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Old 02-03-2009, 01:04 PM
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No worries, 1: to upload a pic just click below the box where you write where it says "Click here to upload images and files) then just select the pics from the directory pull down menu, and if not just send me a private message in spanish .
About the plane, jesus 20 years now waiting to be flown.. you'd better make sure its structurally ok. Whenever you have again your cam i would love to have some pics ([email protected]). Hope you got that from the CG right.
Hey we may live just 2h apart, I'm from Huercal Overa, thats a bit less than 2h to the Alicante airport to which I usually go when flying (real flying that is...) if I ever get to drop by in Elche will let you know if you dont mind . bye
Old 02-03-2009, 02:33 PM
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This may not be relevant to a large model but I have found the David Boddington 34 inch plan and the CG is almost at the front of the top wing about quarter inch from LE on a almost 5inch chord. If you calculation differs a lot then I would check before risking it!
I suggest looking at Gordon Whitehead's book for an exact way to calculate.
Old 02-03-2009, 02:40 PM
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Hi,fred here.would you take a look at my 2 previous logins
Old 02-03-2009, 02:47 PM
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Your model is 2 metres?
In proportion perhaps 14 or 15 mm would be the same.
Is your calculation about 15 millimetres from LE of top wing ?
Of course either model may be non scale and could not be compared.

Boddo said in his article for the 34 inch "supported at the leading edge of the top wing it was little nose down" & " I was not perturbed by the forward CG"
Old 02-03-2009, 02:49 PM
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Thanks KDC, yes, that book is still very useful,I have one here. I was just probing to see if anyone had previous experience of one of these larger models.
Old 02-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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You will see I added the quote from 'Boddo' which slightly contradicts his plan!

There is nothing like experience with the same size but Boddo should be in the same area as you.
Old 02-08-2009, 04:09 PM
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I am still looking to build a hyperbipe with a ws of approx 60 to 68 inches.want to use foam wings and wondering about a glass cowl. any help is appreciated..
Old 02-08-2009, 05:19 PM
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cloudancer03,

See post #12 on this thread....there is a link to a website that now carries the old Nexus plans who offer a nice plan for a 60" span Hiperbipe.
Old 02-09-2009, 06:12 AM
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Be sure you refer to the right posting the Xlist site is not the one for this plan it is just for the discontinued plans.

Current Nexus/Highbury/Argus/Magicalia/Encanta plans are avail from

www.myhobbystore.com You can also refer to their other site with discussion forums and articles etc www.modelflying.co.uk

You might also be interested to see their other 'backstagger' cabin bipe Lyra plan No RC1729. 52 inch semi scale cabin bipe with a much slimmer cowl and elegant fin. This was published in RCME November 1993
Old 02-09-2009, 08:55 AM
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Hi KDC,I have just done a physical check, and yes it does come out at approx 15mm back from L.E. of upper wing
Old 10-01-2009, 02:43 PM
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My thoughts are to bump this plane's w.s. up to about 72" and use a DLE55.....also don't the tail feathers looks a bit small? Would enlarging them somewhat help out in the aerobatic department? I'm interested in the overall look of the Hyperbipe, but I'm not planning on entering scale competition with it....just want to horse it around and have some fun.

Hope I didn't upset all the purists with these thoughts.

Old 10-02-2009, 08:26 AM
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not at all.I am making mine 60 inches and for what I want thats plenty.I am looking at dl's new DL30 for an extra 260 I have yet to put together.I was going with with a G26 but the weight difference is significant enough to try the new DL.As for the tail feathers several of us have asked the same and may enlarge it a bit and like you I am not building it to win a contest just something unquie and and I love the looks.I am in the process of getting the materials together and contacted fiberglass specialtes about the cowl.I know I can make one if need be but I was supposed to get them some measurements as they have one but neither of us is sure it would fit.hope you have some pics to share when its done.
Old 10-02-2009, 09:03 AM
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Hope to get started in Jan. 2010.....right now I'm in the middle of building a Dan Santich Cobra...double gull-wing bipe. It's 76" w.s. and is a great looking plane. I've fitted it with a ZDZ80 engine; and also made a couple of changes to the plane itself. There are some posts about double-gull wing bipes in this forum; and I posted a few pictures of my progress on it.

When I get the plans for the Hyperbipe I'll make my final decision for the w.s....right now I'm thinking about 72", but I would kinda like to try out the DLE111 soon, so maybe I'll bump it up a little more to handle that engine. When I get things in the works I'll definitely post some pix and solicit any suggestions from builders and flyers of this plane.

