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    Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Hey guys. Out of curiosity, I was wondering if the 1/6 scale shredder series is any good? For example, if its durable and fun to drive? Now I don't plan on getting one just yet, I would like a 1/10 short course truck first, but I was just curious as to whether these 1/6 scales are good or not.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    depends on how its used.
    some will think Im defending redcat here, but the experience ive had with large scale models comes from a 1/5 KM baja gasser.

    You cannot drive them the same as a lightweight 1/10. What I mean is that a 25' high jump will mean broken parts. Models larger than 1/8 scale have alot of mass and that means broken parts when you try that. A lighter model bounces off the ground. Heavier model digs in and doesnt transfer the impact as well.

    For the most part, the shredders are the same as the 8e's. Its a legthened chassis, longer center driveshafts and molded sideskirts.

    Just like the 8e's, sometimes the diffs have to be shimmed. Stronger steering servo is also a good idea.



    I know Im keeping my eye out for a cheap used one. The ESC/motor combo alone costs more than $100 new, and the lipos are close to that. So if you can find a used one for $200 it is a sweet deal.

    I know I regret selling my earthquake 8e. The size and power of the truck were insane. The shedders are just a bigger/badder version there of.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Ah okay cool thanks. I would definitely not be taking them off big jumps; more of bike ramps and then taking them down to the track. So does this mean the 1/6 scales should be good since I am going to guess, the 1/8 scales are good?

    BTW, how was the gasser? I am thinking of MAYBE the 1/5 scale redcat rampage XB gasser in the future, but I would hate it to be as much a pain as nitro.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Big squid has a good review on the shredder. They put it thru some nice jumps you should check it out.
    http://www.bigsquidrc.com/redcat-shr...course-review/
    After seeing this review I'm seriously thinking of getting one.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    ORIGINAL: Microz

    Ah okay cool thanks. I would definitely not be taking them off big jumps; more of bike ramps and then taking them down to the track. So does this mean the 1/6 scales should be good since I am going to guess, the 1/8 scales are good?

    BTW, how was the gasser? I am thinking of MAYBE the 1/5 scale redcat rampage XB gasser in the future, but I would hate it to be as much a pain as nitro.
    the gasser was cool....till i ran on a track along side a redcat rampage MT. That thing smoked my baja. Between the larger 30cc motor and the 4wd it was faster and totally out handled the baja.
    The XT and XB are lighter than the MT, but still hold up pretty well. Most owners end up upgrading the servo/radio. But other than that I havent heard of many issues.
    And you can get some cool deals on them, with upgrades and 1/5 scale RC stand included

    Gassers are super easy to tune. And you basically tune them once, and then dont mess with tuning the rest of the year!

    Nitros require alot of cleaning. The gassers do in that they are large, but its not as bad IMO as a nitro because there is not as much spray from the exhaust or spilt fuel to attract dirt. and even if you do spill some, its easier to clean gas than nitro fuel.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Fendogz - Cool I'll check out that review! Thanks!

    Nitrosportsandrunner - Oh okay sweet thanks! I think I may save up my money for a rampage XB gasser then instead of buying a 1/10 electric short course truck. For some reason, when it comes to RC Cars, I like the fuel driven vehicles much better than the electrics, but the nitros are too finicky, and the gassers seem to be just right, but expensive. So I guess I may actually end up saving my money for a rampage XB. I'm sure many RC outdoor off road tracks allow the running of 1/5 scale gassers....the track near me has baja racing, so I would assume so. I'll still go about asking them though. So are gassers actually pretty easy to clean and maintain? How are they compared to electrics?
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


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    Fendogz - Cool I'll check out that review! Thanks!

    Nitrosportsandrunner - Oh okay sweet thanks! I think I may save up my money for a rampage XB gasser then instead of buying a 1/10 electric short course truck. For some reason, when it comes to RC Cars, I like the fuel driven vehicles much better than the electrics, but the nitros are too finicky, and the gassers seem to be just right, but expensive. So I guess I may actually end up saving my money for a rampage XB. I'm sure many RC outdoor off road tracks allow the running of 1/5 scale gassers....the track near me has baja racing, so I would assume so. I'll still go about asking them though. So are gassers actually pretty easy to clean and maintain? How are they compared to electrics?
    I cant speak to the XB itself, but based on the baja the maintain is somewhere between my brushless and nitro trucks. So, a bit more than my brushless but not nearly as much as a nitro.
    Cost is the main drawback. But you get alot of rc model. These things are seriously huge, and still very fast. 40mph for something that is 30 inches long is fast.

