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dasintex 02-12-2013 11:47 AM

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If you did use a retractable Tail Wheel, which would be lighter: Pnuematic Retract or Mechanical retract with Servo mounted up front?

invertmast 02-12-2013 02:07 PM

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The retracting tailwheel really kills the 190's balance!

With the 1/5 sierra unit, getting rid of 2/3 the weight of the tailwheel by going to a non retracting version (essentiall saving 3-4oz of weight) gets rid of nearly 1 pound of necessary nose weight.


I have been thinking of doing another 190 and have been eye balling the meister 190D with the glass fuse...

Ramstein44 02-12-2013 02:15 PM

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Who makes a scale non-retracting tail wheel for planes of this class?

invertmast 02-12-2013 02:42 PM

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No one that i know of, most all that i have seen have been scratch builds.

Ramstein44 02-12-2013 03:23 PM

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Now that I think of it, Lenny over at Shindinmachine.com, makes a really nice non-retracting tail wheel. I actually have it on my Holman FW190. Here is the same version but retracting, they're identical.

vertical grimmace 02-12-2013 04:38 PM

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It has been stated by David Andersen that as it pertains to the TA 152 H, the tail wheel did not retract on the models delivered for service. It seems they had problems getting them to operate properly. I am not sure where he saw this documented, but he said he has it! So, this may be a saving grace for this aircraft anyway, and now you guys have me thinking that I may omit my retractable tail wheel.

dasintex 02-12-2013 05:37 PM

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Just need to find a source and method for a Non-retracting Tail Wheel for the FW190 and in particular the TF Model; that one from Shindinmachine looks promising.

invertmast 02-12-2013 07:02 PM

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I have read it was fairly common practice for the retracting tail-wheel to be disabled late in the war due to the increased complexity and decreased supplies. Unless you just absolutely HAVE to have it (or can lose the weight in the tail during the build to make up for it) i would highly recommend to do away with the retracting tail-wheel. that said though, it is pretty cool!

OVSS Boss 02-12-2013 07:54 PM

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One thing to remember on the 152 vs. the 190's, the 152 tailwheel was hydraulically operated and not in the old cable and pulley sytem of the A/D/F. I am guessing that there were lots of issues all around with this stuff on the 152, in reading it sounded like lots of things never quite worked as advertised, at least in what Willie Riesh (sp) wrote in his book.

I must admit that on my current and first 190, I cannot imagine not having the rear retract on board. I will say I bought a wheel from Dino that saved me an ounce off my original, so I will be thankful for that.

Marc

SrTelemaster150 02-12-2013 08:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: dasintex

If you did use a retractable Tail Wheel, which would be lighter: Pnuematic Retract or Mechanical retract with Servo mounted up front?

There is also the option of using the electric retract & mounting the acuator up front where the servo would be.

Ramstein44 02-13-2013 10:00 PM

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Here is my ESM flip that I pulled out tonight to add more details to from Fighteraces.co.uk. They sell 1/5th scale decals and paint mask which are awesome. It has Sierra retracts all around (I was the first to install them:D) and a air opperated canopy. She's painted in latex paints.

I maidened her in her original colors, then went this route.

What are the best weathering techniques used you gents here?

Dowmer 02-14-2013 05:55 AM

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Ram,
I figured you'd be the expert on weathering etc....:D  All I can say is what works for me.  I use Laytex also and it is great because if you are using gas motors you don't have to have a clear coat to fuel proof.  I do sometimes add a clear matte coat just to protect the finish and dull it down. 

I typically lay down all my colors first, then darken the main colors one to two shades darker and highlight the panels and rivets with a touch-up gun.  This really is hard to tell later after all the other washes etc, but adds that dimention that just adds another realistic factor that sometimes you can't quite put your finger on.  Tom pierce I think documents some of this.  I know you are familiar with his work.  Great reference.

