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    36" NotForSale build thread

    After over 20 years of building NotForSales, I swore I'd never build another, but after losing my last one about 6 years ago, I miss having one around. A friend of mine asked that I start a build thread, but I wanted to see if anyone was interested. I have built versions for 48 inch wings, 36 inch wings, and a profile twin variant in 3 different wingspans. The current version has a 36 inch wing, will be powered by a Thunder Tiger GP-42 equipped with a mousse-can pipe. I project it's weight to be between 2.5 and 3 pounds.

    If anybody is interested, I'll continue. I have taken a bunch of pictures and can post with explanations accompanying the pictures.


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    Sign me up.....The "Not For Sale" is one of my best flying planes........
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    Agreed. Not much interest so far, but I will begin posting soon.
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    Sign me up too. I’ve never had one but have always heard good things. So it is on my build list. I find all build threads interesting. Every model uses different construction methods. As well as every builder has his/her own methods too. I always find it a learning experience when I see how other people build.
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    I'm about 3/4's through the build with a slew of pictures to go along with the verbage. I'll get the pictures downloaded to my laptop this weekend and start posting next week.
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    I like the idea even if there is not too much interest. Where can I get plans?
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    Jim,

    I think some guy is selling plans on Ebay. I have been building these things since 1992 so I do it off the top of my head. The plane is all straight lines and angles so they are easy to build absolutely straight. I make them tough as I like to really toss mine around in the sky. The original is a 48" span, but this one is 3/4 size.
    Thanks for subscribing and I'll start posting in earnest next week.
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    Air age (man) has plans. http://www.airagestore.com/notforsale.html $14.95 + shippingWS: 53 in.; L: 36.25 in.; engine: .32 to .46 2-stroke; 4 channels; 1 sheet.Thinking about picking up a set myself.
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    I'm subscribed Have a set of the original plans and a copy of the build article. My flying buddy has let me fly his for fifteen years and I figure it is time I built my own...

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    15 years? I'd say he's a good friend!
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    Yes, he really is!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Crashalot View Post
    Air age (man) has plans. http://www.airagestore.com/notforsale.html $14.95 + shippingWS: 53 in.; L: 36.25 in.; engine: .32 to .46 2-stroke; 4 channels; 1 sheet.Thinking about picking up a set myself.
    Thanks. Ordered.

    Between this and the rubber to glo Spitfire and the 80" Edge, I think I might have enough to stay out of the bars more often than not.
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    Jim, glad I could help.
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    These are fun planes and are not hard to build. I built and flew the 48inch version for many years until the elevator separated from the fuselage during a high speed pass 10 feet off the runway. I made some changes like moving the access panel to the to of the fuselage this keeps the exhaust out of the inside of the plane.

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    I lost my last one 6 years ago when my peak detection charger said the transmitter battery was full. 6 minutes into the flight the plane was on its own. All I found was the engine, mousse-can pipe, and the landing gear. Two of these items will be on the new one.
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    Count me in too, have the plans and I'll appreciate the visual. Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by smkrcflyer View Post
    These are fun planes and are not hard to build. I built and flew the 48inch version for many years until the elevator separated from the fuselage during a high speed pass 10 feet off the runway. I made some changes like moving the access panel to the to of the fuselage this keeps the exhaust out of the inside of the plane.

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    Please share the changes you made. I am thinking of a Saito .56 on its side with the RX pack in the opposite wing (balance) and the tank behind the engine with servos in logical places. Your hatch idea sounds like a good one.

    I guess the question is how much hacking can I do to this one? I tend to bash things up pretty well...
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    I'll start posting the build next week. I went my own way when it comes to design. The aerodynamics are the same, but not much else.
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    Replying to Jim about the Satio .56 I have a Satio .50 on mine and really like it......
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd-3 View Post
    Replying to Jim about the Satio .56 I have a Satio .50 on mine and really like it......
    I am pretty sure I gave my Saito .50 away, so thanks for the info. I see party time coming soon! This might be as much fun as the .19 sized HOB P-51 with a .32ABC on it...

    Lifer, the aerodynamics are about all I am not willing to change without serious reflection. Except when I see a problem like on the Sig Kougar...I used to add 1 inch to the rudder and drop the fin back so the rudder and elevator hinge lines were in line. It tracked much better, lost the Dutch Roll tendency, did nice stall turns, and was nifty on the sticks when I was pushing hard at low speeds and altitudes. Since most of the 21 I went through died from about 4 feet it is safe to say I spend a lot of time in the weeds. :>)
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    I have no idea why I am having so much difficulty getting pictures and text onto RCU. I'm going to step away from it for now. Will try again tomorrow.
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