Another brushless Avalanche thread
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Another brushless Avalanche thread
Ok, this is not really an Avalanche..
The car is a HSP Rattlesnake which is the same car as the Avalanche.
I am going to post info and pictures during the conversion.
Parts that I have gathered so far are:
Motor: MegaMotors ACn 22/30/3 1000w 1270rev/V
ESC: Welgard 70A (no BEC)
Battery: 2x Mystery 11.1V 3cell 2800mAh
Gear: 10t Mod 1.0
So far i have mounted an ESC in the radiobox and have got a CAD blueprint of the new engine mount that I will have to build.
I have moved the servotray to the left side of the chassie and cut off the part off the servotray that goes to the throttle/brake servo.
I will post some pictures later today.
//Mattias in Sweden
The car is a HSP Rattlesnake which is the same car as the Avalanche.
I am going to post info and pictures during the conversion.
Parts that I have gathered so far are:
Motor: MegaMotors ACn 22/30/3 1000w 1270rev/V
ESC: Welgard 70A (no BEC)
Battery: 2x Mystery 11.1V 3cell 2800mAh
Gear: 10t Mod 1.0
So far i have mounted an ESC in the radiobox and have got a CAD blueprint of the new engine mount that I will have to build.
I have moved the servotray to the left side of the chassie and cut off the part off the servotray that goes to the throttle/brake servo.
I will post some pictures later today.
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Ok, so here comes a couple of pictures.
These are before I rebuilt the servotray and it is still on the right side on these photos.
The ESC:
The Motor:
The Gear:
The Batteries:
I will use 2 batteries at the same time so I will get 22.2V out of them.
This will give me about 28000rpm.
I believe the standard VX.21 engine does 30000rpm so its pretty close.
//Mattias in Sweden
For more photos visit my [link=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattiastbs/]Flickr[/link]..
These are before I rebuilt the servotray and it is still on the right side on these photos.
The ESC:
The Motor:
The Gear:
The Batteries:
I will use 2 batteries at the same time so I will get 22.2V out of them.
This will give me about 28000rpm.
I believe the standard VX.21 engine does 30000rpm so its pretty close.
//Mattias in Sweden
For more photos visit my [link=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattiastbs/]Flickr[/link]..
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Good luck with it - that's a plane ESC right? in which case the brake might be a bit poor, if it exists at all - so you might need to retain the original disc brake.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Yes, the ESC is from a plane but the brake is really good in it..
It is programmable so it has got three brakemodes - Hard, Medium and Soft or something like that..
For the mount I am going to cut out a bit of 8mm thick alloy and mill out the holes with a Dremel and a "mill-mount"
//Mattias in Sweden
It is programmable so it has got three brakemodes - Hard, Medium and Soft or something like that..
For the mount I am going to cut out a bit of 8mm thick alloy and mill out the holes with a Dremel and a "mill-mount"
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
True but you know how much energy a truck needs to burn off to slow from speed? That energy has to go somewhere - Using an ESC brake means it dissipates as heat in the ESC and in the motor (mostly the motor). In my opinion it's best to dissipate that into a mechanical disc brake in order to keep your motor temps down.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
The only problem I see with having a mecanical break is that i dont have enough channels in my radio.
I can probably use a Y-cable to connect a servo to the brake.
I will have to take a look at that..
Any ideas?
//Mattias in Sweden
I can probably use a Y-cable to connect a servo to the brake.
I will have to take a look at that..
Any ideas?
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
A y-cable would work, but it depends on whether the plane ESC can treat center trigger as "idle" (i.e. no throttle) since a plane ESC goes from 0% to +100%, unlike a car wich goes -100% to 0 to +100%. Try the ESC only, and you can always add the mech brake later. The mech brake might also give a better feel - the plane brake might be on/off and no progressive brake.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Update: 2008-11-24
So here comes a couple of pictures of the new engine mount.
It's made in 8mm thick alloy.
I have also rearranged the radio equipment (servo and receiver)
And now, the pics:
That's all for now...
//Mattias in Sweden
So here comes a couple of pictures of the new engine mount.
It's made in 8mm thick alloy.
I have also rearranged the radio equipment (servo and receiver)
And now, the pics:
That's all for now...
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Is that pinion going to reach looks like the shaft is far off but like that motor mount looks well built.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
The piniong will reach, the mount is built so that the motor can slide towards the differential.
I will probably upload some more pictures later today.
Will have to get another ESC though because i toasted the old one today when running it with that engine and 6s lipos.
Must have been to many Amps..
//Mattias in Sweden
I will probably upload some more pictures later today.
Will have to get another ESC though because i toasted the old one today when running it with that engine and 6s lipos.
Must have been to many Amps..
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
I am trying a 100amp turnigy from hobbycity with 9XL motor I'm just waiting on my 4s battery will post some pics so we can compare good job so far.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
The HiMoto Rancho is also pretty much the same as the Avalanche and the Rattlesnake?