I'll then make a wash with black and some brown.  I mix real watery and then wipe it all over.  I then go back with a paper towl and wipe off as necessary to get the right "look".  I always wipe with the correct flow. Front to back for wings and top down for fuse. Most gets wiped off except in the cracks etc. If it starts drying up, just add more water and keep wiping.  I also use the rock salt method for chipping.  I'll use some light 300 or 500 grit paper and run it over all the rivets and panels.  They will wear and highlight.  Looks great if done correctly.  Avoid doing this earlier when are riveting when it leaves a little lip.  The most I do is just run my hand over the rivets to knock down anything loose and save the rest for sandpaper when weathering.  You want this to sand off later to give you the wear that you see with paint coming off.  Use pastel chalks for some more grime if you want.  Lastly add the exhaust stains.  Don't go too black unless the documentation shows black.  Most was a greyish white at the hot point darkening to a brownish black as it feathered away on the edges.  Lighter is better....Less is more...Blah, Blah, Blah

I think you know all this but it works for me and therre are other methods that work better for other people.  If anyone else can benefit from it then I'm glad I could help.

Jason

Dowmer 02-14-2013 06:14 AM

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Ram,
How would you rate the ESM D9 ARF for Scaleness and flyability? 

Jason

Ramstein44 02-14-2013 07:25 AM

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I think overall, it's a very nice model all around. It looks good and flies great. Quite possible the best looking ARF FW190 I've seen and it has a lot of potential! Let's just say, I see another in my hanger soon more modified.:)

Thanks for the weathering information. I do the same methods but I met a guy who used a #2 pencil on his details and wiped them off with amazing results. I know there are other methods out there..

Working diligently to get this ready for the RC event were having at the museum on the 23rd.

kahloq 02-14-2013 07:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: Dowmer

Ram,
How would you rate the ESM D9 ARF for Scaleness and flyability?

Jason
I can also attest to the flyability of the ESM D9. Mine weighs 24 pounds or so and its flies like a dream.

BJ64 02-17-2013 07:53 PM

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Re Weathering...

There's an effect used oin small static scale models - sparingly apply a little silver paint here and there with a small fine brush, particularly around and along on the 'wearing edges' of control surfaces, wings etc. This simulates the paint peeling off and exposing the underlying metal.

Silver and other colours can also be 'dry brushed' onto features like rivets, cockpit gauge screws/switches etc. If you haven't done it before, drybrushing is getting a little paint onto a small brush, then wiping most of it back off again onto a tissue etc. so there's just the barest amount of paint left on the brush hairs, then gently dabbing/stroking the brush against the raised areas you wish to highlight...

BJ:)

Chris Nicastro 02-18-2013 12:06 AM

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Simple "chipping" method is to use a piece of sponge and have two or three pieces. Tamp the silver paint on with different sponges to make the effect more random looking. Apply more or less paint as needed for effect. Rotate the sponge and change sponges often.
I used different aluminum paints but Tamiya acrylic enamel holds up well and its pretty opaque.

After chipping is applied add a layer of weathering to give the effect age but do the aging last over everything. This will give the model more depth to the finish.

ChristerL 02-18-2013 03:34 AM

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Nice thread!! Posting a few photos of my Meister Scale 1/4-scale Fw190D-9 with fiberglass fuselage, Inzpan cockpit, Sierra retracts (but fixed tail wheel) and a Zenoah 80.

Cheers!
Christer

Ramstein44 02-18-2013 08:56 AM

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Really nice!! I know a lot of people here would be interested in you Meisters specifics.. I actually had a deal with one of these recently but it fell through unfortunately.....[&o] I had hoped when Meister announced this glass fuse, there would be a gun hood option for those that wanted to do a later version.

I'm dead set on a D11..:)

invertmast 02-18-2013 02:33 PM

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My next project after the 335 is a meister fiberglass fuse Dora, ill probably do a D13 like the flying heritage collection has and convert the wing to a 3 piece (if it isnt already) so it can be transported sitting on its gear.

kahloq 02-18-2013 03:07 PM

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Just for shi..its and giggles....heres a quick vid clip of a motor test on my ESM dornier-335

http://youtu.be/_0XcOUvccDc

butlern 04-19-2013 05:49 PM

RE: Large scale Luftwaffe/Axis forum..
 
Pretty quiet here...

How about I spice it up:

P-51!!!

OVSS Boss 04-20-2013 03:52 AM

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Here are a couple of update pics of the D-9...

Marc

hrrcflyer 04-20-2013 04:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: butlern

Pretty quiet here...

How about I spice it up:

P-51!!!
Hey Noah,

You're a funny Guy......:D So when are you going to join the Dark Side? Here's another picture of my friends' T/F FW190. It was stripped, glassed and painted.

Take care,
David

invertmast 04-20-2013 05:16 AM

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1/5.3 Horten 229

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa7b726de.jpg


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