Lake Buccaneer
03-10-2006, 05:54 AM
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RE: Lake Buccaneer
Hi Flybug,
I once had a Pilot kit ,and I mean KIT! of a Lake Buc. A beautifully presented mass of parts that grew into a fine a/c to fly from the land, but from water......! Check uk ebay as i saw a full kit on sale less than a week ago.
My memory tells me it was approx. 50" for .25-.40 glow. The motor thrust line is all important so I would suggest testing before final final(if you see what I mean)
fixing of the pylon.
Dave.
I once had a Pilot kit ,and I mean KIT! of a Lake Buc. A beautifully presented mass of parts that grew into a fine a/c to fly from the land, but from water......! Check uk ebay as i saw a full kit on sale less than a week ago.
My memory tells me it was approx. 50" for .25-.40 glow. The motor thrust line is all important so I would suggest testing before final final(if you see what I mean)
fixing of the pylon.
Dave.
03-10-2006, 10:59 PM
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RE: Lake Buccaneer
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This topic has been discussed before. Do a search and you should turn up the earlier thread. The Pilot kit was mostly ply and would probably come out to heavy to get off the water.
This topic has been discussed before. Do a search and you should turn up the earlier thread. The Pilot kit was mostly ply and would probably come out to heavy to get off the water.
The previous topic you mentioned never did specify a location for the plans (I've seeked and did not find), which is what I am looking for and the few individuals who stated in that thread that they had original kits with plans has never logged back in to RCU since then (2004) so here I am back where I started still looking for plans for this plane or a kit for what matters. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Chas
PS - Also checked eBay to no avail
03-11-2006, 12:21 AM
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Hey Davey.....why not suggest this to Walt after he has finished the Maules and the 38...? If he set his mind to it, he could make a pretty decent one....
03-11-2006, 03:24 PM
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The German plans website is at www.vth.de . The plan is for the LA-250 Renegade. It's plan Best Nr.: MT/K 495 and it's 1/4 scale with a wingspan of 2570 mm. I've never seen one at a float fly so it would be a tempting project
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03-11-2006, 10:00 PM
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I've directed other people to that site and your right, it's a pain. I got my catalog from Bob Holman so you may be able to order through him, but I am not sure on that.
Nony, yeah my arm could be twisted into doing one at 101". Maybe we could all go together with Walt and make it worth his while to make up a fiberglass "kit". Lets see you, me, RC Bart, Cliff, John, and Walt
. Sounds like a good topic for discussion around a camp fire with a big bottle of rum
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that's 101 " wing span ....ooooooo... I'd be in for something like that !!!
that's 101 " wing span ....ooooooo... I'd be in for something like that !!!
. Sounds like a good topic for discussion around a camp fire with a big bottle of rum
04-07-2006, 10:22 PM
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Don't know how I missed this one, but, yes, I think it would fit nicely in the pylon...you might have to make the tailfeathers out of titanium, though........
04-08-2006, 03:57 AM
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Lake Flyer, that would need to be a big bottle of rum....I might come along. Now it's a while since I've sat around a camp fire with a bottle of rum..
There'sa great rum here in Australia named after the town in which it's made, Bundaberg. It's a very nice dark rum, and after it I like Bounty from Fiji best. Either will do, then give me acall.
There'sa great rum here in Australia named after the town in which it's made, Bundaberg. It's a very nice dark rum, and after it I like Bounty from Fiji best. Either will do, then give me acall.
04-08-2006, 07:51 PM
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Hey you are more than welcome to the campfire...especially if you bring the rum!! Be prepared for the consequences though..some contributors to this thread do have a bit of a reputation
04-10-2006, 05:55 AM
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I hope the model flys better than the real one. I flew a buccaneer about 25 years ago and it was a SOB of an aircraft, difficult to get off the water and difficult to get back on with any finesse, but cool to sit in on the water, and alight on the water, drop the gear and taxy up onto the beach, or vice versa.
