Fuselage Lofting Programs
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Fuselage Lofting Programs
Does anyone know of any software that is designed to help with designing fuselages. I have found loftsman from Aerologics, but its expensive, and the site has not been updated for a couple of years.
What do others use?
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What do others use?
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
I asked this question back about three months ago. Got no straight answer then.
There was someone who explained how to do this with Compufoil prior to my asking, but that responce cannot be found now. I wish they would repeat it, as there are two of us now wanting the methods.
Wm.
There was someone who explained how to do this with Compufoil prior to my asking, but that responce cannot be found now. I wish they would repeat it, as there are two of us now wanting the methods.
Wm.
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
You know, the first time I heard about "lofting" it was in reference to boat hulls - perhaps you might wander over to woodenboat.com and look around there? Probably no in-depth information online, but I do distinctly remember a book about lofting in their online store. I would hope much of the practice would transfer over to aircraft fuses.
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
I have two AutoCAD programs I downloaded long time ago.
One uses conics to draw fuselage stations and the other lofts the sections
I have used only the conic program and have had success. But I have never used the lofting program before. I tried to search for the original source/author of the programs and was not able to find them.
If any one is interested send me a private message on RCU and I will email it whoever is interested in those programs.
Don't forget that the programs work only in AutoCAD, but it won't be too difficult to rewrite them in something more standalone that outputs DXF so that it can be imported in most every other CAD product.
I also have (this one, I wrote) an AutoCAD program that draws a normalized (x belongs to [0, 1])airfoil section in AutoCAD if the co-ordinates are given in the UIUC airfoil data format. If anyone is interested send me a PM
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One uses conics to draw fuselage stations and the other lofts the sections
I have used only the conic program and have had success. But I have never used the lofting program before. I tried to search for the original source/author of the programs and was not able to find them.
If any one is interested send me a private message on RCU and I will email it whoever is interested in those programs.
Don't forget that the programs work only in AutoCAD, but it won't be too difficult to rewrite them in something more standalone that outputs DXF so that it can be imported in most every other CAD product.
I also have (this one, I wrote) an AutoCAD program that draws a normalized (x belongs to [0, 1])airfoil section in AutoCAD if the co-ordinates are given in the UIUC airfoil data format. If anyone is interested send me a PM
e=mc2
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
CoosBayLumber,
Yes they are AutoLISP (not exactly pure LISP).
I am not sure, but AutoLISP might have been introduced in Release 11. (or maybe 10)
It should work in anything after that point.
e=mc2
Yes they are AutoLISP (not exactly pure LISP).
I am not sure, but AutoLISP might have been introduced in Release 11. (or maybe 10)
It should work in anything after that point.
e=mc2
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
Solidworks does it nicely.
There is a chapter in Raymer's aircraft design book that will tell you how to do it the hard way. [:@]
There is a chapter in Raymer's aircraft design book that will tell you how to do it the hard way. [:@]
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e=mc2
LISP or more correctly as you mentioned AutoLISP has been around back to R-8, but sometimes the commands cannot be recognised, as the Release versions do not have tha basic commands within them. Can you send me a text file to my PM? I will load it up, an give it a try next morning.
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LISP or more correctly as you mentioned AutoLISP has been around back to R-8, but sometimes the commands cannot be recognised, as the Release versions do not have tha basic commands within them. Can you send me a text file to my PM? I will load it up, an give it a try next morning.
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
bilko
I had the same question. I have turbocad 6 and recently bought a lofting add on. It seems OK but I have not made any fuses yet. However, I have done a few simple shapes that worked out well. I think version 7 or 8 may have the lofting tool built in. check out ebay for ver 6 or 7 you might get a good deal.
Kev
I had the same question. I have turbocad 6 and recently bought a lofting add on. It seems OK but I have not made any fuses yet. However, I have done a few simple shapes that worked out well. I think version 7 or 8 may have the lofting tool built in. check out ebay for ver 6 or 7 you might get a good deal.
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
Mechanical desktop has a loft feature.. But you might was well get Inventor now a days...
I beleive teh ACad version is the AME (Advanced modeling extension) extention, and that came with r-11. That was their 'intro to 3d modeling' application
I beleive teh ACad version is the AME (Advanced modeling extension) extention, and that came with r-11. That was their 'intro to 3d modeling' application
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
AutoCAD R8? I think this was release 1.8 as they didn't drop the 1. untill release 10 came out. I have been using AutoCad since release 1.4. That was when you did something right you saved your work after each step, no undo. I draw everything in 2d and don't worry about 3d as it takes to long. I then use the side profile to generate the top and bottom views. These are then used to generate all the fuse formers, elementry.
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
High, I am interested in obtaining the lofting and conical program if you don't mind.
I have autocad 2000 running on a dell 450, windows 98.
thanks Billy Lester
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I have autocad 2000 running on a dell 450, windows 98.
thanks Billy Lester
[email protected]
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
ORIGINAL: CoosBayLumber
There was someone who explained how to do this with Compufoil prior to my asking, but that responce cannot be found now. I wish they would repeat it, as there are two of us now wanting the methods.
There was someone who explained how to do this with Compufoil prior to my asking, but that responce cannot be found now. I wish they would repeat it, as there are two of us now wanting the methods.
Edit: Oops, here it is: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...tm.htm#1186079
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RE: Fuselage Lofting Programs
Rhino 3D has a comprehensive set of lofting commands and can export in DXF or DWG. The downside is there aren't any good books yet on Rhino so you pretty much have to use the included tutorials to learn the program. I've lofted wings using airfoils (you can loft along a curve to get elipsoid planforms) and fuselage sections, and the results have been quite good. Once the shape is lofted you can do boolian adds and subtracts with other solids to, say, cut out wheel wells and spars. Then when you section the solid to get the rib templates, the cut outs are already placed. On fuselages, you can drop out the shapes of the cockpit, fuel tank, wing saddle, etc. and the formers will reflect it. Much more elegant than AutoCAD, IMHO. There are trial and student versions available; the full version is expensive.
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