I took a look at your pictures and it looks like its the same chassis and such..
What piniong did you use for your truck?
Mine was a Mod 1.0 so that's what I bought.
How will you solve the batterymount?
Will you use a "batterybox" or something else?
//Mattias in Sweden
I took a look at your pictures and it looks like its the same chassis and such..
What piniong did you use for your truck?
Mine was a Mod 1.0 so that's what I bought.
How will you solve the batterymount?
Will you use a "batterybox" or something else?
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Yes I'm using mod 1.0 for pinion I think it's a 14t for battery im going to use velcro straps.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
A little update again.
I found out why I toasted the old ESC.
The problem seemed to be the amount of "poles" in the motor.
The standard setting in the ESC was "2pole inrunner" the motor I am running is a "6pole inrunner".
Therefore I toasted the transistors in the ESC.. [:@]
I will order a new ESC soon because the one I am using right now is a little bit to weak.
I am just using it to test the rest of the electrical system, to make sure the motor lines up with the diff and such.
The car runs but I haven't tested full throttle yet.
Will post some pictures and I will keep coming with new updates.
//Mattias in Sweden
I found out why I toasted the old ESC.
The problem seemed to be the amount of "poles" in the motor.
The standard setting in the ESC was "2pole inrunner" the motor I am running is a "6pole inrunner".
Therefore I toasted the transistors in the ESC.. [:@]
I will order a new ESC soon because the one I am using right now is a little bit to weak.
I am just using it to test the rest of the electrical system, to make sure the motor lines up with the diff and such.
The car runs but I haven't tested full throttle yet.
Will post some pictures and I will keep coming with new updates.
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Hi,
I am Sebastien from Nitro Speed R/C. I really really like his brushless motor mount. Is there someone near me or not that will be able to built some for me?
If its possible:
1) Please give me the cost for each brushless mount.
2) Please give me the cost for shipping to Canada , Quebec, G1E1G4.
Best regards
Sebastien
I am Sebastien from Nitro Speed R/C. I really really like his brushless motor mount. Is there someone near me or not that will be able to built some for me?
If its possible:
1) Please give me the cost for each brushless mount.
2) Please give me the cost for shipping to Canada , Quebec, G1E1G4.
Best regards
Sebastien
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
ORIGINAL: tbs
stallone11: You have got a pm.
//Mattias in Sweden
stallone11: You have got a pm.
//Mattias in Sweden
Thanks a lot!
Sebastien
Owner of Nitro Speed R/C
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Here are some pics of my brushless Rancho same as Redcat earthquake this is motor mount I used perfect fit.
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Just a little update.
Got my new ESC yesterday, got the manual today.. [>:]
When I get home I am going to test to program it.
Hopefully it works great.
Might be able to get a Video in a short time now..
Will take some pictures later today to.
//Mattias in Sweden
Got my new ESC yesterday, got the manual today.. [>:]
When I get home I am going to test to program it.
Hopefully it works great.
Might be able to get a Video in a short time now..
Will take some pictures later today to.
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Sorry for not updating in a while.
After some minor problems I have now got the car running.
The setup is a bit changed and it will probably be even faster now.
Setup:
Scorpion HK-3026 1600kv 1470W 6poles 10T
Mystery 100A plane ESC, No BEC, Electrical brake
Hitec Feather 35Mhz Receiver
JR XP652 35Mhz Transmitter
Mystery LiPo 3S 2800mAh 25c-30c
Will post some new photos and hopefully a video soon to.
//Mattias in Sweden
After some minor problems I have now got the car running.
The setup is a bit changed and it will probably be even faster now.
Setup:
Scorpion HK-3026 1600kv 1470W 6poles 10T
Mystery 100A plane ESC, No BEC, Electrical brake
Hitec Feather 35Mhz Receiver
JR XP652 35Mhz Transmitter
Mystery LiPo 3S 2800mAh 25c-30c
Will post some new photos and hopefully a video soon to.
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
So here comes some photos.
Will try and get a video later today..
View from top:
ESC and Pinion:
Front:
ESC and Pinion again:
My scorpion Motor:
Front again:
The receiver:
There are more picture on [link=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattiastbs/]My Flickr Page[/link].
//Mattias in Sweden
Will try and get a video later today..
View from top:
ESC and Pinion:
Front:
ESC and Pinion again:
My scorpion Motor:
Front again:
The receiver:
There are more picture on [link=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattiastbs/]My Flickr Page[/link].
//Mattias in Sweden
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RE: Another brushless Avalanche thread
Here are some videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4moHtzAVD8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZdrHBu9F2o
To little space to run on, only 3cell LiPo on and rather frozen ground.
Kinda hard to run it on..
//Mattias in Sweden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4moHtzAVD8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZdrHBu9F2o
To little space to run on, only 3cell LiPo on and rather frozen ground.
Kinda hard to run it on..
//Mattias in Sweden