jumpanddrop

the lighning looks like pbs to me. what dose the tsunami have???

jumpanddrop

look at this. look like pbs


http://www.redcatracing.com/picsgallery/lightning13.jpg

firebird78

no thats c-hub......to me c-hub is a glorified kingpin...lol....

jumpanddrop

hu???, did you look at the pic. it looks like theres a place to put the shocks in the swing arms but insted they put a scew on the outside of the arm. look exacly like pbs

firebird78

I have a lightning and a hurricane...tomorrow I'll try to take some pics and post them...

jumpanddrop

did you look at that pic??? i dont see how theres a "c hub " in it. look at the link


http://www.redcatracing.com/picsgallery/lightning10.jpg

firebird78

I dont have to look at it...I got one...lol...but yeah I looked

webbl19

i dont think the lightning has PBS, if you look at the tornado and volcano it looks like they have PBS, it has 2 little balls off the arms that go into the hub deals.

jumpanddrop

[][][] i hate when i can figure things out. lol. the lightning and tornado look the same. w/e its dosent realy matter, i just hate not know everything lol

jumpanddrop

ok i think i get it. i was looking at where the shock atached to that all. is the c hub this???


http://www.redcatracing.com/itemdeta...partno=TSUNAMI. to me the c hublooks like it can work with pb and kingpin.

firebird78

looks like the tsaumi has c-hubs

ehroof

ok guys, i own every redcat they make, lol
1. lightning has c hub suspension
2. tornado bb and volcano sv has pbs
3. tsunami has c hub

4. there is not a ton of difference between the c hub and king pin suspension.

5. volcano stx and tornado bb/shockwave have c hub

webbl19

i knew it.

firebird78

hahhhh glorified kingpin...lol...hey Eddie is that normal my buggy not wanting to turn right unless its moving??...hasnt been a problem just curious...it turns sharp enuff when moving but sitting still it varially turns..now if I drop my suspension it turns easier but then it bottoms out really bad I got maybe 3/4 inch spacers in the front...back is lower..I found it flies more level that way

ehroof

take the servo horn off the servo and see if its binding any where, if not, alot of times tires wont turn when not moving and on the ground, lift the car off the ground and see if it turns good.

webbl19

mine doesnt turn good when it is just sitting there either, you can move the linkage that connect to your servo to a different hole, i did that and it made mine turn sharper. i have mine on the middle hole.

Kemo

Traxxas designed the vehicle to have it pop out/come apart rather than break parts in hard impacts.

ehroof

its always a great thing when your suspesion is "designed" to pop out when in a race huh? i higly doubt that is was designed to do that, i think it has to do with what i said earlier about the popping out.

vnmsgt

Here is a pic of what pops out and what does not. The top arrow does NOT, I have asked a ton of mugen guys if it does and they do not have a problem. The bottom arrow is what everyone complains about popping out (Mugens, Losi,s) have that problem and can be fixed with a bolt and washer screwed in on top. They said if the top one were to pop out it would completely break the knuckle and there would be no popping back in. (so they say) I have not had one pop out yet. Traxxas's need alot of mods and upgrades to be really track competitive without stuff breaking or coming apart. They appeal more towards the new people coming into the hobby and are not tough like 1/8th scale cars.

ehroof

you can post all the pictures and explain all you like, everyone that i talk to that races off road, and these guys are hardcore not just someone who just started in the hobby do not like the pb suspension for racing, i am not going to argue with you about apples and oranges, i only race occasionally off road and mostly race on road 1/8 and 1/10.

vnmsgt

I was just thinking you might be thinking of the wrong ball popping out is all and thought it would be better to show a pic of what I was talking about.

{GBI}Harryball

Well i guess that the mugen is out of the question for hardcore racing, i think we should start racing the duratrax products instead.

ehroof

its all good bro, i am just relaying what i have heard, i just think its a good idea to sell as an upgraded suspension and leave the suspension the way it is on the hurricane.

{GBI}Harryball

Me too, and myself and my friends do the regional races in michigan, Against team drivers. Im just speaking from experiance.

vnmsgt

I was looking at the first pictures more and besides it being on what looks like a new hurricane I noticed the tires are different when what comes from factory and also the wing is a high downforce wing. Are those going to be changes too?