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NateDogg80 12-13-2012 07:16 AM

chasis compatibility??
 
Iam looking to replace my volcano epx pro chasis with an aluminum one. Ican't seem to find anything that is for the volcano other than the stock plastic one. Is the Volocano chasis compatible with any other trucks, other than redcat epx models??

nitrosportsandrunner 12-13-2012 05:49 PM

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well, the diffs and suspension parts will bolt onto a nitro s30 chassis.

Everything else you would have to make mounting holes on the nitro chassis.

the nitro has a different steering servo location, no mount holes for the motor/upper chassis plate/battery posts ect.

I think it could be done, but custom holes would have to be drilled for sure. And who knows what other issues you may run into.

did you manage to break the plastic chassis?

NateDogg80 12-14-2012 10:18 AM

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unfortunately yes.  I hit a pole doin about 20mph and it ripped the suspension arm right out of the chasis and broke where it screws in.  Also bent the crap out of hinge pins that hold the arms on.  but whats cool is... I can rebuild it.

Johnathond22 12-26-2012 08:43 AM

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We all have the epx pro models and have been building many Aluminum upgrades. If you can't force the chassis to accept nitro version it is possible to upgrade to aluminum with a little home engineering. See below. This bumper took a direct pole hit at an easy 40 mph lipo epx. Still in tact.

nitrosportsandrunner 12-26-2012 08:58 AM

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We all have the epx pro models and have been building many Aluminum upgrades. If you can't force the chassis to accept nitro version it is possible to upgrade to aluminum with a little home engineering. See below. This bumper took a direct pole hit at an easy 40 mph lipo epx. Still in tact.
jeez, nice work man!
You just traced out the chassis, to cut the alloy one. Now you have heavy duty bumper as well as skid plates.
I also like where you bolted it to the chassis. You picked points that dont get any stress. If you had bolted it with the screws that hold the stock chassis to the diff cases that could have caused an issue.

Only thing I would have done different, is I would have used a much larger drill bit to make a countersink hole. Then used flat head screws to get them flush mounted with the alloy chassis.

You know, multiple people lately have been asking about alloy chassis for the volcano. Perhaps you should consider making/selling what you have there!

Johnathond22 12-26-2012 09:15 AM

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Yeah, this was actually the first which is a prototype and we have actually perfected it. I will post a few photos again later of the other full guard. I did re-sink these screws. This was a quick run we built and tested heavy bashing. It helped with flipping too. It bounces on the front and rear bumpers instead of breaking off the hubs. We just got into RC and will try to keep posting new ideas. The volcano is an excellent starter truck but does indeed need a bit of protection to make it last a whole day of bashing. I'm currently building "pebble guards" cause it seems the smallest little pebble gets in the drive train and snaps the dog bones. Especially if you run lipo power. I will consider building to sell these items. We will see the responses to the other pics I post.

nitrosportsandrunner 12-26-2012 10:56 AM

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Yeah, this was actually the first which is a prototype and we have actually perfected it. I will post a few photos again later of the other full guard. I did re-sink these screws. This was a quick run we built and tested heavy bashing. It helped with flipping too. It bounces on the front and rear bumpers instead of breaking off the hubs. We just got into RC and will try to keep posting new ideas. The volcano is an excellent starter truck but does indeed need a bit of protection to make it last a whole day of bashing. I'm currently building ''pebble guards'' cause it seems the smallest little pebble gets in the drive train and snaps the dog bones. Especially if you run lipo power. I will consider building to sell these items. We will see the responses to the other pics I post.
what ive seen people do, who sell custom/handmade parts on ebay is this: list the item and in the description state that the item is made after the sale. Thus, the item may take 7 days before shipping.
Thise makes it easy as you dont have to make the chassis before hand. Wait to you have the sale, then make it. If you sell enough of them quickly, then it would make sence to produce them in small batches beforehand.

What type of metal are you using, and what do you cut it with?

Other tricks I use with the volcano is putting nitro fuel tubing bits inside the diff's drive cups. This puts the dogbone further into the wheel's drive cup. There is often too much play on the dogbones, and they can come to far out of the wheel's drive cups...especially when the wheels are fully turned. Thats often the situation which causes the dogbones to bind/bend or snap.