    Once you put a tuned pipe, the acceleration goes up as well.

    They are easier to clean in that you dont have as much fuel or exhaust mess on them. But harder in that there are more places to clean.

    But you also dont have to do nearly as much before driving. Add fuel, put oil on air filter, start and go. Drive for 1/2 on a tank. Fill and repeat if you like.
    After run: remove air filter for cleaning. Clean if you drove threw mud/water. Done. No emptying the fuel tank, or making sure the motor has no fuel in it.
    You get a slight trade off in cost. The fuel is WAY cheaper.
    On the other end a set of tires can run you $80. A new body is about the same. Other parts are not as bad cost wise, compared to other models.

    I regret selling my KM baja. But I regret more not buying a redcat. the 4wd just makes 1/5 scalers better IMO. More traction and more control.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


    ORIGINAL: nitrosportsandrunner


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    Fendogz - Cool I'll check out that review! Thanks!
    Nitrosportsandrunner - Oh okay sweet thanks! I think I may save up my money for a rampage XB gasser then instead of buying a 1/10 electric short course truck. For some reason, when it comes to RC Cars, I like the fuel driven vehicles much better than the electrics, but the nitros are too finicky, and the gassers seem to be just right, but expensive. So I guess I may actually end up saving my money for a rampage XB. I'm sure many RC outdoor off road tracks allow the running of 1/5 scale gassers....the track near me has baja racing, so I would assume so. I'll still go about asking them though. So are gassers actually pretty easy to clean and maintain? How are they compared to electrics?
    I cant speak to the XB itself, but based on the baja the maintain is somewhere between my brushless and nitro trucks. So, a bit more than my brushless but not nearly as much as a nitro.
    Cost is the main drawback. But you get alot of rc model. These things are seriously huge, and still very fast. 40mph for something that is 30 inches long is fast.

    Once you put a tuned pipe, the acceleration goes up as well.

    They are easier to clean in that you dont have as much fuel or exhaust mess on them. But harder in that there are more places to clean.

    But you also dont have to do nearly as much before driving. Add fuel, put oil on air filter, start and go. Drive for 1/2 on a tank. Fill and repeat if you like.
    After run: remove air filter for cleaning. Clean if you drove threw mud/water. Done. No emptying the fuel tank, or making sure the motor has no fuel in it.
    You get a slight trade off in cost. The fuel is WAY cheaper.
    On the other end a set of tires can run you $80. A new body is about the same. Other parts are not as bad cost wise, compared to other models.

    I regret selling my KM baja. But I regret more not buying a redcat. the 4wd just makes 1/5 scalers better IMO. More traction and more control.
    Cool thanks! Yeah it looks like I'm sold on saving my funds for a redcat Rampage XB then. Should be some good fun with a 1/5 scale gasser!

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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    I have three questions about 1/5 scale gassers if you don't mind.
    1. When storing for the winter, do you need to remove all the fuel from the tank? I know you mentioned not having to after running, but what about for long term storage?
    2. Is there a special break in procedure for the 1/5 scale gassers like there is for nitros?

    3. What air filter oil should be used and where can it be found?
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    1. When storing for the winter, do you need to remove all the fuel from the tank? I know you mentioned not having to after running, but what about for long term storage?   There is mix opions about taking the fuel out of the tank for storage some say yse and some say no I never removed fuel from mine and they have always been just fine. But then again they are so much fun are you sure you are going to be able to just let it sit a whole winter?


    2. Is there a special break in procedure for the 1/5 scale gassers like there is for nitros?  Yes there is a break in but its way better then nitros. Now if you goole thiis question you will get many different answeres buat I have always just follwed this procedure with no problems. 

    New engine break-in procedure




    1. Take it easy on the engine for the first two tanks




    2. Heat cycle twice, run the engine for 20 minutes and let it fully cool down



    3. We recommend 91 octane fuel, mixed at 25:1 Our preffered oil is Castor 927



    4. Let your engine warm up before driving



    5. Try to vary the rpms during breaking.



    5. DO NOT HOLD FULL THROTTLE UNTIL THE ENGINE IS COMPLETELY BROKEN IN!!!



    7. Do not use octane booster

    What air filter oil should be used and where can it be found? You can use the same air filter oil that you would use in nitro and you can get it at your local hobby shop ebay or whereever.

