Giant Bf-109E kits
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
Yup, that's awesome. I've got a set of 80" Aeronautica plans for the Emil ready to build off of too. Aside from the airfoil being thicker than scale, it's a pretty accurate set, and it looks like it would build into a pretty light model with gas power. I've not seen the IMP/Baskin plans, but I would imagine them to be a little sparse on details in a lot of areas, unlike the Aeronautica ones which (if you are good at reading German) include about everything you could want. Getting a kit cut from the Aeronautica plans would be quite doable, but I'm likely to cut the thing myself when I eventually build it. My smaller Skyshark Emil was a good flyer...slowed way down on landing and was very stable on approach, but pretty dicey to get airborne...bigger wheels and wingspan helps to solve that problem though.
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
Its an ARF, and its an F model, not an E, but Easytiger Models has a huge sale on their Me109 right now. I have not seen it up close, but I have the Focke Wulf and like it a lot. Maybe this helps. That Hobby Hangar one is really nice! The Meister Scale one is very nice, if you have not see that one, its really scale, it came from the model that Pat Mccurry used to win at Top Gun.
06-11-2010, 04:06 PM
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That's beautiful TShark! What engine did you use in there?
That's beautiful TShark! What engine did you use in there?
06-11-2010, 04:18 PM
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Yes Fokke's Emil is absolutely stunning no doubt, not sure about availability though? I think its still a work in progress....
''True'' 1/5 scale is about the perfect size I reckon for the Emil and needs to be 80'' + span in my opinion to offer better ground handling on the grass. The currently available smaller ESM 109E is closer to 1/6 scale, nice but a little to small for me....
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If you really want one ask Fokke
He is developing one, look here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5311706/tm.htm
If you really want one ask Fokke
He is developing one, look here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5311706/tm.htm
Yes Fokke's Emil is absolutely stunning no doubt, not sure about availability though? I think its still a work in progress....
''True'' 1/5 scale is about the perfect size I reckon for the Emil and needs to be 80'' + span in my opinion to offer better ground handling on the grass. The currently available smaller ESM 109E is closer to 1/6 scale, nice but a little to small for me....
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ESM and KMP are really leading the way with their larger warbird offerings
ESM and KMP are really leading the way with their larger warbird offerings
Cheers,
Fearless.
06-11-2010, 09:39 PM
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Put me down as a fan of the E. As I recall Jeff was at one time going to kit his plane, but I guess that didn't pan out. I'd like an Emil the same scale (1-5.3) as my Hurricanes! Those from the time of the Battle of Britian were awesome in both colors and markings.
Sam
Put me down as a fan of the E. As I recall Jeff was at one time going to kit his plane, but I guess that didn't pan out. I'd like an Emil the same scale (1-5.3) as my Hurricanes! Those from the time of the Battle of Britian were awesome in both colors and markings.
Sam
Hi Sam and others.....
Thanks for the kind words regarding my 109E. I never really pursued doing a kit of the airplane due to lack of time and more so...lack of builders. As the ARF age developed and the base of modelers who actually like to build diminished, I didn't really think there would be enough interest to put the time into it. I still have the basic drawings and tooling....and am in fact building another one to replace the one that won at Top Gun and the Nats. That one fell victim to a bad RX crystal (things of the past!) after 8 years of flying. It's hard to get across to people how well that model flew. If you stand back and look at it, the moments are like a pattern plane. I ran the CG well forward and used a force arrangement that made the tail fly high like a 109 should.....and the airfoils were close to scale shape, but very forgiving. The root was a NACA 2412 and the tip a Clark Y with 2 degrees of washout.
Most people don't know that my 109 is the only single engine WW2 fighter to win Mr. Top Gun (twice!) It also won Master Class at TG five times, Pro am once and US NAts five times.....and the only reason I mention that is to praise the design and how well it performed. Willy knew airplanes.
06-12-2010, 08:13 AM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
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The ESM is about 1/5,3 scale
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Yes Fokke's Emil is absolutely stunning no doubt, not sure about availability though? I think its still a work in progress....
''True'' 1/5 scale is about the perfect size I reckon for the Emil and needs to be 80'' + span in my opinion to offer better ground handling on the grass. The currently available smaller ESM 109E is closer to 1/6 scale, nice but a little to small for me....
ORIGINAL: vik
If you really want one ask Fokke
He is developing one, look here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5311706/tm.htm
If you really want one ask Fokke
He is developing one, look here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5311706/tm.htm
Yes Fokke's Emil is absolutely stunning no doubt, not sure about availability though? I think its still a work in progress....
''True'' 1/5 scale is about the perfect size I reckon for the Emil and needs to be 80'' + span in my opinion to offer better ground handling on the grass. The currently available smaller ESM 109E is closer to 1/6 scale, nice but a little to small for me....
Thats why I reckon 1/5 (exact) would be better, and slightly larger too... Ideally for me it would need to be over 80" W/S regardless
06-12-2010, 08:20 AM
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Hi Sam and others.....
