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Old 03-05-2011, 01:32 PM
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There is a very cool program I found that will automatically figure all the measurements in US or Metric for mixing your own Nitro fuel.

This is a FREE shareware program, I have it and Ireally like it very simple to use

Just go to the link I have listed and then on the left side of the page click on the WinHeli Softwarebutton scroll down and then click thewinhinst.exe download button (note) it wont say "download" when the window comes up click save and you will get a warning but just go on through it by clicking ok or continue cant remember which, but anyway it will just take a few seconds to download and then you will have an easy way to figure component %'s this thing is awesome........and I'll be mixing my ownfuel soon.

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Old 03-06-2011, 07:20 AM
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isn't mixing your own fuel expensive?
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Old 03-06-2011, 05:36 PM
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Mixing ones own fuel can make sure that the fuel is always consistent in all ingredients, initially the cost for all of the components is more than just buying a gallon or two of fuel at the LHS, but look at it this way a mix that is 15% Nitro 8% Syn. oil 5% Castor oil 72% Methanol uses.....

Nitro:19.20 Fluid OZNitro Methane $42.00 per Gallon will make6 1/2Gallons at this amount

Syn. oil: 10.24 Fluid OZ-Syn oil $10-$12 per Quart (approx.) will make3 1/4gallons

Castor oil:6.40 Fluid OZ-Castor $20.00 per Gallonwill make20 Gallons

Methanol: 92.16 Fluid OZ $3 - $5 per 1 gallon-will make 1.4 Gallons

So to mix 1gallon of home brew fuel the cost will be roughly.......

Nitro$6.46

Syn oil-$3.52

Castor oil-$1.00

Methanol-$2.85

Total cost $13.77 per Gallon

With the initial cost of supplies being $77.00 which will make a minimum of 3 1/4 and if you go all castor it will even be cheaper...

The more Nitro used is what drives the price up quick but even at 20% Nitro the cost will only change a couple of bucks per Gallon

This is why in the near future Iplan to mix my own, plus it will give me something extra to mess with and Ican mix a quart at a time if I want and experiment at figuring out the mixture my engines really like the best.....


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oh wow. thts not expensive!!!
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:12 AM
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Seconded.  I make my own now - because quality nitro is not available locally (and i don't consider traxxas fuels to be quality - i never noticed more varnish in my engines than after running a while with traxxas blue fuel)

Keep in mind - some states have HEFTY hazmat fees for shipping nitro.  In my case, i get hit with a state and city fee, so it isn't economical to make my own nitro until i'm ordering nitro in a full case of 4 gallons or more (same fee regardless of amount)

understanding that 4 gallons of nitro will make an IMMENSE amount of fuel - its good to partner up with a ocal RC group or friends, to split the cost and the fuel ( the amount of fuel would go bad since it absorbs water over time... and would take years for me to go through on my own unless i got into big rc planes or something)

I use castor and syntehtic  - Klotz techniplate as the majority of the oil mix, and a smaller percentage than listed above, as a safety measure. Organic oils have a higher burn temp...   that's right - a syntehtic oil will burn sooner (hence cleaner) in the combustion process..  which is a good thing and a bad thing.  Good if everything is running perfectly..   it'll be a cleaner burn.  Less varnish, less mess, etc.  Bad because - lets face it...  we all tend to push our machines..   castor oil is better when you're running too hot, or lean, etc...  it'll cling around for that last bit of dieseling to coat things before being burned up.  

If you can get high concentrate nitro locally (try drag strips)  then making your own is a MUST.  you get to control the quality of the product, and save money too.   If you have to ship it, and get hit with hazmat - it can still work out per gallon... but you have to order enough to justify it, and almost certainly split the quantity with someone.
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Seconded. I make my own now - because quality nitro is not available locally (and i don't consider traxxas fuels to be quality - i never noticed more varnish in my engines than after running a while with traxxas blue fuel)

Keep in mind - some states have HEFTY hazmat fees for shipping nitro. In my case, i get hit with a state and city fee, so it isn't economical to make my own nitro until i'm ordering nitro in a full case of 4 gallons or more (same fee regardless of amount)

understanding that 4 gallons of nitro will make an IMMENSE amount of fuel - its good to partner up with a ocal RC group or friends, to split the cost and the fuel ( the amount of fuel would go bad since it absorbs water over time... and would take years for me to go through on my own unless i got into big rc planes or something)

I use castor and syntehtic - Klotz techniplate as the majority of the oil mix, and a smaller percentage than listed above, as a safety measure. Organic oils have a higher burn temp... that's right - a syntehtic oil will burn sooner (hence cleaner) in the combustion process.. which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good if everything is running perfectly.. it'll be a cleaner burn. Less varnish, less mess, etc. Bad because - lets face it... we all tend to push our machines.. castor oil is better when you're running too hot, or lean, etc... it'll cling around for that last bit of dieseling to coat things before being burned up.

If you can get high concentrate nitro locally (try drag strips) then making your own is a MUST. you get to control the quality of the product, and save money too. If you have to ship it, and get hit with hazmat - it can still work out per gallon... but you have to order enough to justify it, and almost certainly split the quantity with someone.


Yes to all said here......

I have a good friend that flies thelarger planes with 60-91 engines so he uses a lot more fuel than Ido with my stuff, we will be making fuel up for his planes and my trucks &buggy, we know several other fellas that fly planes a lot so we may end up with a 3-4 way split on raw materials which could make it very reasonable for all of us in the long run.

greataddition to this info. "Goatcrapp"

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When you make your first batch for the market placce give me a yell. We currently sell about every other manufacture fuels at our Hobby Villa store so let me know when you're ready for some shelf space.

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Default RE: interested in mixing their own fuel? you need this!

oh my. i miss the smell of nitro but just don't want to risk going back to nitro....i just couldn't take some of the things that go on with nitro. oh well i will miss those days.
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