    But do make sure you get a good 2 stroke oil to mix with your gas you want a racing good synthetic oil  I would like to suggest you satrt with the Dunerunner instead of the XB its a much better out of the box and new to 1/5 scale you can learn the hobby learn the car and have more fun with less problem then with the XB you will be upgrading a little sooner then you would want with the tire foams, the bearings, bearing holder, chubs and a few others.

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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Okay cool thanks for your reply! Sounds easy enough to run a gasser. Also, will this air filter oil work fine? http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-Oil-Baja-5B
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


    ORIGINAL: Microz

    Okay cool thanks for your reply! Sounds easy enough to run a gasser. Also, will this air filter oil work fine?Â*http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...er-Oil-Baja-5B
    it will. But I had bought one in a 8 or 12oz spray can when I had my baja. The spray can made it easier to cover the filter. Also, the filter is much larger than on a nitro and im not sure a bottle like that will last very long.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


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    1. When storing for the winter, do you need to remove all the fuel from the tank? I know you mentioned not having to after running, but what about for long term storage?Â*Â* There is mix opions about taking the fuel out of the tank for storage some say yse and some say no I never removed fuel from mine and they have always been just fine. But then again they are so much fun are you sure you are going to be able to just let it sit a whole winter?


    2. Is there a special break in procedure for the 1/5 scale gassers like there is for nitros?Â* Yes there is a break in but its way better then nitros. Now if you goole thiis question you will get many different answeres buat I have always just follwed this procedure with no problems.Â*

    New engine break-in procedure




    1. Take it easy on the engine for the first two tanks




    2. Heat cycle twice, run the engine for 20 minutes and let it fully cool down



    3. We recommend 91 octane fuel, mixed at 25:1 Our preffered oil is Castor 927



    4. Let your engine warm up before driving



    5. Try to vary the rpms during breaking.



    5. DO NOT HOLD FULL THROTTLE UNTIL THE ENGINE IS COMPLETELY BROKEN IN!!!



    7. Do not use octane booster

    What air filter oil should be used and where can it be found? You can use the same air filter oil that you would use in nitro and you can get it at your local hobby shop ebay or whereever.

    But do make sure you get a good 2 stroke oil to mix with your gas you want a racing good synthetic oilÂ* I would like to suggest you satrt with the Dunerunner instead of the XB its a much better out of the box and new to 1/5 scale you can learn the hobby learn the car and have more fun with less problem then with the XB you will be upgrading a little sooner then you would want with the tire foams, the bearings, bearing holder, chubs and a few others.

    This is a confusing post...first, to answer the OP...

    1) No. Just shake the tank (give the whole car a good shake) before priming and running, to mix the oil again, it could have been sitting for 5 years and it'll probably be fine, provided your fuel tank closes well.

    2) No, there is no break in, it makes sense to take it easy for the first 10 minutes, just to let all the seals and screws bed in from the vibration, but after that, you can start tuning straight away.

    Regarding the other stuff...rchobbyunlimited, it seems you are confusing nitro engine break in with gas engine break in. Don't forget, these are ringed pistons. There is no pinch, and therefore, no need for break-in.

    Heat cycling is only for pinch cylinders (nitro engines), there is no need to heat cycle a ringed engine, the ring ensures tolerance at low and high temperatures. Also, you want the lowest octane fuel you can find. Octane is a retardent, it is used in high compression engines to retard the ignition timing to prevent predetonation. These engines have nowhere near enough compression to reap the benefits of any amount of octane. The lower the octane, the smoother they will run, though I would still say just to use regular pump gas, don't go out of your way to find low octane, the difference won't be noticeable in normal running. Lastly, you don't need to warm them up, they warm up very quickly on their own, even in freezong temperatures, and the engine temperature is regulated by the built in fan under the pullstart assembly anyway. The cooler (inlet temperatures) these engines are the more power they will make (just like real 1:1 engines).

    When it comes to tuning, its easy to find the sweet spot by sound. Once you have done that, check the spark plug every so often for color. If its grey and burnt, you are too lean, if its black and sooty, you are too rich. It should be a nice chocolate brown colour, if it is, your tune is good.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    nitrosportsandrunner - Ah okay thanks. What air filter oil did you use when you had your baja?

