162" Art Scholl Super Chipmunk
01-13-2011, 02:39 AM
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RE: 162
Kelly, thanks for the nice words on my chippy. Yes i have over a dozen flights on it allready, and i really love it. It is a real floater on landings! I hope yours has the same flight characteristics as mine on landings, you'll love it. During my build i googled so many sites on chipmunks i ran our printer out of ink several times! Keep up the great work on yours, and at least we live close enough that i'll probably get to see ya fly it sometime......Gene
Specs....89" ws DL-50...22-10 prop...18lbs...Dynaflite kit highly modified....covered w Sig Koverall & Minwax polycrylic...Sprayed w latex paint Modeled after Rhodeasian air training group. Thanks for asking...Gene
Specs....89" ws DL-50...22-10 prop...18lbs...Dynaflite kit highly modified....covered w Sig Koverall & Minwax polycrylic...Sprayed w latex paint Modeled after Rhodeasian air training group. Thanks for asking...Gene
01-19-2011, 05:55 PM
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RE: 162
Today I cut out my horizotal stab ribs. I was going to make the whole tail removeable to fit my trailer but, I have a buyer for my old trailer. Now I will be getting a new larger one.
Now I will put the stab on a wing tube. She got a 57" stab and I have a small shop. If I have to store it in my shop, it will be a lot smaller this way.
More pics to come!!
Kelly
Now I will put the stab on a wing tube. She got a 57" stab and I have a small shop. If I have to store it in my shop, it will be a lot smaller this way.
More pics to come!!
Kelly
01-27-2011, 04:58 PM
#56
RE: 162
OK more progress!
First I had decided that there wasn't enough formers in the tailend. So I made a few more.
Every thing is now glued and when unbolted from the table it didn't spring into a banana. So now I'm really happy.[8D]
I need to order a stab tube tomorrow and hopefully I can get some sheeting on her this weekend.
Kelly
First I had decided that there wasn't enough formers in the tailend. So I made a few more.
Every thing is now glued and when unbolted from the table it didn't spring into a banana. So now I'm really happy.[8D]
I need to order a stab tube tomorrow and hopefully I can get some sheeting on her this weekend.
Kelly
01-31-2011, 08:40 AM
#57
RE: 162
Is there any good documentation on the Super chipmunks that Art Scholl uses?
Looking at youtube there seems to be at least two different ones. One is two seated and fixed gear, while another is a single seater with retracts?
I only have an ARF myself, but I love the way it looks and flies and I wouldn't mind scratch building something instead.
Looking at youtube there seems to be at least two different ones. One is two seated and fixed gear, while another is a single seater with retracts?
I only have an ARF myself, but I love the way it looks and flies and I wouldn't mind scratch building something instead.
02-14-2011, 06:00 PM
#60
RE: 162
Well tonite I finally got up the nerve to glue the horizontal stabs together. Still much to do to them. They were not as bad a job as I thought they would be. I pulled the tape on them and they are off only 1/8" with the fuse. I'll take that.
These were built mostly off the table. Besides I can still twist them a little before adding the sheeting.
Next will be the bottom of the fuse and then the rudder.
Kelly
BTW there is a 36" ruler lying in the center for size. The counterbalances still have to be added.
These were built mostly off the table. Besides I can still twist them a little before adding the sheeting. Next will be the bottom of the fuse and then the rudder.
Kelly
BTW there is a 36" ruler lying in the center for size. The counterbalances still have to be added.
02-15-2011, 05:41 PM
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RE: 162
I did a little test fitting tonight to see how everything was working out. It all lined up great. I was surprised[8D] She really growing in size now.
I need to order some more wood before I go much further. I do have a few things to keep me busy for a few weeks without the order. I'll work till my current stock is gone, which won't be long.
Later,
Kelly
I need to order some more wood before I go much further. I do have a few things to keep me busy for a few weeks without the order. I'll work till my current stock is gone, which won't be long.
Later,
Kelly
02-17-2011, 08:47 PM
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RE: 162
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
02-18-2011, 07:21 AM
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RE: 162
ORIGINAL: emilsanto
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
I had the plans doubled in size. All of the printers I found would only print a 36" wide sheet. (The original size plans were also 36") So, First I folded the plans in half ( or you can cut them in half) and ran it threw the scanner. Then print out the new size. Do both sides. I started with 3 sheet and ended with 6. (Double lol) I found OfficeMax had the best machine.(and there employee wasn't an idiot) It can handle paper as long as you need. Kinko's couldn't even figure out what I wanted to do. also there machine could only do a 120" long sheet. Plus they costed more than OfficeMax.
To double the size, you enlarge it by 200%
Hope this helps,
Kelly
02-18-2011, 10:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: Thunderbolt47
I had the plans doubled in size. All of the printers I found would only print a 36'' wide sheet. (The original size plans were also 36'') So, First I folded the plans in half ( or you can cut them in half) and ran it threw the scanner. Then print out the new size. Do both sides. I started with 3 sheet and ended with 6. (Double lol) I found OfficeMax had the best machine.(and there employee wasn't an idiot) It can handle paper as long as you need. Kinko's couldn't even figure out what I wanted to do. also there machine could only do a 120'' long sheet. Plus they costed more than OfficeMax.
To double the size, you enlarge it by 200%
Hope this helps,
Kelly
ORIGINAL: emilsanto
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
I had the plans doubled in size. All of the printers I found would only print a 36'' wide sheet. (The original size plans were also 36'') So, First I folded the plans in half ( or you can cut them in half) and ran it threw the scanner. Then print out the new size. Do both sides. I started with 3 sheet and ended with 6. (Double lol) I found OfficeMax had the best machine.(and there employee wasn't an idiot) It can handle paper as long as you need. Kinko's couldn't even figure out what I wanted to do. also there machine could only do a 120'' long sheet. Plus they costed more than OfficeMax.
