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    Jan, Sorry you are having issues, but I see a...

    Jan,

    Sorry you are having issues, but I see a couple of clues here. I had a friend with a similar situation, and were were able trace it back to how he had set up his radio. He did not fully...
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    This guy looks like he was a victim of the...

    This guy looks like he was a victim of the downwind turn!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxbulrrQVig
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    Stay ignorant my friend.........

    Stay ignorant my friend.........
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    Please, please! Go back and read. You are making...

    Please, please! Go back and read. You are making yourself look foolish here. Start with the first post.
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    The plane or blimp doesn't go any faster. They...

    The plane or blimp doesn't go any faster. They still fly at the same indicated speed, but the ground speed increases with the wind. Have you read any of the rest of this thread?
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    Didn't Ralph Braun campaign one too?

    Didn't Ralph Braun campaign one too?
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    He doesn't say so, the ENTIRE aerospace world...

    He doesn't say so, the ENTIRE aerospace world says so. Do you really think you are smarter than every text book on the planet? Every aero engineer? If you you would just consider the possibility that...
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    Finally? It's been stated over and over from the...

    Finally? It's been stated over and over from the beginning.....
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    What gives? This one is easy! You stalled the...

    What gives? This one is easy! You stalled the plane.

    You tried to make the down wind speed look the same to you as the upwind speed (5-7mph wide open lol). There is no mysterious gotcha that...
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    Ding ding ding......

    Ding ding ding......
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    Lol! What point are you trying to argue again and...

    Lol! What point are you trying to argue again and why is it relevant?
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    I've been here from the very beginning and have...

    I've been here from the very beginning and have kept up just fine, but believe what you want.
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    The plane ONLY cares about wind in reference to...

    The plane ONLY cares about wind in reference to the ground i.e take off and landing (x-wind component-you have to line up with the runway) & navigating (you have to arrive at the airport at some...
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    Exactly......

    Exactly......
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    Jeez do people even read? Once again its to...

    Jeez do people even read?

    Once again its to shorten the take off and landing roll. Nothing else. Again.....ground reference maneuver. Seriously people...Google just a little......
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    That's for takeoff and landing which is...

    That's for takeoff and landing which is (surprise!!) a ground reference maneuver. C'mon guys this is simple,......
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    Who said it was a quad? Fixed wing actually, 200...

    Who said it was a quad? Fixed wing actually, 200 lbs in this example. An yes it is absolutely in steady state wind.
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    You've got it nailed. Somebody tries to make the...

    You've got it nailed. Somebody tries to make the ground track look the same in wind as it does without. The results can be disastrous.

    The concept is taught in primary full scale flight training...
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    Jay we're all good, I'm agreeing with you too. I...

    Jay we're all good, I'm agreeing with you too. I just quoted you to show that what you suggested had already been done.
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    Thanks Jack...see you at BITW?

    Thanks Jack...see you at BITW?
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    Quoting my own post from January of last year: ...

    Quoting my own post from January of last year:

    I've already done exactly this! I fly UAV's for a living. By nature they navigate via GPS waypoints (ground reference manuvers!) and are very highly...
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    This makes zero sense. I'm still completely...

    This makes zero sense.

    I'm still completely mystified as to why folks choose to believe there is a "downwind turn" problem when it can be proven over and over again that it doesn't exist. Once...
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    Because you are measuring GROUND SPEED, not air...

    Because you are measuring GROUND SPEED, not air speed. The radar gun, (or doppler mic, or whatever) is stationary on the ground. You are measuring the aircraft speed relative to it, not to the...
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    It has EVERYTHING to do with ground speed...

    It has EVERYTHING to do with ground speed actually. The problem is your speed reference is to you. You are on the ground stationary trying to pilot a vehicle flying within a mass of moving air. The...
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    I'm bored, couldn't help it. lol

    I'm bored, couldn't help it. lol
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