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tuskegee 06-04-2014 07:30 PM

WOW..:eek:...And lets reset:cool:. And How is your day...?

Ramstein44 06-04-2014 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Nicastro (Post 11817716)
Hysol is an aerospace grade of epoxy so in fact its better than traditional hobby epoxy, so, anyway, fyi...

See, this is what I meant to say... Well said!!:cool: Now......Lets get back on topic..If possible.:o

BJ64 06-05-2014 12:07 AM

I've often wondered about Hysol.

It ain't cheap, IIRC - but a lot of people seem to use it where an extra-stregth epoxy is required.

Like gluing the turbine blades together in a Change Sun CS 12 blader when they up the LiPo & RPM to ensure they don't explode at increased max revs :eek:

I have also read that it's a bit 'stiffer', and won't run everywhere as easily as "normal" epoxy does.

Must get some one day and see what all the fuss is about... ;)

BJ:)

dmyers0403 06-05-2014 04:34 AM

I use Hysol a lot but Hysol has its certain application for fillits, voids etc but is not for everything. Thinner better penetrating epoxies should be used where tighter joints, clamping are needed etc.

Lifer 06-05-2014 04:44 AM

Who retails Hysol?

tuskegee 06-05-2014 04:51 AM

I get mine from Grainger. But I will check. It is pricey but they have all lot of different types for different projects.

sparky4lawndart 06-05-2014 06:04 AM

Aircraft Spruce sells T88 structural adhesive. It's the epoxy that folks that build real planes with. Been using it for years!

Lifer 06-05-2014 06:30 AM

sparky,

Thanks! I'll look into it. Bye the way, I build "real" airplanes, too. They just don't carry me.

Ramstein44 06-05-2014 06:41 AM

Here is where I get mine.

http://www.altecare.com/toolshysol.htm

sparky4lawndart 06-05-2014 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Lifer (Post 11817960)
sparky,

Thanks! I'll look into it. Bye the way, I build "real" airplanes, too. They just don't carry me.

OMG! I should have said "full size". LOL

Ron Stahl 06-05-2014 08:10 AM

As an alternative to Hyso;l I have used West systems 610. Its about 20$ for a tube that fits into a std caulking gun and gives you about 4 times the amount of epoxy over Hysol. You can get it at any West Marine shop or Jamestown Distributers on the web. The only down side is since it is a larger tube you can't get it inside some places.

sparky4lawndart 06-08-2014 12:36 PM

So I go out today with my TF GS FW190 and see that I have a leak in the tank. I pull it apart and see that the seam in split so I ask around and low and behold one of my buddies has the same size tank sitting in his truck bed... They look identical so I plumb the new tank in and all is well... First flight it runs lean and stalls after 2 minutes so I dead stick it in and everything is okay... I richen the High end a bit (1/8 turn) and fuel up, air up, and go fly with a buddy of mine, Tim Cardin, with his "Man o War" P51... formation flying, loops on the dead line, military rolls less than 40 feet apart.. It was great. My timer on my radio goes off (2 minute warning) and then the engine quits 50 feet up the run way dead line and 20 feet off the deck... drop the gear, fly over 500 feet of runway and land in the weeds... cart wheel tears the wing off the fuse and breaks one horizontal stab in half and wrecks another $35 Zoar 22X10...

I'm soo bummed... I'm going to be in repair mode for a few days.

vertical grimmace 06-08-2014 12:45 PM

If it were me, I would not mount my servos to the hatch! I mount my servos in rails in the wing, then use the hatch for access. Vibration is going to cause you to lose screws. I am sure this is how the Arf was engineered, but it is not the best method for an airplane this size. I am sure this will be too much work for some though.

ticketec 06-09-2014 02:32 AM

BJ,

You can get Hysol from either DA Australia, or intairco here in Oz.

Not cheap, but very very good. A word of warning, I use it when building my Jet's and over time the hysol shrinks a little more than when it was first set. I means that it can put the glass around the joint a little making the bulkhead outline and glue joint visible from the outside of the model.... just the tinyest of shrink, but on a glossy model, It sticks out.

Thanks
dave

BJ64 06-10-2014 12:48 AM

Ta TT ;)

I think I've seen/heard of it being sold somewhere around here too...

BJ:)

vertical grimmace 06-10-2014 10:21 AM

A fellow club member was flying his FW 190 last night. He had all but given up on trying to land it without the ground loop. In fact he offed to sell it to me! Well, as a last try, he put in toe-out. It worked great. He had 2 very nice landings, with good control. Just though I would pass this along as I witnessed it last night. Anyone having problems may give this a try.

BobH 06-10-2014 05:05 PM

Maybe thats why the full scale FW had toe out :)

Chris Nicastro 06-10-2014 06:03 PM

Go to McMaster Carr and look up Hysol. They have a good product page that shows the different kinds and general apps.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#loctite-hysol/=scs4mc

I use 9462 usually.

FlyRoswell 06-11-2014 12:58 PM

Subd

kwik 06-11-2014 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by BobH (Post 11821387)
Maybe thats why the full scale FW had toe out :)

It did?

Hot Rod Todd 06-13-2014 11:49 AM

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After a dozen posts about Hysol I think we need to see a good flyin' photo!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2004713

ptdan 06-13-2014 12:06 PM

Very very Nice picture...

BJ64 06-13-2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Rod Todd (Post 11823150)
After a dozen posts about Hysol I think we need to see a good flyin' photo!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2004713

There's a few "toe out" ones in amongst the Hysol ones too :p

But ditto - lovely pic ;)

That's the one you did all the rivet work on, yah?

BJ:)

p51fw190f4u 06-18-2014 06:24 AM

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my fw190.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2006424http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2006425http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2006426

cubarican323 06-18-2014 08:10 AM

Sucks to hear the fw went down. Do you still have that esm twin engine I sold you?


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