To double the size, you enlarge it by 200%
Hope this helps,
Kelly
02-19-2011, 02:39 PM
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RE: 162
I have a question. In pic#1, would it be worth the estimated 8 to 10ozs of weight to cut them out. would the wing saddle still be strong enough?
Pix #2 and 3 are of the wing hold down plate. what do you guys think? It will have two more 1/4 ply plates laminated together for the threads/ inserts and of coarse tri stock gusset. no glue yet.
Kelly
Pix #2 and 3 are of the wing hold down plate. what do you guys think? It will have two more 1/4 ply plates laminated together for the threads/ inserts and of coarse tri stock gusset. no glue yet.
Kelly
02-19-2011, 05:09 PM
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RE: 162
All those cut outs add up over the coarse of the build. If it were mine I would cut them out. Have you seen todays planes their is almost no wood to them at all and they hold together. Im no expert and I sure don't guarantee my advice. I'm just saying what I would do. I really am enjoying this build. Takes alot of paitence to cut your own kit out.
02-19-2011, 08:28 PM
#69
RE: 162
Thanks for the replys guys, I have been adding up a total of wood removed from this build. So far I have saved about 7 to 8 lbs. So a 8 to 10 ozs saving wouldn't make or break a plane of this size. however every ounce adds up. It's not realistic to think I could ever get this one under the 55lbs weight, but I don't think it will be much more than that.
"You will never know how much you overbuilt something, but you will know when it wasn't strong enough"
Still thinking,
Kelly
"You will never know how much you overbuilt something, but you will know when it wasn't strong enough"
Still thinking,
Kelly
02-19-2011, 08:36 PM
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RE: 162
ORIGINAL: emilsanto
i would also cut them out . you dont want a flying tank.
you are useing a dle 30. correct you need to save weight for sure in the tail section
i would also cut them out . you dont want a flying tank.
you are useing a dle 30. correct you need to save weight for sure in the tail section
I haven't decided on an engine yet, but the main contestants are at a minimum. DA150 (used/ cheapest route) or a DLE 170, and maybe a DLE 222. The DLE 170 is winning right now.
Kelly
02-19-2011, 08:45 PM
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RE: 162
ORIGINAL: rgunder
I've doubled plans sizes before as well and I recommend that when you fold the plans, leave a little more than half the plan showing (maybe 2'' more) to allow you to overlap the two halves after scanning. I use gimp (www.gimp.org) for the image processing - it's an open source program that does nearly everything that Photoshop does, but for free!
ORIGINAL: Thunderbolt47
I had the plans doubled in size. All of the printers I found would only print a 36'' wide sheet. (The original size plans were also 36'') So, First I folded the plans in half ( or you can cut them in half) and ran it threw the scanner. Then print out the new size. Do both sides. I started with 3 sheet and ended with 6. (Double lol) I found OfficeMax had the best machine.(and there employee wasn't an idiot) It can handle paper as long as you need. Kinko's couldn't even figure out what I wanted to do. also there machine could only do a 120'' long sheet. Plus they costed more than OfficeMax.
To double the size, you enlarge it by 200%
Hope this helps,
Kelly
ORIGINAL: emilsanto
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
just one question, well a few LOL
where did you get your plan size increased .? and how did they do it. was it printed out on one sheet.?
i aways wondered what the process can you explain it for me
thanks
I had the plans doubled in size. All of the printers I found would only print a 36'' wide sheet. (The original size plans were also 36'') So, First I folded the plans in half ( or you can cut them in half) and ran it threw the scanner. Then print out the new size. Do both sides. I started with 3 sheet and ended with 6. (Double lol) I found OfficeMax had the best machine.(and there employee wasn't an idiot) It can handle paper as long as you need. Kinko's couldn't even figure out what I wanted to do. also there machine could only do a 120'' long sheet. Plus they costed more than OfficeMax.
To double the size, you enlarge it by 200%
Hope this helps,
Kelly
)I really didn't used the fuse plans much. Because of the "scale" mods I did to the fuse it almost made the plans useless. F-1 and 2 are the only ones that are still "by the plans" The flat sides on the rear had to GO. I just couldn't see a plane this large looking that bad.
Still having fun though!!
Kelly
04-01-2011, 01:21 PM
#75
RE: 162
After a few weeks off of getting my Mustang preped for the new season I have the Chippy back on the table.
I am finnally to the part I've been worried about. I've scratched a bald spot on my head working the rudder and stab out.
Right now the Vetical stab is glued in and ready for sheeting.
The rudder is just clamped together for testing. Because of the hidden linkage, I decided to use pocket hinges. This is where the head scratching came in. I used some brass tubes to extend the robart hinge to the pivot point.
I tested a 1.5" tube with a hinge glued into a block of wood. I destroyed the hinge trying to get it to fail.
The Horizontal stab shown in the last pic is 57" wide
Kelly
I am finnally to the part I've been worried about. I've scratched a bald spot on my head working the rudder and stab out.
Right now the Vetical stab is glued in and ready for sheeting.
The rudder is just clamped together for testing. Because of the hidden linkage, I decided to use pocket hinges. This is where the head scratching came in. I used some brass tubes to extend the robart hinge to the pivot point.
I tested a 1.5" tube with a hinge glued into a block of wood. I destroyed the hinge trying to get it to fail.
The Horizontal stab shown in the last pic is 57" wide
Kelly