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if anyone has a question please post it
Demper Fi Mac !

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Gentlemen;

The floor is open to the first poster. I will be out of town for a few days, and can't take the lead. So, whoever has a good question, please go ahead. Thanks; Ernie P.

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This might be quick...

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...

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F-86 Sabre ?

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Not what I was thinking of

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...

3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis

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Fi 103
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_missile

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Mig-15?

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No correct answer yet.

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis

5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.

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No correct answer yet.

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis
5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.

6) the action that it saw was nowhere near territories of the nations that operated it

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F-84F?

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Noooo, not what I'm looking for.

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis
5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.
6) the action that it saw was nowhere near territories of the nations that operated it

7) between 600 and 700 were built (don't want to give a more accurate number)
8) all were single-seaters, which led to somewhat high accident rates

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b47
wrong

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<! /jumpto ><! bodycontent ><div dir="ltr" id="mw-content-text" lang="en" class="mw-content-ltr">How about this?<table class="infobox" style="text-align: left; border-spacing: 2px; width: 315px; float: right; clear: right; font-size: 90%"> <tbody> <tr> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: center; padding-bottom: 0.3em; font-size: large">Ouragan</th> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: 90%"> <div style="border-bottom: rgb(170,170,170) 1px solid; border-left: rgb(170,170,170) 1px solid; border-top: rgb(170,170,170) 1px solid; border-right: rgb(170,170,170) 1px solid"> <div class="center"> <div class="floatnone">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lt_Ouragan.jpg</div> </div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-bottom: rgb(170,170,170) 1px solid; text-align: center">A Dassault Ouragan with French Air Force markings</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Role</th> <td>Fighter-bomber</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Manufacturer</th> <td>Dassault Aviation</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Designer</th> <td>Marcel Dassault</td> </tr> <tr> <th>First flight</th> <td>28 February 1949</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Introduction</th> <td>1952</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Retired</th> <td>1980s</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Primary users</th> <td>French Air Force
Indian Air Force
Israeli Air Force
El Salvador Air Force</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

The Dassault M.D.450 Ouragan (French: <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Hurricane</span>) was the first French-designed jet fighter-bomber to enter production, playing a key role in resurgence of the French aviation industry after World War II. The Ouragan was operated by France, Israel, India and El Salvador. While in Israeli service it participated in both the Suez Crisis, Six-Day War.


Thanks,
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Still not correct, although people are in roughly the correct time period.

1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis
5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.
6) the action that it saw was nowhere near territories of the nations that operated it
7) between 600 and 700 were built (don't want to give a more accurate number)
8) all were single-seaters, which led to somewhat high accident rates

9) the action that it saw took place in central Africa (the region, not the country)

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1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis
5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.
6) the action that it saw was nowhere near territories of the nations that operated it
7) between 600 and 700 were built (don't want to give a more accurate number)
8) all were single-seaters, which led to somewhat high accident rates
9) the action that it saw took place in central Africa (the region, not the country)

10) it used a variant of an engine that was also used by a handful of British aircraft, including one Air Force and one Fleet air Arm fighter design.

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1) it was agile and fast (for the time period)
2) it was originally meant to use a straight wing...
3) the designers got some German data in their hands and changed the prototype to a swept wing
4) it was used "in anger", in one ... let's call it crisis
5) it was used by two nations ... but also flew with a third insignia.
6) the action that it saw was nowhere near territories of the nations that operated it
7) between 600 and 700 were built (don't want to give a more accurate number)
8) all were single-seaters, which led to somewhat high accident rates
9) the action that it saw took place in central Africa (the region, not the country)
10) it used a variant of an engine that was also used by a handful of British aircraft, including one Air Force and one Fleet air Arm fighter design.

11) after its maiden flight, the very pleased test pilot compared it to two somewhat different birds: an ugly duckling and a swift

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I can not resist this one:

Of course it is the SAAB J-29 "Tunnan" (en. "Flying Barrel"),

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3...n31166abu2.jpg

If you want to build one there is a small EDF kit available from [link=http://www.mjd.se/]MJD[/link] and a big turbine powered one from [link=http://www.der-schweighofer.at/artikel/101089/?query=saab]Schweighofer[/link].

