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Old 02-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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I have used gorilla glue to plank a limited portion of a model from the bottom of the firewall to the first former. The area is seven inches wide by six inches long. You can see the area behind the engine and firewall in the image. It extends up to the leading edge of the landing gear. The planks are 3/8 by 3/16 inch thick balsa that wind up 1/8 inch thick after sanding. The model has been flown for about 100 hours with a Brison 2.4. I inspected the glue joints for degradation and have not noticed any. Is the use of this type of glue in a high vibration environment a sure failure?
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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It sounds to me like you are proving it is not a sure failure. I never had an airplane last 100 hours of flight time.
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I hope your right. Dan
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Mike, You're right. I just went and checked my flight log. It's more like 25 hours of flight time. I don't know where I got that 100 hours from. I was probably bragging. In any case, the glue joints still look solid. Thanks, Dan
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I have used Elmer's polyurethane glue on high stress, high vibration areas with no problems; on planes with over 100 hours of flight time. I have seen older epoxy joints shatter like glass if stressed.
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Thanks for the input. I'll wait to see what happens. So far the joints look good. Dan.
Old 02-11-2008, 03:53 PM
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I've been using it on my pylon racing firewalls at over 20,000 rpm and they have been holding up fine.
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Good input daven. My joints are also hoding up. Dan.
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I have dropped my 35# plywood PTB drop 4' onto a concrete floor and only had dented wood.

Titebond II. Most non-hitech glues, are very shock resistant.

Somewhere, I read that Epoxy keeps curing in hardness long after we are satisfied with it in 24 hours.
Sort of like Concrete.

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ORIGINAL: cyclops2


I have dropped my 35# plywood PTB drop 4' onto a concrete floor and only had dented wood.

Titebond II. Most non-hitech glues, are very shock resistant.

Somewhere, I read that Epoxy keeps curing in hardness long after we are satisfied with it in 24 hours.
Sort of like Concrete.

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Right you are on the epoxy. The breakage I referred to was on a 1/3 Lanier Extra that was partially built 8 or 10 years ago. I was finishing it for a friend last year, and noticed all it took was a small bump, and the joints where the spruce longerons met the fuselage formers just broke away. The epoxy flaked off and fell to the floor. I repaired the joints with poly glue.
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Ha Ha.
55 years ago I used Polyester Epoxy. 10 years later it still had not fully hardned.

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