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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Thanks ehroof, I am not sure if I was careful about the placement of the clasp ... those MPI springs did not have a good clasp at the end and I think making my own could have contributed to it's early demise.

    I still think I will use the 4146 or 4146x clutch spring, and maybe test out the shoes ... if they do not work, are there any other brands of shoes that I could use?
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    hey minicwik i just put the 4146x on volcano perfect fit , i put some loctite where the spring joins ,works like a charm.

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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Cool thanks, did you use the shoes as well or just keep your stock ones?
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    The shoes will not fit.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Thanks Clermont

    I installed the 4146x spring after lightly sanding the stock clutch shoe surfaces and saw what everyone meant when they said the Traxxas shoes are too small so I didn't bother.

    I buttoned everything back up properly, and checking/re-checking the gear mesh with the new HPI 17t racing clutch bell, and after installing the new HPI header along with the RPM tuned pipe I took it for a short ride in the garage and everything is working great again. Thanks to all!

    Clermont - on a side note I look forward to receiving my order ;-)
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    You should receive in a couple days. It was shipped out already. USPS.
    thank you sir.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Thank you sir!
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    I just have to say that I have been reading posts for awhile now and I admire how everyone here is eager to help whenever problems arise. I am looking into replacing stock clutch shoes on my Volcano sv with the ones from hpi. (A886) Does anyone have information on how those would mount on the flywheel? Do you need the springs that come with the shoes? Any help would be great.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    you just have to use what comes with the setup. it eliminates the spring, you have to leave the e clip off but they do work, there is a higher stall rate with them, meaning they wont engage until a higher rpm than the stock shoes
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    I recently got a volcano sv 1/10 scale truck. I got it new in box from some one on ebay. I dont want to put them down or eany thing becauce they haye been supportive and helped me by sending me a new (crappy AM radio) but Idont like the radio system. Thats my fault. I Ususl fly helicopters. I 0wne about four of them. I can fly decient no pro stuff. I have owned several nitro trucks and a few electric. I am curently in process of "me be" building a street, off road, and drag track, along with a air strip beetween Jackson Tn and Dyersburg Tn. I would like to get input if eanybody in local area is interested I have about 20 or more arces avalable and good funds to do it but I could use input on alot of infg on track length on off road tracks I will put 1 track for Nascar tracks that are of scale including Taladaga,Bristal,Martinsville,etc. But the main point is the perspn that has helped me very much with this new manufacture of the volcano sv (REDCAT RACING) dont support thier product as good as rufaster.com they helped when others have not. They will help yuo in eany way they have me and if you need parts quick look them up and tell them party_ruler_dude a.k.a David sent you.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    that sounds cool how far are you from knoxville

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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    NVM i fixed that. But no that wasn't the prob.


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    did you grind away a little off the post, the one to the left in the picture, you can see where it is rounded out.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    ehroof great post on clutch all i come up with is gears with wrong tooth count and do you use stock trans? someone else said locktite brngs in clutch makes sense clutch xpands brngs do to at different rates and let bell wobble i wonder if ceramic brngs.locktited in to stay put then no more variable lash clutch and gears i have a bb with tiawan vx 18 .3 big block and if they use those gears with smaller engines i feel i could go a bit taller on hi gear what do you think confusing enoughf?i dont know how forum works but a reply to green 1 would be nice thanks

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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Hi, thanks for the good words. You use the stock trans with the upgraded clutch bells. Dont put locktite on the bearings. You can oil them up, you can use the stock bearings. Stick to the stock gearing, dont go any taller they are tall enough as it is. hope this answered your questions.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES


    ORIGINAL: ehroof

    I figured since alot of people have been asking about the upgraded clutch bell and spring i would make a post just about that.

    Hpi 2 speed clutch bell for tornado xp and other 2 speeds

    hpi #83069: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...4&I=LXCLR2&P=K
    hpi #76977: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...4&I=LXDHM0&P=K
    hpi #76982: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...4&I=LXCLR9&P=K

    Hpi single speed clutch bell for volcano stx and other single speeds

    hpi #77107: http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/s.../Detail?no=200 this is the vented racing clutch bell with bearings at a great price or http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLST9&P=7 (you can use more or less teeth, less teeth better acceleration, more teeth has more top end and faster)

    clutch springs

    traxxas #4146: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...46&FVPROFIL=++ (regular)
    traxxas #4146x: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=++&search3=Go (high stall, more rpm's before engaging the clutch)
    Only use the springs with the traxxas setup the clutch shoes wont work

    mpi #3072: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUR89&P=7
    cheaper alternative

    This setup from hpi will eliminate the spring all together:
    hpi #A886: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVK12&P=7

    Adjustable clutch shoes and spring
    hpi #A885: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=++&search3=Go
    volcano single speed spur gear: #8033

    Hope this helps some of you's out, i have personally used the hpi cluch bells and the traxxas 4146x spring and i am very happy with them both, the cluch bells will eliminate your problems with stripping gears so i would suggest you do it.
    Fantasitc, I just read through this, good find dude. I have one question about the clutch bell, are there any other items needed for the installation or is it a drop in fit. Thanks.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    If you decide on the HPI 17-T (like I have) purchase it from Clermont or AllAboutFun.

    Clermont Link - http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/s.../Detail?no=200

    1. It comes to you faster
    2. It comes with new bearings

    The install does not require any extra parts, just a drop in. While you have it off and open, look at your clutch shoes and see if they are grooved like my bro-in-laws were, if so you may want to replace them as well.
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    ORIGINAL: MiniCwik

    If you decide on the HPI 17-T (like I have) purchase it from Clermont or AllAboutFun.

    Clermont Link - http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/s.../Detail?no=200

    1. It comes to you faster
    2. It comes with new bearings

    The install does not require any extra parts, just a drop in. While you have it off and open, look at your clutch shoes and see if they are grooved like my bro-in-laws were, if so you may want to replace them as well.
    Thanks, but i need the two speed. The info that he posted was on the two speed. The clutch bell look a little deep thats why i was wondering if there were any other parts needed.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    its a drop in, you can use the stock bearings.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    Thanks, Hey your in here enough, have you thought about appling for a moderator postion. If you do, let us know. They look for people that help alot and, you fall in that catagory. Thanks again.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    My bad ... [&o]
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    ORIGINAL: MiniCwik

    My bad ... [&o]
    Hey dude thanks for the help. I appreciate the people in here.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    i would like to but its just that during and a month after the holidays there is usually not much work, just enough to keep the guys busy, i will pick up in the begining of febuary and only be on at night, i have my guys working in long island doing a kitchen job for the past few weeks and will be there for another 2 or so.
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    Your a busy man. Thats cool. My job allows me time to spend in here during the day. I guess im lucky.
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    RE: CLUTCH BELL AND CLUTCH SPRING UPGRADES

    My hpi 2 speed clutch bell setup kinda moves up and down when screwed on, could i fix this by just buying some more of those thin washers and installing them...?

    Not relating to this but will airlines let you take your nitro buggy on the plane? Is it hard to get it on without much hassle?


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