'Til then,
Steve

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Old 10-06-2009, 06:57 AM
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lol.your playing with the big boys..I decided 25 percent works best with me though I had a couple big boys.as for gull wings the on ly project I have yet to tackle in that category is the corsair.one of my flying buds has a deep passion for WW1 stuff and has a 1911? clam.both the wings and the stab are gull wings.there wasd a black and red gull wing monoplane featured in one of the rc mags a while back that had my interesy.I believe its a 30's era racer.I was thinking after the hyperbipe is done over the winter maybe build a mystery air ship.every year I attend the neat fair near here and it always makes an appearance now for that plane I think a 50cc would be spectacular to say the least.I have one other bipe and thats the Waco YMF from pica a sweet flying plane.its getting old but its one of my favorite ships to fly.
Old 10-06-2009, 10:42 AM
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Sounds like you've got some good birds to fly for sure. Perhaps the black and red 30's racer, gull-wing monoplane you refer to is the Hall Bulldog. A couple of guys have posted some pix of it here on RCU, but the truly definitive version of this absolutely beautiful plane is on the Scale Modeler site and was built by a chap in England. It's huge! The thread is worth tracking down.

Your concern about my "playing with the big boys" is appreciated, but I'm afraid it comes 25 years too late. In 1984 I attended my first QSAA in Las Vegas and was captured by the big gassers; and ever since then that's been my true love. All of my planes are large gassers, but after finishing the last one, a 37.5% Yak with a ZDZ160super, 121" w.s. and 40#. I'm being forced to accept the fact tham I'm getting older. It's becoming more difficult each year to transport them, so I've decided to downsize to the 50cc-80cc size.

The DLE111 I mentioned is not really all that much bigger than the 80's and 95's I have already (and am still able to carry around), so I figure I'll just make the wings two piece and store the finished plane close to my Suburban. It's difficult not to fall into the "bigger is better" mentality and want to make them bigger, but I've got to keep them manageable. The Cobra I'm building is just 76" w.s. and I keep thinking there's something missing, but it should turn out to be just right for size I think.

The plans for the Hyperbipe haven't arrived yet, so I haven't yet made up my mind as to the final size of the plane. I will definitely enlarge the tail feathers to enhance the performance, but I'll try to keep it reasonable. The overall appearance of this plane appeals to me so I'll keep it original as possible.

Good luck with your build,
Steve

Old 10-06-2009, 10:49 AM
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Talking about the Hall Bulldog made me want to take another look at the RCBuilder site. Here's the site and thread if you want to peruse it.

Warning: put on your drool bib before you go to this site!
Steve

http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...12&PN=3&TPN=13
Old 10-06-2009, 10:54 AM
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The previous site address I posted takes you to page 13...this one starts at the beginning.....you might just as well get the whole enchilada!

http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...212&PN=3&TPN=1
Old 10-16-2009, 11:30 AM
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OK, the plans for the Hyperbipe are on the way....will decide how much to enlarge them when they arrive. By the way, anybody know the exact width of the DLE111 including the plug and boot? The engine site doesn't mention it, but I've heard somewhere that the engine w/o the plugs and boots is about 10"". If you happen to know please post it so I'll know about how big the Hyperbipe needs to be.

Take-off is optional....landing is mandatory,
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:15 PM
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I have the email address of a guy who commercialises the DLE. If you want (and nobody happens to reply with what you need earlier) drop me an email and Ill give you his email address, he will be able to tell you for sure..
Old 10-21-2009, 10:09 AM
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:26 AM
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aeroscale thanks for sharing those photos .I got a set of plans for a hyperbipe and am wondering what size are you making it ? ws and powerplant.

I havent got the wood yet and was looking around to see if someone would cut a short kit for me or I'll just cut my own parts.
Old 10-21-2009, 11:29 AM
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upon closer look I see you sheeted the tail section and constructed the fuse formers a bit differently than shown on my plans what plans are you using..?
Old 10-21-2009, 02:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: cloudancer03

upon closer look I see you sheeted the tail section and constructed the fuse formers a bit differently than shown on my plans what plans are you using..?
See the link cloudancer03.

http://www.richuravitch.com/
Old 10-21-2009, 03:35 PM
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Hyberbipers,

The plans just arrived today!....Wingspan is 57" and the fuse is about 9" at the firewall. My friend recently purchased a DLE111 (this is the engine I've decided to use) and he told me the engine with plugs and boots is slightly less than 12", so I'm thinking of using a factor of 1.44 on the plans to bring the fuselage width to 13" and the wingspan to 82". Sounds like a manageable size inasmuch as the wings are plug-ins and the fuse will definitely slide in the back of my Suburban....so when I get some time I'll draw up the plans and order the lumber.

My Cobra is back on the line after all my kids, grandchilden, etc moved to China and Las Vegas. I'm all alone again, so now I can get going on the double gull-wing bird. The holidays always seem to demand a lot of time so I never accomplish as much as I would like, but perhaps I can get the Hyperbipe started sometime in Jan-Feb. Would like to have both these birds ready for springtime flying.

Would welcome any suggestions from those who have built and flown the Hyperbipe....I'm still planning on enlarging the tailfeathers a little for sure. Any thing else you might want to throw at me before I get started would be great.

Hang in there,

Steve

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