    Foxy - Ah okay thanks that makes more sense now. Oh and about your part "the lower the octane, the smoother they will run" does this mean I do not have to use premium grade fuel and can just use the regular grade gasoline that most 1:1 cars run on?
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    This is the air filter spray oil most 1/5ers use around here.

    http://www.redcatracingshop.com/product-p/kl-607.htm

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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


    ORIGINAL: Hulk1211

    This is the air filter spray oil most 1/5ers use around here.

    http://www.redcatracingshop.com/product-p/kl-607.htm
    Cool thanks! Is that a good air filter oil? I'm sure it doesn't matter really, but just want to make sure. Also, is redcatracingshop.com a good website to order from for redcat racing merchandise? Never heard of it before, and browsed their website, it looks like they are exclusively redcat racing items.

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    nitrosportsandrunner - Ah okay thanks. What air filter oil did you use when you had your baja?

    Foxy - Ah okay thanks that makes more sense now. Oh and about your part ''the lower the octane, the smoother they will run'' does this mean I do not have to use premium grade fuel and can just use the regular grade gasoline that most 1:1 cars run on?
    IDK if it will run smoother, but there aint no need of running premium. Not unless its a really built up motor running higher compression. Stock motors wont run any better on premium than regular.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?


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    nitrosportsandrunner - Ah okay thanks. What air filter oil did you use when you had your baja?
    Foxy - Ah okay thanks that makes more sense now. Oh and about your part ''the lower the octane, the smoother they will run'' does this mean I do not have to use premium grade fuel and can just use the regular grade gasoline that most 1:1 cars run on?
    IDK if it will run smoother, but there aint no need of running premium. Not unless its a really built up motor running higher compression. Stock motors wont run any better on premium than regular.
    Okay sweet thanks! Oh and will regular 2 stroke oil I use in my weedeater work just fine for the oil : gas ratio? I know the ratio is probably different from my weedeater, but will I be able to use the same oil I use in that?
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    nitrosportsandrunner - Ah okay thanks. What air filter oil did you use when you had your baja?

    Foxy - Ah okay thanks that makes more sense now. Oh and about your part ''the lower the octane, the smoother they will run'' does this mean I do not have to use premium grade fuel and can just use the regular grade gasoline that most 1:1 cars run on?
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    nitrosportsandrunner - Ah okay thanks. What air filter oil did you use when you had your baja?
    Foxy - Ah okay thanks that makes more sense now. Oh and about your part ''the lower the octane, the smoother they will run'' does this mean I do not have to use premium grade fuel and can just use the regular grade gasoline that most 1:1 cars run on?
    Absolutely.
    Cool thanks! Now time to save some funds. Can't wait!!!

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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Here's a couple of pics of my FG and my old HPI Baja to keep your appetite up. The Baja was sold a while ago, but I still have the beetle...





    There are quite a few more if you click on my name and look in my gallery.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Wow! Those are some nice looking cars you have there! I looked at your gallery as well for your 1/5 scales, and man they look GREAT!!! Now I'm REALLY excited to get one! They don't look very complicated to work on either...I think there was a picture of the open tranny for the baja? Didn't look too complicated at all. They must be fairly easy to work on yes?
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    They are both horrible to work on to be honest. It's the weight that makes them difficult to maneuver. The Baja is a particularly famous car for needing almost complete disaassembly to access the smallest thing. That's a slight exaggeration, but you get my point. The redcat ones are actually easier to work on than both of these.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    ah okay thanks. yeah I can see the weight being an issue.
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    RE: Redcat 1/6 scale shredder series?

    Well...that didn't go too well. Being only 15, I asked my dad if I could save up my money for a 1/5 scale gasoline powered RC car (redcat rampage XB), and he said no. He said its because "last time you had something gas powered (it was nitro...), you dragged me into it for help with tuning and other crap....then you just sold it!" I was 10 at that time, and had no knowledge about RC or anything. Now before anyone jumps on me, yes, I do pay for ALL MY RC STUFF WITH MY OWN MONEY whether its parts, batteries, electronics, upgrades, etc. So I guess I won't be getting one for quite some years now!!![:@]Anyway, are there any other redcats which are durable and fun to drive which are electric? The 1/6 scales look like they are fun, but they don't look too durable...
    Cars: Axial SCX10, Losi Desert Buggy XL
    Planes: Ember 2


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