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05-22-2023, 03:57 PM
Replies: 139
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Posted By aymodeler

Nice try, but any reasonable reader of your reply...

Nice try, but any reasonable reader of your reply to my statement about giving Flite Test a pass would take it as at least tacit agreement. Now if these threads were legally binding legal documents,...
05-22-2023, 05:06 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I never said YOU used the word "pass", but if you...

I never said YOU used the word "pass", but if you go back through the thread, you will see that I did and your reply was a tacit agreement with my statement. Here is the original sequence.

My...
05-21-2023, 02:47 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I think the point that Speed was originally...

I think the point that Speed was originally trying to make here is that if we are going to call out the AMA for lack of accountability with regards to safety, then we really need to call out FT too....
05-13-2023, 10:58 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I agree that many of the points you raise are...

I agree that many of the points you raise are valid concerns, I have said as much in the past. However, I also still do think that there is value in flying at a club field, and by extension, being an...
05-13-2023, 07:57 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

That's close, but I think of it more like a tax...

That's close, but I think of it more like a tax than an extortion fee (although some would say there is no difference there!).

As I have stated before, I do find at least some value in my AMA...
05-12-2023, 03:37 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

Dues vary from local club to local club. Clubs...

Dues vary from local club to local club. Clubs typically have a very open and transparent budgeting process and members know exactly how their dues relate to the amenities they enjoy. Clubs can spend...
05-12-2023, 01:44 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

Well that's a relief ... I wouldn't get a wink of...

Well that's a relief ... I wouldn't get a wink of sleep tonight if I thought there was any bad blood between me and someone I was "chatting" with on-line :D:D:D
05-12-2023, 01:41 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

You're missing my point. I understand all of...

You're missing my point. I understand all of that, but membership in the local club requires membership in the AMA. Is it all just a racket of some sort? Sure, but in order to gain access to the...
05-12-2023, 12:47 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I am looking at this from the reverse of how you...

I am looking at this from the reverse of how you are looking at it. My primary interest is access to a nice place to fly to near my home. Since all the nice places to fly near my home are AMA clubs,...
05-12-2023, 12:34 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

OK, that's fair. What I was trying to say...

OK, that's fair. What I was trying to say (apparently poorly) is that those who oppose the AMA often do so because they are opposed to the AMA and AMA club dues (not dues and fees in general). You...
05-12-2023, 12:18 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

Hmmm ... If your teenage son/daughter was...

Hmmm ... If your teenage son/daughter was behaving in an unsafe manner, would you simply ignore it? Of course, I know you would not.
05-12-2023, 12:12 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

What exactly are you disagreeing with in my...

What exactly are you disagreeing with in my statement?

I said I respect the point of view of those who don't find value in AMA membership. I also said that I do find value in AMA membership...
05-12-2023, 10:47 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I think I already agreed with everything you...

I think I already agreed with everything you said. I am still just curious as to why you feel it necessary to frequently point out the AMA's deficiencies while giving FT a pass.
05-12-2023, 10:45 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

In the end, it always seems to come down to this....

In the end, it always seems to come down to this. Those who oppose the AMA are ultimately opposed to the dues (both AMA and club). I have no problem with that and respect that view. I just wish those...
05-12-2023, 10:40 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I think Franklin said it above when he pointed...

I think Franklin said it above when he pointed out that they are two different organization catering to two different audiences. Ultimately, the typical FT member would be frustrated bored to tears...
05-12-2023, 08:53 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

One other general thought about safety. Overall,...

One other general thought about safety. Overall, despite all the risks we discuss here, model aviation is still an incredibly safe activity compared to many other hobbies and leisure activities out...
05-12-2023, 08:22 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

These are all actions/failures by members. And I...

These are all actions/failures by members. And I know that you will say that silence by the AMA leadership effectively constitutes complicity, and I won't argue that. But I do maintain that is still...
05-12-2023, 04:34 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

The folks over at FT are notorious for building...

The folks over at FT are notorious for building bigger and faster and more exotic. The things they demonstrate in there videos are far more aggressive in all of those fronts than what I typically see...
05-12-2023, 04:22 AM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I think there is one big difference though. FT as...

I think there is one big difference though. FT as an organization itself (including their leadership) are actively out in front of the public demonstrating a disregard for safety (in spirit if not in...
05-11-2023, 01:42 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

Of course, if we are to talk about the pros of...

Of course, if we are to talk about the pros of Flite Test, we also really need to talk about the cons too. One big con is that they do not really take safety seriously, and worse, they are setting a...
05-11-2023, 12:12 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 22,752
Posted By aymodeler

I think you answered your own question when you...

I think you answered your own question when you said they bring youth engagement. This should not be trivialized as this is the future of the hobby and this is something that the AMA is really,...
05-09-2023, 11:55 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 22,318
Posted By aymodeler

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone but it...

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone but it seems like there is a lot of hijacking, emotional and otherwise, going on in just about every thread in this forum by just about everyone here ...


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05-08-2023, 09:26 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 22,318
Posted By aymodeler

Bickering aside and back to the original topic...

Bickering aside and back to the original topic ... I am not sure what the AMA (or any outside organization) can really do about RID prices. In the end, it will all come down to volume and market size...
05-08-2023, 08:52 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 22,318
Posted By aymodeler

I would bet that there has been a huge drop-off,...

I would bet that there has been a huge drop-off, but again, mostly "drone" flyers. I personally know of people who got caught up with the fad, bought a cheap drone, lost it in a fly-away, and gave up...
05-04-2023, 01:30 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 22,318
Posted By aymodeler

The problem with the FAA registration data is...

The problem with the FAA registration data is that it is very, very heavily skewed by drone flyers who I do not consider to be relevant to this discussion. The vast majority of drone flyers will be...
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