Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Scratch Building, Aircraft Design, 3D/CAD
Reload this Page >

Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Community
Search
Notices
Scratch Building, Aircraft Design, 3D/CAD If you are starting/building a project from scratch or want to discuss design, CAD or even share 3D design images this is the place. Q&A's.

Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-26-2002, 03:37 AM
  #1  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Which airfoil design is the best for an aerobatic/sport glow airplane? It has a low-wing design and a 60in. wing span. Which airfoil should I use in Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2? (I downloaded this program, and don't know which one to choose out of the 1800 choices.)


Thanks-Brian
Old 03-26-2002, 04:27 PM
  #2  
erwinf
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sucat Paranaque Philippines
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

You can try this:

S8035 for RC aerobatic 14% thick

I haven't personally tried it but the name says it's for RC aerobatic.

Hope this helps.
Old 03-26-2002, 05:28 PM
  #3  
wled123
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: VIRGINIA, VA
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Go for a NACA 0012

Don't waste your time on those fancy airfoils. Without going into airfoil theory, L/D curves and Reynolds numbers, go for a standard symmetrical airfoil with about a 12% to 15% thickness ratio, hence a NACA 0012 thru NACA 0015. Easy to cut a foam core or build up from ribs/caps. If you are looking for something easy to stall (i.e. snap roll), go with the thinner airfoil and sharpen the leading edge, you pay for it with higher stall speeds. For good landing characteristics (i.e. GP Ultrasports), go with the thicker airfoil and nice blunt/round leading edges. Something else that is typically done is go with a 12% at the root and 15% at the tip to prevent tip stalling. And then there is washout, but don't worry about that for now.
Old 03-26-2002, 08:01 PM
  #4  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Would a wing with 12% at the root, and 15% at the tip be good at aerbatics and getting around?
Old 03-26-2002, 08:21 PM
  #5  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

This is my current airfoil. I decided on this one before this forum.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	6871_3459.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	14.2 KB
ID:	4868  
Old 03-27-2002, 12:37 AM
  #6  
irishcarbomb
Senior Member
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Looks like the S8035 14% from Profili. i am using that on my aerobatic design. having Flying Foam cut my cores.
Old 03-27-2002, 02:26 AM
  #7  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Actually it is the first one; It is 12% JOUKOWSKI. I might go with the NACA 12% as root, and NACA 15% as tip, but I don't know if this would be good for sport flying and aerobatics.
Old 03-27-2002, 02:50 AM
  #8  
MiL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

what about Airfoils for funfly planes?

My first design/scratch project is a profile Funfly for a .25 bushing motor i've got. I just cut the ribs the other night, I used Profili to generate a NACA 0018 and then modified it by moving the "fat" part a little farther forward (which also made the LE a little more blunt).

Here's a pic that shows the shape of the fuse and the airfoil.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	6904_2710.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	16.5 KB
ID:	4869  
Old 03-27-2002, 03:34 AM
  #9  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Cool design!
Old 03-27-2002, 05:54 AM
  #10  
can773
My Feedback: (1)
 
can773's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Calgary, AB, CANADA
Posts: 2,286
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Originally posted by Someone11
Would a wing with 12% at the root, and 15% at the tip be good at aerbatics and getting around?

This is becoming mainstream on all high end pattern models, not that thick (11 root 12 tip or 12 root 13 tip). The general idea is for snap recovery, in order to help prevent over rotation after a violent snap. Use that with around a 33%-35% high point and you will be ok. Also running the ailerons and elevator straight off the end of the wing will improve snap performance.
Old 03-27-2002, 06:25 AM
  #11  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default My new airfoil

I desided to go with a NACA12% root, and NACA 15% tip. Here is what it looks like:
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	6914_3459.jpg
Views:	61
Size:	24.6 KB
ID:	4870  
Old 04-02-2002, 01:29 AM
  #12  
CrazyHerb-RCU-delete
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Hey MiL!!
Got any dxf drawings of that profile?
I like the looks of that profile....BIG rudder!!

And I happen to just have a OS .25 sitting right here next to me!!

If you build it let us know how it goes!!

