RE: ESM P47 Build
Congrats on the maiden!!! Nice flight and landing. Hope you have many more.
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Guys I have the p47 and have been flying it for 2 years now. A great flying plane but mine is very sensitive on the elevator. I have dual rates set at 1/4" up and down with a little expo in it and that has helped. Also have shifted the cg back a bit from manual but it is still sensitive. Anyone else having this issue? Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by voodoodb
(Post 11670083)
Also have shifted the cg back a bit from manual but it is still sensitive. Anyone else having this issue? Any suggestions?
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Sorry guys. I have moved the cg forward. Took out half of the weight in the tail I had added to balance it.
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I agree, moving the tail back will increase sensitivity. Also, if I remember right, the CG from the plans is wrong. I did my own calculations based on MAC (Mean aerodynamic Chord) and have no sensitivity at all. The plane is heavy though, so heavy elevator input is needed automatically in turns or it loses altitude. Let us know how it turns out. Where IS your CG? If you let us know, I'll look at mine to compare.
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The plans say 136 mm from LE. Mine is 132 right now. Do you know what yours is?
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G'day all,
have been flying mine for several years, CofG is about 110mm back from the centre join of the wing, it is good, very nice to fly, I have a DLE 30 in mine, all batteries up the front, no lead, flies like a charm, Oldtimer. |
P47 Thunderbolt CG--FINALLY
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I finally got a chance to measure the CG location of my ESM p47. The engine is a Zenoah G38. Flies very powerfully. I didn't trust anything written on the box, or in the plans. So I recreated the wing planform in a CAD system based on actual measured points on the wing. I then figured out the 25% chord location for each station, representing the center of lift. I added them all up, and divided by the number of stations, giving me a MAC (mean aerodynamic chord) of 4.2" (106.68mm) as measured at the fuselage side. Here is the CAD file:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=1954415 |
Does anyone knows where to get a replacement wing for this bird?
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I know this is an old thread but I have just acquired a ESM P47, the silver one. I will be installing a DLE 30 in it and the ESM V4 retracts. Thanks for all he info here, hope to have photos to post one of these days!
Rudi |
Originally Posted by Rudix
(Post 12431513)
I know this is an old thread but I have just acquired a ESM P47, the silver one. I will be installing a DLE 30 in it and the ESM V4 retracts. Thanks for all he info here, hope to have photos to post one of these days!
Rudi |
P-47
I still have one New in the box, will be planning to start on it in the fall of this year to have it ready by next years fly-ins, mine is getting a OS 33 for the power plant, retract I’m still on the fence about, any suggestions there? |
Originally Posted by Pull Up Now!
(Post 12431530)
Mine is no longer in existence. No, it didn't crash as one might expect. It was destroyed in a fire. Sure loved it, it flew well. I had a Zenoah G38 that I converted to electronic ignition (from magneto). It was the first plane I had built in years in which I put a lot of scale detail. It flew heavy, but predictably. And with that big thick wing, it still landed gently. I'd love to have another one, but Ever Soaring Models has raised it's prices to where it doesn't really stand out as a great deal anymore. Plus, the supplier, Troy Built Models, went out of business.
It seems like the DLE 30 will fit nicely in the cowl, looking forward to the build, just finishing a Seagull FW-190 and have a DH.98 also ready to be test flown. I believe ESM is history so now we only have what stock is left, a bit sad. I still have a BF-110C and Stuka in boxes waiting their turn on the workbench. |
Originally Posted by hairy46
(Post 12431550)
I still have one New in the box, will be planning to start on it in the fall of this year to have it ready by next years fly-ins, mine is getting a OS 33 for the power plant, retract I’m still on the fence about, any suggestions there? |
Thank you!
I can’t wait to get this one done, just ran out of time on getting to it, very interested in how your retracts work, you will have to post some pictures, even better a video of it flying! |
Originally Posted by hairy46
(Post 12431864)
I can’t wait to get this one done, just ran out of time on getting to it, very interested in how your retracts work, you will have to post some pictures, even better a video of it flying! |
Pilots
I bought me one recently from a pilot who had a hard landing ripping one LG out. I'm installing a NGH38 in it and it has air retracts, I think they are original from ESM! I did some weight and I presume my flying weight will be around 7500 gram..... grts Hans |
First test flight
Pilots
I fly my P47 with a NGH38 , Mezjlik 3 blade 18X10 max rpm 6000 static trust around 6 Kg. Flying weight is around 7500 gram. It flew perfect, take off was easy and landing the same, CG is as in manual 136mm from LE, flew upside down and just a liitle down elevator. Tested stall, and it just loosing altitude, this was also the same landing, I could make it realy slow and still it was stable till touch down. Great flyier. Ps waiting for my exhaust adapter so it fits in cowl. grts Hans[/QUOTE] |
Sep 2020
Still flying my ESMP47 grts Hans |
Hi
I need 10 post to be able to post video link sorry for that grts Hans https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...68f9448625.jpg |
grts Hans |
Did you mix flaps with elevator?
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Flap mixing
Originally Posted by Prekin
(Post 12631780)
Did you mix flaps with elevator?
No I didn't mix elevator with flaps, no need for it with this plane. grts Hans https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...894df3504a.jpg |
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2f1749126e.jpg
Still regularly flying mine after six years and 250 plus flights. I'm not sure but I believe these may be out of production so take good care of her. Rick |
Pilots
I sold mine today, to many planes in my hangar. Hans |
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