On top of that, moving the camber and steering links to the holes closest to the hub helps alot. I find that it helps nearly as much as upgrading to the alloy ones. And there isnt much need for camber adjsutments and such on a basher monster truck like the volcano.

Just for an idea, the only other good chassis protection you can buy is the Tboneracing bumpers and skid plates. They make them for the tornado and volcano. These are high grade, larger plastic bumpers. The bumpers run you $15 each (front and rear) So, $30 for both.
Your chassis has front/rear bumper...as well as tougher chassis and serves as a skid plate (protecting all those screws)
I dont think it would be unreasonable to ask $50-$60 shipped for that chassis. If you can build it for less than $15-$20 then there is some money to be made there.

NateDogg80 12-27-2012 07:14 AM

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Very nice job!

Let me know if you every start selling them! </p>

Johnathond22 12-28-2012 10:41 PM

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Ok guys, I am now finished the final run of the Full Gaurd. Have a look. Let me know any thoughts or ideas.
Details are that the chassis skid and core is made of 1/8 aluminum and the rear bumper is aluminum 5/16 thick plate for realism. The front Gaurd is 3/16 stainless rod. That was most likely the bulk of the work to shape a full realistic look. All is now Rhino lined and mounted ready for the bash!

Johnathond22 12-28-2012 10:44 PM

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Here are the rest of pics, only allowed to upload so many at a time in detail.

NateDogg80 12-29-2012 06:22 AM

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Thats bad as*!

Johnathond22 12-29-2012 09:49 AM

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Nate, I decided to build a few, if you want one I really just need something you would consider signature, like an ICon. These will be handmade so each can differ a little. Just provide some details as to what you would like to see in your own bumper. Ex: color, style of push, width of push. Keep in mind the aluminum used is thin to keep weight down so if it takes a heavy crash you may need to straighten it out.

nitrosportsandrunner 12-29-2012 10:55 AM

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Is that a axial or emaxx bumper on the back?

Johnathond22 12-29-2012 11:01 AM

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It is a "Shear Hobbyz" rear bumper as I made this too and we are calling my "Hobby Shop" Shear Hobbyz" we we refer to the RC fun. It's not really public as I am not sure if I am ready to help the public. It's al l still just for fun right now. I am considering becoming a red cat dealer though.

NateDogg80 12-29-2012 11:31 AM

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Iwould definitely want it black. The back bumper is fine how it is. Iwould maybe shorten the base of the front one a litlle, as well as the bars. Maybe to half of the fronttires. It be nice to protect the new body i got, cuz those stock bumpers are useless for that.

Johnathond22 12-29-2012 11:39 AM

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Ok, I need a measurement from the wood to about 1/2 inch under the lights, we don't want to block the lights. I'll make an eighteen wheeler style push bumper.

Johnathond22 01-01-2013 10:30 AM

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Nate, see photo attached. I redesigned the bumper. It's all large plate with shorter front push. How's this look?

nitrosportsandrunner 01-01-2013 11:59 AM

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Nate, see photo attached. I redesigned the bumper. It's all large plate with shorter front push. How's this look?
I like the width, but Id rather have the bumper be where the bumper on the body is. so maybe 1'' lower.
Certainly looks like it will protect the truck tho!

Johnathond22 01-01-2013 12:20 PM

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Nitro, I can make one for you too. What truck do you have? I do not have the chassis to outline of anything but Epx pro and Traxxas Tmax. Which Redcat do you have?

NateDogg80 01-03-2013 08:45 AM

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Yeah I like that one better.  wish I had that the other day.  I was showing it off to some of my nephews, and ran it right into the back tire of a mini van head on at about 40mph.  demolished the front shock tower, drive shaft and bent almost every shock on it.  So needless to say, I'll have to get back to you on measurements once a buy the new parts and rebuild it.</p>

Foxy 01-04-2013 02:23 AM

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Nate, save your money and get a better car, think of what you've spent on this truck now and what you could have had instead.

NateDogg80 01-19-2013 07:23 AM

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Hey John,

Finally put back together my epx pro. measurments are 3.5' from ground to front lights and they are 3.75' apart. the backs are 5' high and 3.75' apart. Let me know what else you need and what it will cost me. Thanks.

nitrosportsandrunner 01-19-2013 08:56 AM

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Nitro, I can make one for you too. What truck do you have? I do not have the chassis to outline of anything but Epx pro and Traxxas Tmax. Which Redcat do you have?
right now i only have the tornado epx pro.

