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Old 05-24-2012, 09:07 AM
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Looking for a 95”-100” ws B-17, B-24, B-29 or A-20 Havoc.Except for the Jack Stafford B-24, which would be ok if I could get one at a decent price.I’m aware of the Dan Palmer 92” A-20 , but have not read good things about his plans.All the short kits are around 130”, putting the buildway out of my budget.
This brings me to the point of reducing plans down to the size plane I want and scratch building it.I want to build absolutely as light as possible as this will be my main flying plane - flaps and retracts only, relatively minimal cockpit and turret detail.
What plans to use, what plans not to use?

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Default RE: What plans to use, what plans not to use?

Scratchie,

Are you planning on going glow, gas, or electric?
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I was trying to avoid that question- I'm seriously considering electric
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There is nothing wrong with electric and when you have multiple power plants like airplanes mentioned, it's an advantage. I'm still mostly glow with a few smaller electrics but I would consider using electrics on a multi-engine airplane.
Have you considered throwing in the B-25 in your choices? I have an old picture of the B-25 my uncle flew as a gunner on sitting down on an incomplete fighter base in the Pacific. The CB snapped the photo just as it touched down and they released their parachutes out the tail gunner's position. The parachutes kept it from running off the island and into the water. The picture cost my uncle a quart of whiskey, the CB wouldn't take cash.
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The B-25 is a beautiful airplane, but there’s a lot of them out there – I’d build one if a ran into a great deal.otherwise I'll make something a little less common (B-24, A-20 Havoc). The main thing is that I want to building a multi-engine bomber.I like the idea of electric for reliability, especially in a twin.
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Given the criteria you started with I'd suggest having a good look at the good old Cleveland line of plans

http://www.clevelandairline.com/default.asp

The all started life out as detailed scale rubber powered free flights. That gives you the light part, converting them to electric should be relatively simple.

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Have you seen any of them, are they basically stick and tissue plans?
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wing made a 98" b-17 short kit out of business now but they show up now and then
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ORIGINAL: Scratchie

Have you seen any of them, are they basically stick and tissue plans?
Yes, but... I only have WW-I models from their line. I do know that the DC-3 was designed to be sheeted so I would assume the B-26 and other WW-II designs would be the same. You could always call them and ask.
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"glow, gas, or electric

I was trying to avoid that question"

Not possible. Glow/gas=apples: electric=oranges.

Structural requirements are entirely different, between them.

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Thereason Ididn't want to bring up electrics is the dirty looks you get from putting glow in a warbird. Could you imagine what they would say if I showed up with a giant scale electric B-17/B-24? Icould get kicked off the field!

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When they hear it fly with the sound generators... they'll certainly be doing the kicking. Kicking themselves in the head!
You may be the only person left on the strip.
Go for it.
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thanks for the encouragement, I'm going to send Cleveland an email - Iforgot about those guys until this post
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