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Old 01-09-2015, 03:40 PM
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Thanks for the info. I want to try and finish this plane but my skill level is no where close to the original builder.
Old 01-09-2015, 04:07 PM
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It looks like it is basically finished.
I saw your post in the WACO Brotherhood thread. If you can post some pics of the pieces you are needing help with I will see if I can help.

It looks like your plane is pretty much ready for paint. Does it have the engine, cowl and radio gear?
Old 01-09-2015, 05:21 PM
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Anthony, the rib templates helped a lot. Thanks. I just covered the second 1/2 of the lower wing tonight. (koverall and minwax polycrylic). I still haven't decided what I am going to do about a tailwheel assembly. have to do that soon. Dave
Old 01-09-2015, 05:43 PM
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Glad they worked out for you.

I used a Robart strut for my 33% WACO. Not sure if they have one sized right for the 25% or not. Would be a good place to look.
The one I built for my Pepino WACO was a real PITA to build.
I am attaching a pic of my 33% version. It is my pride and joy.
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:03 PM
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What a beautiful bird, and yes I am looking at Robart. I may have to modify something. Dave
Old 01-09-2015, 07:25 PM
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Thanks,
The insignia blue and white give it a nice classic look I think.

The Robart tail gear has held up well on my plane. You may be able to use the same unit just cut the fork down slightly.
Old 01-10-2015, 04:57 AM
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I've identified most of the pieces. They are access panels for the top of the wing and fuselage. There is no motor. There is a cowl that I might be able to use. It does not have the bumps on it. The servos mounted in it are World 1/4 size. No receiver. I am trying to guess at how he was going to do the rivets. It looked like he had drilled holes to install pins?
Old 01-10-2015, 05:37 AM
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The only rivets on the WACO are on the fuel tank on the top center section and the cowl and the fairing under the bottom center section. The rest of the fairings are attached with screws. On my 25% I used #-00 sheet metal screws 3/16" long on all the fairings. Maybe the holes you are seeing are for the screws?

For rivets I used glue drops. On my 33% I made rivets from aluminum cans. I used a metal rod to punch rivet heads out of the aluminum. Looks very good but a lot of work.
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Old 01-10-2015, 08:33 AM
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Anthony, which robart gear did you use, I am looking but it seems most are too wide. Dave
Old 01-10-2015, 09:01 AM
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I used Robart #657,
You may be able to use a vice to squeeze the fork together a bit and cut the fork length a little shorter and then drill new axle holes.
I am not sure if the width of the mounting plate would be an issue for you or not. I will attach a pic of the gear mounted in my WACO.

I had crashed my WACO on landing, too slow on final and stalled and bounced it off the runway. This required a total rebuild of the fuse and repair of all 4 wing panels. This pic was taken during the rebuild.
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Old 01-10-2015, 09:13 AM
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Anthony, that is the gear I was looking at. thanks for the heads up. Dave
Old 01-10-2015, 02:59 PM
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Can you tell me what fittings I am supposed to use with this?
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Wood1clock
Can you tell me what fittings I am supposed to use with this?

I have no idea what the builder had in mind there. There is nothing I can think of that is on the plans or the full scale WACO in that location. That one has me stumped.
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That may be an attachment point for some flying wires????? I built mine into the "N" (interplane) strut mounts. If it's not that I have no idea. Dave
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Originally Posted by jetq36s
That may be an attachment point for some flying wires????? I built mine into the "N" (interplane) strut mounts. If it's not that I have no idea. Dave
That is a good point I hadn't considered. If so he must have intended to build a bracket to hold the wires.
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I think that it is for flying wires but I can't figure out what kind of attachment to use. The holes are metal tubing with no theads. I thought that maybe the Pepino plans showed them.
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Wood1clock and Anthony,

Attached are 2 photos of the same areas on NC 14081 (both sides). The problem I see is that there are 2 wires going into the wing, covered with rubber covers glued on. The model only has one hole. Your guess' are as good as mine. Personally I would just cover it over and forget about it until I found out what it is for.


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Old 01-14-2015, 04:34 AM
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I have decided that these are for the flying wires. There are enough holes for all the wires. My problem is coming up with a way to anchor them in the holes and still look scale. I was hoping for some kind of plug that I could put in the hole to attach the wires. Also the fuselage has holes for the wires but no visable way to hook them up. I am assuming that the previous builder had a plan but I don't know what it was. I thought that maybe someone with the Pepino plan knew.
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Unfortunately this is not part of the plans,
These things are usually left up to the builder to decide and evidently he had a plan. Unfortunately your guess is as good as mine on how he was going to go about it. Ken Spears AKA Big_Bird just made wires from elastic chord and attached them with hooks. With the wings being built as one piece the flying wires are not functional. You just need to find a way to hook the wires up where they will stay attached.
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Old 01-14-2015, 03:19 PM
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O.K. I thought that the wires had to be functional. I'll look at other ways.
Old 01-20-2015, 11:16 AM
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Do you think a DLE 35 motor will fly this thing?
Old 01-20-2015, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Wood1clock
Do you think a DLE 35 motor will fly this thing?
I would not recommend it, the DLE-35 would be marginal at best. I would go with at least a 50cc engine. The DLE-55 would be a good choice.
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O.K. Thanks.
Old 01-21-2015, 05:19 PM
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Anthony, I received my robart #657 tail wheel assembly, I have modified the fork and am happy with the results. Now to figure a clean way to mount it.

Wood1clock,, as far as the flying wires if he was going to use elastic, maybe he was just going to shove the elastic into the holes with a small dowel attached that would end up perpendicular to the hole after it was inserted.?? Or maybe he was going to tap the brass insert. Dave
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I might try epoxy or JB weld. I have made small attachment spades to fit into the holes. Then I could use clevis to hook onto wires. My only hold up is not knowing how he secured the metal tubes into the wings. I am in no hurry to screw this up.


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