Jswingle13 01-20-2013 10:30 AM

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I think I will be trying something similar on my nitro volcano..... During my final tank of break in I hit a pole just right and broke my front bumper. It took out a small piece of my body because the stock bumper provides no protection.

Johnathond22 01-31-2013 05:17 AM

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Nate,
I am done with your bumper. I will post a picture when I get back in the shop this morning. We will discuss shipping g and price then. Do you prefer pm or email?

Nitro,
Yours is done as well. Sorry for delays guys, work was hectic for a few weeks. Same question, pm or email?
Thanks

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NateDogg80 01-31-2013 06:12 AM

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pm?? Posted Marked?  Since i dont know what it means, email will work.  nate_dok@yahoo.com.  thanks.

Johnathond22 01-31-2013 07:49 AM

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That's funny, it is private message but its all good. I'll email you in short while.

Johnathond22 01-31-2013 11:47 AM

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See photos. One is tornado skid and other is volcano skid for semi. I don't have semi body so I just used my F250 to resemble the finished look. This post is tornado only. Next post is volcano semi.

Johnathond22 01-31-2013 11:52 AM

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Semi volcano below:

Johnathond22 01-31-2013 11:55 AM

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One last post... This is the aluminum dog bones I was telling you about nitro. We will stress test this weekend.

Johnathond22 02-07-2013 08:57 AM

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Any new photos? Have you installed the skid yet?

nitrosportsandrunner 02-07-2013 05:32 PM

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pics of chassis on tornado for john to see.
front needs added bend for kickup in the chassis.
Rear bumper could be brought in and lowered a bit.

And (this is preference) I think the front would look better if the chassis plate itself was widened to the point of the added bumper bar. This would slim down the look of the front while still giving it protection.

Also, I used a larger drill bit to add some countersink to the holes. Later, when I install flat/tapered screws they will be flush with the bottom of the chassis.

for your 1st shoot and not even having a tornado to go by, you got pretty dang close!


nitrosportsandrunner 02-07-2013 05:42 PM

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more pics

Johnathond22 02-08-2013 09:16 PM

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Any news from Nate? He should have his by now.

NateDogg80 02-09-2013 08:36 AM

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Just checked the tracking and it will be here today, finally!

NateDogg80 02-10-2013 07:45 AM

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Jonathon,
I finally got it yesterday. It looks good but, the front plate is a lil too wide and high, It covers up the headlights I have on it. Take a look below. It seems if I could reverse it, and make the front the back and visa versa it might work. BUT the chasis plate itself is oddly shaped so you can't just reverse it.</p>

Johnathond22 02-10-2013 10:24 AM

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Ill post a few pics of elevated body, I added extra insulators and pin my body in the last hole, that should allow lights to clear. Bumper looks good though. Definitely gonna protect the semi body. If you want a shorter front bumper I can build another. I guess building without having the truck is harder than I thought. Especially when there are lights involved. Did you bash test it? We are in North Louisiana today and there are several of the trucks with these bumpers and they are surviving ridiculous spills with the extra protection. Let me know your thoughts. If you need another, I can try to get a semi body from my Redcat LHS, we are rather close now as they want to carry these bumpers too now. I'll get yours right and most likely discontinue building without the RC in hand.

nitrosportsandrunner 02-10-2013 01:52 PM

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Jonathon,
I finally got it yesterday. It looks good but, the front plate is a lil too wide and high, It covers up the headlights I have on it. Take a look below. It seems if I could reverse it, and make the front the back and visa versa it might work. BUT the chasis plate itself is oddly shaped so you can't just reverse it.</p>
looks good with the black semi body!
will do an awsome job keeping that body from getting busted up.

I should have my chassis adjusted and new pics up in a couple of days.

NateDogg80 02-11-2013 07:59 AM

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i just had it taped to the chasis in those pics.  I'll mount it later today and give it a good lil bashing test and let you know how i make out.</p>

Rambo.kid 02-11-2013 06:18 PM

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Looks good, with the way I keep hitting things I will need a bumper that goes a the way around the car. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...wink_smile.gif


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