Folding wings
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Folding wings
Greetings all,
Has anyone got a system designed or implemented for folding wings? I am curious about how the design considers the various air loads. Especially the wings that fold at the root (near the fuselage). You could fold the wing at a farther station and can do with less strength as the loads are less. But at the root is a different story.
I did a search on RCU forums but most discussions seemed to talk about wings folding in flight!
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Has anyone got a system designed or implemented for folding wings? I am curious about how the design considers the various air loads. Especially the wings that fold at the root (near the fuselage). You could fold the wing at a farther station and can do with less strength as the loads are less. But at the root is a different story.
I did a search on RCU forums but most discussions seemed to talk about wings folding in flight!
Thanks
e=mc2
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RE: Folding wings
Intentionally folded wings (I have many examples of the other kind) are usually the province of free-flightere and hard-case scale nuts.. you might ask at those types of SIGs.
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RE: Folding wings
I have studied the folding wings on full size aircraft like the Tigercat and the Skyraider. The skyraider is the best example I have found, it has two hinges, one at 25% of the chord (approx) and another at perhaps at the 65% location. then there is a locking pin that keeps the wing from folding during flight. The full size skyraider uses a single cylinder to fold the wing at the 25% location.
Basically you would need two hinges, one cylinder to fold the wing and another locking pin, probably best at both hinges. The pin and air cylinder to fold wing would have to be sequenced:
to fold wing:
1) unlock pin
2) air to cylinder to fold wing
To unfold
1) un-fold wing
2) lock pin into place
I have designed a system on 3-D cad and it works, but it has never been flight tested or proven. In theory it should work. Look at the line of Bimba air cylinders when you build yours, and you also have to size the air cylinder to lift the weight of the wing. The calculations to figure out how much force is required to lift wing is simple engineering math. If the cylinder is too small the wing will never lift and just sag.
www. bimba.com
Try getting hold of Bob Holman Plans, he has pictures of Earl Aunes (sp?) corsair with folding wings and may even have plans.
Good luck,
Fred Cronenwett
Basically you would need two hinges, one cylinder to fold the wing and another locking pin, probably best at both hinges. The pin and air cylinder to fold wing would have to be sequenced:
to fold wing:
1) unlock pin
2) air to cylinder to fold wing
To unfold
1) un-fold wing
2) lock pin into place
I have designed a system on 3-D cad and it works, but it has never been flight tested or proven. In theory it should work. Look at the line of Bimba air cylinders when you build yours, and you also have to size the air cylinder to lift the weight of the wing. The calculations to figure out how much force is required to lift wing is simple engineering math. If the cylinder is too small the wing will never lift and just sag.
www. bimba.com
Try getting hold of Bob Holman Plans, he has pictures of Earl Aunes (sp?) corsair with folding wings and may even have plans.
Good luck,
Fred Cronenwett
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RE: Folding wings
clscale-RCU,
I guess I don't really want remote folding. I can do that manually. So the air cylinders are over kill more me (They will be a lot cooler though! ).
Do you mind sharing your CAD design with me? I know you have explained it in your post, but having a CAD file will help more.
Thanks!
e=mc2
PS - TallPaul, I am posting this message on Scale forum as well- thanks
I guess I don't really want remote folding. I can do that manually. So the air cylinders are over kill more me (They will be a lot cooler though! ).
Do you mind sharing your CAD design with me? I know you have explained it in your post, but having a CAD file will help more.
Thanks!
e=mc2
PS - TallPaul, I am posting this message on Scale forum as well- thanks
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RE: Folding wings
The CAD files are Pro-Engineer, student version. I haven't worked out all of the bugs, let me know what CAD program you have, I may be able to pull an IGES format of the 3-D shapes but you just can't modify that. My version in the Pro-E software allows you to fold the wings to see if everything clears.
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RE: Folding wings
I have access to some CAD and some semi CAD s/w.
I have AutoCAD 2004, 3dMax 5 and pro desktop express.
Whatever format works best for you will do.
Thanks a bunch
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I have AutoCAD 2004, 3dMax 5 and pro desktop express.
Whatever format works best for you will do.
Thanks a bunch
e=mc2