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Old 02-03-2009, 04:02 AM
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It seems that the warhead and the tornado are the same Is there a single speed metal gearbox availlable for them
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:39 AM
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The only way you could of melted the gears with the break on is if the cars idle was too high and it was trying to move. The heat build up could have done that. But I've never heard or seen that happen. So your saying that the car was just idleing and the gears melted?
Another thing that can strip a gear is coming off a jump to a dead stop. When you hit the ground and dont move the RPM's are still up and have no choice but to try and get the tranny to move so if you hit and stick, you can strip a gear that way. I did that yesterday on my HyperSpeed.

LIKE2RACE: If the warhead and tornado is the same then I would think the only place to find a metal gear box would be from an aftermarket company that makes parts for the Warhead. I dont think I've come accross a metal gear box made by RedCat. Maybe someone else will have a better idea on that one. Good luck.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:23 AM
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No, When i would try to accelerate after idle the gear would start to slip and then just dident go any ware, but the gear was melted you could tell by what was left of it
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:17 AM
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Weird dont know what to tell you. Hope someone else can give you some ideas
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:02 AM
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if u didnt set ur gear mesh right u can burn through gears really quick. i am goin to take my gears to the local technology center and ask the precision machince shop teacher to make sum gears. the one near me made a rotor head for my heli so a gear should be no prob. u guys should look into it. mine only charges for the cost of the matterial, no labor since they r all kids. now you dont have any warrenty but i still havent broke my rotor head and it has been through some pretty bad crashes. the only thing i am worried about is if there are any other plastic parts in the drivetrain. i want all metal so i dont have to replace so many damn gears. lol wright back and tell me what u guys think.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:41 PM
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No, When i would try to accelerate after idle the gear would start to slip and then just dident go any ware, but the gear was melted you could tell by what was left of it
what happened is you didn't have the slipper tightened down enoug, so when you hit the gas it just slipped, and the friction between the spacer and the gear eventually melted the gear.

edit: Does the tornado have a slipper on it or is it the older style two speed?
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anybody know what kind of aftermarket brake disk and pads will fit the bb? also can i use http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...2&I=LXBMJ9&P=K instead of http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...2&I=LXCLR2&P=K
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:39 PM
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I dont know of a sliper clutch on the tornado bb
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:48 PM
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one of the reasons i sold my tornado. all i did was chew up gears. it made me really friggin mad
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:34 PM
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Hey people the simple way to fix the gear problem is to get a tranny from an HPI MT2. It is a slipper clutch design and mount right up. Most of you already have an HPI cb on your car so meshing the gears is not a problem. Hope this helps some of yall.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:53 PM
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I may look more into the hpi tranny...... does it bolt right up with no mods??
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:55 AM
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Here's a pics of what their talking about. http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/85040/ It's a set of all three Front, Rear and Center. All it is, is a shell you still have to get the gears, slipper and whatever else is needed to make it work. Has anyone done this conversion yet? Will the stock spur gear fit in this tranny?
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would you still nead the new clutch bell if you just get the tranny
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:27 PM
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would you still nead the new clutch bell if you just get the tranny
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:33 PM
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the bolt pattern on that hpi mt2 tranny is different.... its not perfect squared bolt pattern like the tornado...... i think i'll just stick with the regular tornado single speed
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Yeah it looks like it'll be a pain in the as$ to do. Just play it safe with the stock set-up and you'll be fine.
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thanks for the tranny help does any body know stock needle valve AND idle skrew settings
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HSN is 3 turns out. LSN say's 2 1/2 turns out. But I've found with that, that the engine is hard to start. I turned it in 1/2 turn and she kick right over. So 2 turns out on the LSN. Thats your starting point and you can tune from there.
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Right now in Jersey it's been between 20-37 outside. My HSN is set and 2 3/4 turns out and I think my LSN is 1 1/2.
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well i am in Baltimore so were a little warmer, but do you know your idle skrew?
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HSN is 3 turns out. LSN say's 2 1/2 turns out. But I've found with that, that the engine is hard to start. I turned it in 1/2 turn and she kick right over. So 2 turns out on the LSN. Thats your starting point and you can tune from there.
Actually the high speed needle is 2 1/2 turns out and the low speed is flush with the casing
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hey guys just to clear tis up i didn't use the HPI tranny case. I just used the slipper clutch and shaft out of a MT2 and mounted it in the stock case. sorry for the confusion
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Perhamrocks, I understand they say set the LSN flush but when I do, I can pull the pull start all day long and I get no where. It's only when I turn it in all the way and then back out 1 1/2 turns I'm able to get her to kick over. At which point the LSN is set no wheres near flush which I thought was very odd and wrong but it seems to work great this way.

Just last night I read a post made by the Owner of RedCatRacing I believe where he said that the HSN factory setting is 2 1/2 turns out and the LSH is 1 1/2. I'll try to find it and repost it. But I do follow "stock" setting. MY Hpi T-15 is set that way.
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Post was made by HimotoRacing: Engine manufacturers often include base-line settings for the mixture needles, so it’s wise to start with these. If this information is not provided, then you must arrive at needle settings that will get the engine started. A universal starting point is usually about 1 turn open (counterclockwise) on the low-speed needle and somewhere in the 2- to 3-turn range on the high-speed needle. This varies among engines, but it gets you started running, and then you can make the necessary corrections.
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but still does any body know IDLE SKREW!!!!!!!!
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