High Flights!!
CrazyHerb
Old 04-02-2002, 02:18 AM
  #13  
MiL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

I'll try to get a picture up pretty soon. When i drew it up, i didnt put much thought into mounting the radio components and stuff so it's been kind of slow building trying to figure out how to make it all work. And of course i've run into several small problems that i didn't think about untill i saw it in physical form in front of me. Hopefully will be flying before too long though. School has started and that will also slow me a little. I will definitely make a post when there is progress though.

I'm not too proud of my .dwg right now (it's kinda like my workshop, messy with a few different projects going on) but i guess i don't have to show off or anything so i'll go ahead and send you a copy if you'd like. Let me know your preferred email for recieving attachments.
Old 04-03-2002, 03:18 AM
  #14  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Originally posted by can773



This is becoming mainstream on all high end pattern models, not that thick (11 root 12 tip or 12 root 13 tip). The general idea is for snap recovery, in order to help prevent over rotation after a violent snap. Use that with around a 33%-35% high point and you will be ok. Also running the ailerons and elevator straight off the end of the wing will improve snap performance.
I'm not designing my plane for pattern flying though. I want my plane to be more aerobatic. With my selected wing thicknesses (12% root, 15% tip) would it still be adequate for aerboatics/sport? I'm fairly new to this hobby and dont know if there is a big difference between pattern and aerobatic wings, so I'm sorry if I'm making any of of frustrated by having to explain this stuff to a "newb" like me I appreciate all of your replys and views!

Thanks for your time - Brian
Old 04-04-2002, 02:16 AM
  #15  
MiL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

For CrazyHerb and anyone else intersted, here is a link to a thread in the Fun Fly forum where there is a picture of my plane and more info about it.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...374&forumid=21

MiLL
Old 04-04-2002, 02:27 AM
  #16  
Mike James
Senior Member
 
Mike James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Anchorage, AK
Posts: 2,565
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Airfoil performance

You can get as technical as you want on this subject, but a general rule, when dicussing the symmetrical airfoils (above) with 9 to 15 percent thickness, is that if 14 percent is about typical for Pattern (i.e., an Eppler 168) then the slightly thicker sections you've selected will allow for slower flight and landings, due to their greater drag.

With a medium size sport plane, you won't see huge dramatic differences in these airfoils. (Of course, that's assuming your area and aspect ratio is also fairly typical.)
Old 04-04-2002, 05:20 AM
  #17  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Ok, I'll keep that in mind MikeJames0. Thanks for your reply!
Old 04-07-2002, 03:25 AM
  #18  
KC10Chief
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Elmendorf AFB, AK
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

I'd have to agree with using a fully symmetrical airfoil like a NACA 0012 to 0015. If you're wanting to build a plane more like a fun fly plane, then I'd recommend the Eppler 473. I used it on the plane under my screen name. Flies great! You can't go wrong with a NACA airfoil either. Good luck! Matt
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	7811_6919.jpg
Views:	36
Size:	27.3 KB
ID:	4871  
Old 04-09-2002, 12:09 AM
  #19  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Symmetrical?

My wing will have slight dihedral in it. It has a 3 degree dihedral. But to my question.... what do you mean by symmetrical? Is this just meaning wings the the same shape on top and bottom? (is it just like in math with symmetrical shapes and such?)

Thanks - brian
Old 04-09-2002, 12:57 AM
  #20  
KC10Chief
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Elmendorf AFB, AK
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

Someone, a symmetrical airfoil is an airfoil that is the exact same shape on either side of the chord. Look at any NACA airfoil that starts with the numbers 00. I think anything between a NACA 0012 and a NACA 0015 would be good for your plane. The last two numbers are the airfoils thickness in relation to the length of the chord. For example, the height of a NACA 0015's thickness from top to bottom is 15% of the length of the airfoils chord (leading edge to trailing edge). The first two numbers have something to do with how far bach on the chord the highest point on the airfoil are. Not exactly sure how that works. With NACA, the first two numbers starting with 00 means that the airfoil is fully symmetrical. Good luck! Matt
Old 04-09-2002, 04:11 AM
  #21  
Someone11-RCU
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which airfoil for me? (using Stefano Duranti's Profili 1.2)

THANKS!

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.