Thanks for the kind words regarding my 109E. I never really pursued doing a kit of the airplane due to lack of time and more so...lack of builders. As the ARF age developed and the base of modelers who actually like to build diminished, I didn't really think there would be enough interest to put the time into it. I still have the basic drawings and tooling....and am in fact building another one to replace the one that won at Top Gun and the Nats. That one fell victim to a bad RX crystal (things of the past!) after 8 years of flying. It's hard to get across to people how well that model flew. If you stand back and look at it, the moments are like a pattern plane. I ran the CG well forward and used a force arrangement that made the tail fly high like a 109 should.....and the airfoils were close to scale shape, but very forgiving. The root was a NACA 2412 and the tip a Clark Y with 2 degrees of washout.
Most people don't know that my 109 is the only single engine WW2 fighter to win Mr. Top Gun (twice!) It also won Master Class at TG five times, Pro am once and US NAts five times.....and the only reason I mention that is to praise the design and how well it performed. Willy knew airplanes.
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Put me down as a fan of the E. As I recall Jeff was at one time going to kit his plane, but I guess that didn't pan out. I'd like an Emil the same scale (1-5.3) as my Hurricanes! Those from the time of the Battle of Britian were awesome in both colors and markings.
Sam
Put me down as a fan of the E. As I recall Jeff was at one time going to kit his plane, but I guess that didn't pan out. I'd like an Emil the same scale (1-5.3) as my Hurricanes! Those from the time of the Battle of Britian were awesome in both colors and markings.
Sam
Hi Sam and others.....
Thanks for the kind words regarding my 109E. I never really pursued doing a kit of the airplane due to lack of time and more so...lack of builders. As the ARF age developed and the base of modelers who actually like to build diminished, I didn't really think there would be enough interest to put the time into it. I still have the basic drawings and tooling....and am in fact building another one to replace the one that won at Top Gun and the Nats. That one fell victim to a bad RX crystal (things of the past!) after 8 years of flying. It's hard to get across to people how well that model flew. If you stand back and look at it, the moments are like a pattern plane. I ran the CG well forward and used a force arrangement that made the tail fly high like a 109 should.....and the airfoils were close to scale shape, but very forgiving. The root was a NACA 2412 and the tip a Clark Y with 2 degrees of washout.
Most people don't know that my 109 is the only single engine WW2 fighter to win Mr. Top Gun (twice!) It also won Master Class at TG five times, Pro am once and US NAts five times.....and the only reason I mention that is to praise the design and how well it performed. Willy knew airplanes.
Hi Jeff, Your right about doing a kit v ARF popularity nowadays... It use to be the cost saving that made the kit route an attractive alternative, that and scale fidelity. I think moulded kits are the future especially with the advance of composite materials its the way to go when producing anything less than full ARF these days...
By the way what were the specs on your Emil? Size wise for me yours is just about perfect in my opinion.
Cheers- Marty
06-12-2010, 08:28 AM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
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Hi Marty,I'm not sure mate,but I believe that Troy Built Models is the ESM agent in the States now,not KMP.
Cheers,
Fearless.
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ESM and KMP are really leading the way with their larger warbird offerings
ESM and KMP are really leading the way with their larger warbird offerings
Cheers,
Fearless.
Yes two different companies, two different products. KMP are also offering some mighty fine and different larger ARF warbirds, you never know maybe KMP will do a 109E ARF
06-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
Jeff,
Have you considered offering your Bf 109E plans for sale? Canopies and retracts are now much easier to come by for a 109 but a spinner for an Emil could be a bit tough. Any thoughts?
Al
Have you considered offering your Bf 109E plans for sale? Canopies and retracts are now much easier to come by for a 109 but a spinner for an Emil could be a bit tough. Any thoughts?
Al
06-12-2010, 10:46 PM
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Hi Jeff, Your right about doing a kit v ARF popularity nowadays... It use to be the cost saving that made the kit route an attractive alternative, that and scale fidelity. I think moulded kits are the future especially with the advance of composite materials its the way to go when producing anything less than full ARF these days...
By the way what were the specs on your Emil? Size wise for me yours is just about perfect in my opinion.
Cheers- Marty
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Hi Marty,
The scale on my 109 is 1/4.5 yielding a span of a little over 86". Decent sized, but still transportable with a one piece wing.
Hi Al,
I really don't have any formal plans....just the working drawings that I built from and that only I understand. They wouldn't do much good anyway since it was a glass fuse. I started drawing a wood fuse, but that is a long way from being completed. I have the mold that I laid up my fuselage from, but it has a lot of mistakes in it and I wouldn't want to sell any parts made out of it. I have thought about carving a new pattern and making a mold....but if I do that, I would like to make it a bit larger since most competition bird are 100" plus now a days.
and Jeff... My spinner is a glass shell that I laid up from a mold that I made. I had a friend turn an aluminum backplate for me and I just put screws through the shell into the aluminum flange on the backplate. It is a pain to change the prop since you have to remove six screws....but it is the easiest way to go. The pictures below show the backplate, shaft extension and my static prop spinner shell. The flying shell is identical except for the prop cutouts and the screws around the flange perimeter. Laying up the spinner shell is not a big deal.....making the backplate is another story unless you are so equipped. The diameter of the rear face of the spinner is a shade over 5 1/2".
