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Old 05-14-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

I am new to the forum and to redcat so bear with me
I bought a tornado BB for my christmas present and have been very happy.
I recently stripped out my gears and broke my clutch spring (big surprise)
replaced my clutch shoes with HPI 87028 and bell with a825 13/18
I also ordered the roller bearing and bushings to go with it
when I installed it I noticed there was no shoulder inside to keep the bell from sliding off and my pilot shaft appears to be too short
I have seen several times on this forum that this bell will work with the bushings and bearing but I cannot seem to figure it out.

I also bought the 06047 u-joint shafts from redcat and they do not fit
there appears to be another shoulder further in the knuckle that could possibly hold a smaller inner bearing

If anyone is using these PLEASE help me
I have been trying to contact redcat but my work schedule does not allow me to call during their bussiness hours and they havn't returned my e-mail
I love my tornado and I do not want to give up on it or redcat
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

i dont know about that set-up but i found this on the form and i hope it helps you out

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5544288/tm.htm

if not ask ehroof he uses that set-up on one of the many nitros he owns
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

You need a longer pilot shaft. Yo ucan buy a sleeve at home depot I think it is 3/16thsx1 inch. THen cut it to size.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

yep
I'm having the same problem he was but I actually have the bushings mentioned and a set of bearings that are the same size that i thought would work better
the problem is the pilot shaft is too short so if you tighten it at all the plastic cage on yhe roller bearings distorts and siezes
I will probably order the hpi flywheel and pilot shaft rather than use a spacer
thank you very much for the help - I did a search about 50 times and didn't find that post so that wa a HUGE help

I would still greatly appreciate any help on the u-joint shafts if anyone can

thanks again
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

OK -- I got my clutch bell fixed -- thanks guys
I still have not been able to get ahold of redcat about the CV shafts so I may just give up on them for now so I can get back out there.
I was twisting the original dogbones even before the mods and now I have taller gearing, taller tires and more power so I will probably eat them quick.

Does anyone know a tougher dog bone or a CV shaft that will fit
hopefully will have this together this weekend and post pics and a list-- quite a few mods -- tripled the price of the car and a month of working on it

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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

Those CVD axles are for the Volcano series trucks as far as I know that's all they fit at least as far as I KNOW the people that order them are ordering them for Volcanos. I could be wrong though.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

that must be it because there is NO way they will fit the tornado
they were listed in the book and on the website as for the tornado
that's $40 down the crapper
thanks though for all your help guys
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

Glad to hear you got the 13/18 bell to work I have the same set-up and love it. I use bearings instead of bushings they work a lot better, I just stacked the bearings (3 of them) on top of each other. I think you mentioned that you had bearings. Anyway welcome to the forum.


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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

Which bearings did you stack, the roller bearings?

Frank, long time owner, first time modder lol.
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

If your using that clutch bell, you need the needle bearings that go inside. You also need to make the pilot shaft longer by using a piece of tubing that will fit inside the bearing. ONce you have the tubing you take a long screw that will go through the tubing and into the pilot shaft.

[link=http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/488]http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/488[/link]
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

Hi again, thanks so much for replying. Can I just use the HPI a805 pilot shaft instead of using the tubing? Is there already a link which explains the install? Thanks again!!

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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

Do I also need the B070 hpi metal bushings??

Thanks again,
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Default RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado

I've got most of my parts but something is missing...
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