowling, I have full access to the batteries, even though they are both put into the front area of the cowling.

Each battery, LiFe 2500 mAh batteries, weights 160 g, so that is 320 g up front !!!
Old 07-18-2014, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kwik
Jim, I agree with your efforts too. The cowl as far forward as possible, without ruining the outline.

-More exit area.
-Less weight up front.

Batteries; Since I made 2 hatches in the scale location on the cowling, I have full access to the batteries, even though they are both put into the front area of the cowling.

Each battery, LiFe 2500 mAh batteries, weights 160 g, so that is 320 g up front !!!
Good idea. I'm considering the same 2 hatches. I put 2 small servos in the tail for elevator control plus I added a full cockpit kit and pilot...so balance & weight might be a issue. I'm open to any ideas that move weight forward.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
Keep looking for the used Corsair. One will turn up sooner or later.

The Fort Worth newspaper came out on July 5th for our club 4th of July picnic. They wanted to hear what we had to say about the FAA wanting to regulate our hobby. Our club Prez was interviewed on the video on the end of the article. A few good warbird photos are with the article too.

This is the link to the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrl9q5uMsHw

This is the link to the article. If the above link doesn't work, the link below has the video attached. The last part of the video is "yours truly" starting up the CMP Zero.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/07...le-making.html
Looks like that dead P-40 is in the way for your taxi to the runway.
Nice video buddy!
Old 07-18-2014, 08:17 AM
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Could someone with the center hatch switch setup sent me a template of the round cover. I lost my cover somehow and I need to make another.
Old 07-19-2014, 05:01 PM
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Sunday July 20, MAY be the maiden voyage of my Corsair. If all things look good in the morning, I'll give her a shot down the runway. Winds are forecast to be 153 Degrees (SSE) down our runway which is 160 Degrees. And less than 10 mph. I'll let you know how she goes.
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Good luck bro. I'm sure you wont need it. You are well prepared.
Enjoy.

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Old 07-20-2014, 02:14 PM
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Cosmo21, just got home from the field. Get her Maidened and back in one piece. Thanks for the encouragement. I did opt to let one of our expert pilots fly her first because I had built up the 35 pound weight a bit much in my mind. And as it turns out, she flew easy as pie. Sonny C flew for me because he's got a 72 pound FW-190 that he has flown a number of times, so he's used to Heavy planes! Ha. He made a couple of nose up trim changes with the gear down as she was a bit heavy, but when he pulled the gear up, it zoomed on him. So, on rotating retracts, the CG shifts to the aft with the gear up. He flew about 5 minutes and trimmed her up and landed. Very nice first flight. A bit later, I went ahead and flew with no problems at all. She's very easy to fly and that Radial sounded great, for sure. Had several photographers and movies takers, so I expect to have some video and pics in a day or two, or maybe sooner.
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