If only I didn't have to work for a living, I could get some modeling done!
06-12-2010, 11:57 PM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
If I was going to build an 1/5 or larger Emil from plans, Iam guessing a set of enlarged Brian Taylor plans would likely yield a pretty nice example. Spinner and canopy you would have to fabricate yourself- https://www.traplet.com/product.aspx?c=2934
01-27-2011, 10:18 AM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
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That Bf109E is really sweet looking. Question. I tried to Google Hobby Hangar to see if I could get one and I can't find it. Found many different Hobby Hangars, but not with a 109. Do you have a Web Site, Phone #, any contact information?
Thanks
That Bf109E is really sweet looking. Question. I tried to Google Hobby Hangar to see if I could get one and I can't find it. Found many different Hobby Hangars, but not with a 109. Do you have a Web Site, Phone #, any contact information?
Thanks
01-27-2011, 11:35 PM
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RE: Giant Bf-109E kits
Heres more on Rumen's (Fokke RC) beautiful Emil for those interested- http://fokkerc.flugmodel.net/bf109.html
10-20-2016, 08:39 AM
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Anyone know what engine Jeff used on his Bf-109E? cheers - ken
Hi Marty,
The scale on my 109 is 1/4.5 yielding a span of a little over 86". Decent sized, but still transportable with a one piece wing.
Hi Al,
I really don't have any formal plans....just the working drawings that I built from and that only I understand. They wouldn't do much good anyway since it was a glass fuse. I started drawing a wood fuse, but that is a long way from being completed. I have the mold that I laid up my fuselage from, but it has a lot of mistakes in it and I wouldn't want to sell any parts made out of it. I have thought about carving a new pattern and making a mold....but if I do that, I would like to make it a bit larger since most competition bird are 100" plus now a days.
and Jeff... My spinner is a glass shell that I laid up from a mold that I made. I had a friend turn an aluminum backplate for me and I just put screws through the shell into the aluminum flange on the backplate. It is a pain to change the prop since you have to remove six screws....but it is the easiest way to go. The pictures below show the backplate, shaft extension and my static prop spinner shell. The flying shell is identical except for the prop cutouts and the screws around the flange perimeter. Laying up the spinner shell is not a big deal.....making the backplate is another story unless you are so equipped. The diameter of the rear face of the spinner is a shade over 5 1/2".
If only I didn't have to work for a living, I could get some modeling done![/QUOTE]
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Anyone know what engine Jeff used on his Bf-109E? cheers - ken
Hi Jeff, Your right about doing a kit v ARF popularity nowadays... It use to be the cost saving that made the kit route an attractive alternative, that and scale fidelity. I think moulded kits are the future especially with the advance of composite materials its the way to go when producing anything less than full ARF these days...
By the way what were the specs on your Emil? Size wise for me yours is just about perfect in my opinion.
Cheers- Marty
By the way what were the specs on your Emil? Size wise for me yours is just about perfect in my opinion.
Cheers- Marty
The scale on my 109 is 1/4.5 yielding a span of a little over 86". Decent sized, but still transportable with a one piece wing.
Hi Al,
I really don't have any formal plans....just the working drawings that I built from and that only I understand. They wouldn't do much good anyway since it was a glass fuse. I started drawing a wood fuse, but that is a long way from being completed. I have the mold that I laid up my fuselage from, but it has a lot of mistakes in it and I wouldn't want to sell any parts made out of it. I have thought about carving a new pattern and making a mold....but if I do that, I would like to make it a bit larger since most competition bird are 100" plus now a days.
and Jeff... My spinner is a glass shell that I laid up from a mold that I made. I had a friend turn an aluminum backplate for me and I just put screws through the shell into the aluminum flange on the backplate. It is a pain to change the prop since you have to remove six screws....but it is the easiest way to go. The pictures below show the backplate, shaft extension and my static prop spinner shell. The flying shell is identical except for the prop cutouts and the screws around the flange perimeter. Laying up the spinner shell is not a big deal.....making the backplate is another story unless you are so equipped. The diameter of the rear face of the spinner is a shade over 5 1/2".
If only I didn't have to work for a living, I could get some modeling done![/QUOTE]
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Anyone know what engine Jeff used on his Bf-109E? cheers - ken
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10-21-2016, 05:54 PM
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My 80 inch ME109 built from enlarged Guillows 18 inch rubber band kit... Sort of on topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEENSnHrUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEENSnHrUNE
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