04-11-2006, 10:07 PM
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I bought the plans for a Lake Renegade 250 from that place in Germany back in February. One of my contractors from Germany was here in the U.S. and he helped me thru their website. It wound up costing $38 U.S. and took about two weeks for the plans to arrive. The plans are in both German and English, metric and english measurements. I have found several errors or inconsistencies in the plans, but I marked them up so that they were accurate on all the views. IF I can get the time, I am going to try to put the plans into CAD. It sure would be nice to be able to have a kit cutter cut up the wood. This will be my first ever scratch build and a monumental task for me. I know a very experienced builder would have no problems with this, but the plans don't give much explanation. But I am not scared, I will get this one built eventually!
The wing span is 101", length is 75". Estimated weight is 9KG (about 20 pounds). The plans have details for custom building landing gear (plug in/removeable struts, not retracts). I think I may use some Robart struts instead. I am also debating whether to do a gas engine or electric. The plans show a Kriz Bully 52 engine. I guess this is a German glow or gas engine.
Anyway, I have started scratch building from my marked up plans. So far I have the fuselage formers and the engine pod made. The engine pod and main fuse former under the pod called for 5/16 plywood. I laminated two sheets of 5/32 plywood together to make the 5/16 ply. The plans lack how and where to put servos and servo trays. I guess I am going to have to come up with that myself. Also, a fiberglass cowl will have to be made. The plans don't give as much detail on the cowl as I would like.
If anyone has questions or wants more details, feel free to contact me.
The wing span is 101", length is 75". Estimated weight is 9KG (about 20 pounds). The plans have details for custom building landing gear (plug in/removeable struts, not retracts). I think I may use some Robart struts instead. I am also debating whether to do a gas engine or electric. The plans show a Kriz Bully 52 engine. I guess this is a German glow or gas engine.
Anyway, I have started scratch building from my marked up plans. So far I have the fuselage formers and the engine pod made. The engine pod and main fuse former under the pod called for 5/16 plywood. I laminated two sheets of 5/32 plywood together to make the 5/16 ply. The plans lack how and where to put servos and servo trays. I guess I am going to have to come up with that myself. Also, a fiberglass cowl will have to be made. The plans don't give as much detail on the cowl as I would like.
If anyone has questions or wants more details, feel free to contact me.
04-11-2006, 10:50 PM
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Flybug,
I have a mediocre camera for taking pics, but I might be able to get a friend of mine who has one of those very expensive and fancy digital cameras to take some pictures for me as I progress thru the build. Just understand that I don't get much time to work on it right now (two kids 6 & 3, and oh, yeah, a wife who gives me other "more important" projects to do). So progress may be slow. But I am looking forward to getting it done. I really like the looks of this plane.
And in regards to your first post about the Buccaneer. Last fall, I too, was looking for something on the Buccaneer (because I could not find anything on the Renegade at first). I got the plans for a Buc from AMA plans. Unfortunately, the plans are really the layout of the plane from the old Pilot Models kit that goes along with the instructions. There are no details for building the fuse formers and some other parts. About a month later, I find out a friend of mine who used to fly 15 years ago has the Pilot kit in his basement (collecting dust) with the plane about 70 percent built. The AMA plans were basically the first sheet of two from the kit. The second sheet had some pictures of how to build the plane, but still did not have any detailed sections for the individual formers or other pieces. I am sure a very experienced scratch builder could probably build from these plans.
I have a mediocre camera for taking pics, but I might be able to get a friend of mine who has one of those very expensive and fancy digital cameras to take some pictures for me as I progress thru the build. Just understand that I don't get much time to work on it right now (two kids 6 & 3, and oh, yeah, a wife who gives me other "more important" projects to do). So progress may be slow. But I am looking forward to getting it done. I really like the looks of this plane.
And in regards to your first post about the Buccaneer. Last fall, I too, was looking for something on the Buccaneer (because I could not find anything on the Renegade at first). I got the plans for a Buc from AMA plans. Unfortunately, the plans are really the layout of the plane from the old Pilot Models kit that goes along with the instructions. There are no details for building the fuse formers and some other parts. About a month later, I find out a friend of mine who used to fly 15 years ago has the Pilot kit in his basement (collecting dust) with the plane about 70 percent built. The AMA plans were basically the first sheet of two from the kit. The second sheet had some pictures of how to build the plane, but still did not have any detailed sections for the individual formers or other pieces. I am sure a very experienced scratch builder could probably build from these plans.