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Of course it is :D

Your turn to ask something, Red B.

Here's something about the Barrel:

http://www.airvectors.net/avj29.html
"In the fall of 1946, the Flygvapnet ordered three prototypes of the fighter, which was given the designation "J 29". The initial prototype made its first flight on 1 September 1948, with test pilot Robert Moore, a Briton living in Sweden, at the controls. Moore was pleased with the machine, saying: "It was love at first flight. An ugly duckling on the ground, but in the air a swift."

The prototype was powered by a de Havilland Ghost 45 engine, with 19.6 kN (2,000 kgp / 4,400 lbf) thrust. The aircraft had power-boosted ailerons, with leading-edge slats fitted to the outer part of the wings to reduce landing speed. The slats were extended automatically when the flaps were lowered. Performance exceeded expectations, and despite the aircraft's tubby looks, the J 29 proved surprising agile. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_29_Tunnan
"In 1961, five J 29Bs were stationed in the Democratic Republic of the Congo for a UN peacekeeping mission (ONUC), organized as the F 22 Wing of the Swedish Air Force. It was reinforced by four more J 29Bs and two S 29C photo reconnaissance Tunnans in 1962. Most of the missions involved attacking ground targets with internal cannons as well as unguided rockets. - When ONUC was terminated in 1964, some of the Swedish aircraft were destroyed at their base, since they were no longer needed at home and the cost of taking them all back was deemed excessive."

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What aircrafty is this:

1) Twin engined, twin seat
2) Primary armament: 2 machine guns
3) The concept evolved from a glider
4) It is considered to be the first aircraft of its type to be put into large-scale production
4) Not developed as a warplane, it was however used in one war of international significance.

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Some more hints:

What aircraft is this:

1) Twin engined, twin seat
2) Primary armament: 2 machine guns
3) The concept evolved from a glider
4) It is considered to be the first aircraft of its type to be put into large-scale production
4) Not developed as a warplane, it was however used in one war of international significance.
5) The aircraft was eventually withdrawn from active service 55 years after the first flight of the prototype.
6) One variant of the aircraft (using another designation) was equipped with an arrester hook and undercarriage strengthened for carrier operations.
7) In all, more than 900 aircraft were built, some of them on licence in three different countries.

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English Electric Canberra?

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No, not the Canberra.

What aircraft is this:

1) Twin engined, twin seat
2) Primary armament: 2 machine guns
3) The concept evolved from a glider
4) It is considered to be the first aircraft of its type to be put into large-scale production
4) Not developed as a warplane, it was however used in one war of international significance.
5) The aircraft was eventually withdrawn from active service 55 years after the first flight of the prototype.
6) One variant of the aircraft (using another designation) was equipped with an arrester hook and undercarriage strengthened for carrier operations.
7) In all, more than 900 aircraft were built, some of them on licence in three different countries.
8) The aircraft was unusual in that it did not have ejection seats.

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The Fouga CM 170 Magister would seem to fit. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Fouga CM 170 Magister is a French two-seat twin-engine jet trainer made in all-metal with similar performances to the American Cessna T-37, but slightly faster. Its most distinctive structural feature is a V-type tail, called "Butterfly Tail". Designed from a glider, this plane was the first European jet trainer to enter in a large production scale. It operated in air forces in over 20 countries such as France, Belgium, Germany, Israel and Finland.

Between 1953 and 1958, total production reached more than 900 aircraft, of which considerable numbers were built under licence in West Germany, Israel and Finland. For 16 years, the very popular French aerobatics team "Patrouille de France" flew Fougas. Retired from most military air Forces today, a number of Fouga Magister have been sold to the civilian market, mainly in the States or UK. Mostly imported from Belgium, Finland and France, some operators have introduced the Fougas within their training school. In France, several have been acquired by aviation associations or museums for display and in May 1996, Yves Duval obtained the authorisation to fly these planes under the name of "Yanke Delta".

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Why didn't I think of that?
I used to see them flying over my home quite often, and I saw one at an airshow last summer...
"The windmill with the sewing machine engines" :)

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The Fouga Magister it is!
Good work!

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