What is this?
12-05-2005, 01:56 AM
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What is this?
Can anyone identify this plane? It has been around the block a few times. One fellow thought it might be a Goldberg model.
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12-05-2005, 07:43 AM
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RE: What is this?
It looks like the old Andrews H-Ray from the late 60's or early 70's. Andrews was the maker of the 60 size Aeromaster bipe (Outstanding flyer) and had a couple of beginner models one of which was a shoulder wing S-Ray and the high wing model known as an H-Ray. Excellent flyers and kit still seen occasionally. ed
12-05-2005, 12:50 PM
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RE: What is this?
I think the plane that the one fellow might be referring to when he mentioned Goldberg is the "Freedom 20".Check out the specs and see if it matches your particular aircraft.The aircraft is just too far away in the picture to identify it for sure,but even still,it could be anything.Scratch built,kit built,modified.....who knows for sure except the guy that initially built it?No way to be absolutely sure.The best you can hope for here is a good educated guess.
http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/freedom20.htm
12-05-2005, 12:55 PM
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RE: What is this?
Come to think of it........it could also be aGreat Planes PT series trainer on floats or possibly a Sig LT series trainer on floats as well.If you could supply more information on the model it would help to narrow down the possible choices a bit.
12-05-2005, 07:45 PM
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I think it's a PT-40. Not a Goldberg Eagle: The airfoil of the iggle has a dowel leading edge and isa a lot sharper than the one in the pic here.
PT-40s are vastly underrated and unknown. They are fabulous trainers. Fly great, easy to build, and sturdy as a baseball bat.
PT-40s are vastly underrated and unknown. They are fabulous trainers. Fly great, easy to build, and sturdy as a baseball bat.
12-06-2005, 01:38 PM
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RE: What is this?
Looking at that picture again Jim,I think it probably is one of the PT trainers on floats because of the amount of dihedral in the wing.The Freedom 20 has less dihedral than this,unless this model has been modified or kit bashed.Who knows for sure?
Did you know that the original PT-20 and 40 appeared as construction articles back in RCM years before it was ever produced as a kit by Great Planes?The month and year?August of 1985.Both designed by long time RCM columnist Stu.Richmond.Both of these plans are still available from RCM and are plans #947($8US) for the PT-20 and plan#948($9US) for the PT-40.They are super simple to construct and are really nice flyers also.Like Jim was saying,they are also a very durable design as well.Very forgiving to say the least.These would make great first time float flyers as well.Nice planes to learn to get your feet wet with
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Jawsmon,what size engine is in this plane and what is the wingspan?The PT-20 had a 48" wing span and the PT-40 had a 60" wingspan if that helps.
Did you know that the original PT-20 and 40 appeared as construction articles back in RCM years before it was ever produced as a kit by Great Planes?The month and year?August of 1985.Both designed by long time RCM columnist Stu.Richmond.Both of these plans are still available from RCM and are plans #947($8US) for the PT-20 and plan#948($9US) for the PT-40.They are super simple to construct and are really nice flyers also.Like Jim was saying,they are also a very durable design as well.Very forgiving to say the least.These would make great first time float flyers as well.Nice planes to learn to get your feet wet with.Jawsmon,what size engine is in this plane and what is the wingspan?The PT-20 had a 48" wing span and the PT-40 had a 60" wingspan if that helps.
12-23-2005, 03:47 PM
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RE: What is this?
The fuse length is 56"
Wingspan 65 1/2"
Thunder Tiger .61 2c
I don't know if the wing caps are add-ons or part of the original build. There is a plastic strip on the bottom side of the wing cap. The floats were added last year.
Wingspan 65 1/2"
Thunder Tiger .61 2c
I don't know if the wing caps are add-ons or part of the original build. There is a plastic strip on the bottom side of the wing cap. The floats were added last year.
12-23-2005, 05:36 PM
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RE: What is this?
The fuselage and tail are from a PT 40. The wing is from something else, or more likely scratch built and added in place of the flat bottom PT40 wing. (Check out the wing saddle.)
Just call it the Mongrel, fly it and have fun with it.
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Just call it the Mongrel, fly it and have fun with it.
Jim
12-23-2005, 06:13 PM
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Yep. PT-series planes had flat bottom airfoils and no tip plates. But that definitely looks to be the fuse from one.
Yet another instance of someone who could not color inside the lines in Kindergarten.
Ernst water rudders, and what appear to be John Sullivan floats from RnZ models.
Yet another instance of someone who could not color inside the lines in Kindergarten.
Ernst water rudders, and what appear to be John Sullivan floats from RnZ models.
12-23-2005, 08:13 PM
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RE: What is this?
The wing has quite a bit of dihedral. I bought this on RCU and haven't flown it yet. When I quit landing my Nexstar on the nose wheel first then I will give it a try.
