Turbine Jets and slow flight
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Turbine Jets and slow flight
Ok guys, Im think Im loseing it but I need some advice.
I just took a quick lunch to the flying feild with my buddys and got a very nice flight in on my Carf Eurosport with K140. This is the new Eurosport, when I got this really big jet last year it seemed soo fast and fun to fly, but today it felt just big and very slow.. I found my self flying almost at full power the whole flight.
My flying buddie are telling me my issues is I have to many planes and never spend the time needed to completly feel one out before moveing on, (on the weekends typicly have at least 3 planes My Carf Rookie 2 with P120 and Carf Eursport, and one or 2 of my war bids - TopFlite gaint P51 or Gaint B25)
I think its becouse of the massive size of the Eursport it just feels so slow, we had it GPS at 182mph but that was out of a dive.
I only birng this question up becouse Im hopeing this monday to maden my 1/9 F15 with P120 and I was told F15 also fly very slow even with full power.
So am I the only one who feels this way?
I know its crazy but I tried flying some today at 1/2 power and while it stayed in the air, level flight thats all it could do, no manvers... no fun....
So am I missing something?
Thanks mike
I just took a quick lunch to the flying feild with my buddys and got a very nice flight in on my Carf Eurosport with K140. This is the new Eurosport, when I got this really big jet last year it seemed soo fast and fun to fly, but today it felt just big and very slow.. I found my self flying almost at full power the whole flight.
My flying buddie are telling me my issues is I have to many planes and never spend the time needed to completly feel one out before moveing on, (on the weekends typicly have at least 3 planes My Carf Rookie 2 with P120 and Carf Eursport, and one or 2 of my war bids - TopFlite gaint P51 or Gaint B25)
I think its becouse of the massive size of the Eursport it just feels so slow, we had it GPS at 182mph but that was out of a dive.
I only birng this question up becouse Im hopeing this monday to maden my 1/9 F15 with P120 and I was told F15 also fly very slow even with full power.
So am I the only one who feels this way?
I know its crazy but I tried flying some today at 1/2 power and while it stayed in the air, level flight thats all it could do, no manvers... no fun....
So am I missing something?
Thanks mike
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I dont know now I was thinking of picking up a Zoril Fiberglass fues for the Panther to put a P80 in, while being a kit built I was not exspecting fast, but i dont want boring, thats why I like the rookie so much.
What motors are you guys running in your Eursports? Is there any noticable preformace diffrince vs the $$$ spent for the larger motor?
Thanks Mike
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The larger the airframe the more dececptive the speed is. The smaller jets and scale warbirds require more speed due to wing loading and the larger ones depending on the model appears slower until you get close to it.
That is why you look up at a Airbuss 380 or Jumbo 747 and they look like they are going fall out of the sky.
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That is why you look up at a Airbuss 380 or Jumbo 747 and they look like they are going fall out of the sky.
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I had a 28lb Ram1000 in my last euro. It wasnt a screamed nor unlimited vertical monster, but it was powerful enough to the point where i had learned the airplane well enough to find its manueverability limit.
Delta's are great fun for dragging around at High Angles of attack and "groovy manuevers" (rolls, loops, etc) but them being a Delta really hinders the aerobatics you can do with them.
I ended up trading it for an original Composite Bandit and havent been happier! I loved the euro, but it just wasnt capable of everything i wanted to do.
Delta's are great fun for dragging around at High Angles of attack and "groovy manuevers" (rolls, loops, etc) but them being a Delta really hinders the aerobatics you can do with them.
I ended up trading it for an original Composite Bandit and havent been happier! I loved the euro, but it just wasnt capable of everything i wanted to do.
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With the big intakes, the Eurosport and F15 are going to be in the 150-170 MPH range. With its larger size, the Euro, as noted above, isn't going to look like its going very fast. The F15 is smaller, so it will look at bit faster, but it still isn't going to be a barn-burner.
Like Matt said, if you want something that is, and looks faster, you need a Bandit, Flash, etc. with a big block engine - but remember, we do have the 200 MPH limit and you're not going to endear yourself to a CD at an event if you go blasting through the pattern with a big-block sports jet at 200MPH+
I think you will find that a Panther also is not going to be a speed daemon. It has fairly large intakes and the wing airfoil is quite thick - which will limit the top-end speed.
Another point is that power isn't all about speed. A P80-powered F15 and a P120-powered F15 like you have will both travel about the same speed in level flight, but the P120-powered one will have *much* more punch in the verticals and be a lot more fun to fly.
Its all about what you want to do and what kind of flying you like...
Bob
Like Matt said, if you want something that is, and looks faster, you need a Bandit, Flash, etc. with a big block engine - but remember, we do have the 200 MPH limit and you're not going to endear yourself to a CD at an event if you go blasting through the pattern with a big-block sports jet at 200MPH+
I think you will find that a Panther also is not going to be a speed daemon. It has fairly large intakes and the wing airfoil is quite thick - which will limit the top-end speed.
Another point is that power isn't all about speed. A P80-powered F15 and a P120-powered F15 like you have will both travel about the same speed in level flight, but the P120-powered one will have *much* more punch in the verticals and be a lot more fun to fly.
Its all about what you want to do and what kind of flying you like...
Bob
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I did eurofighter with p 120 p 160 p 180 super eagle p 140 and never experienced more speed just a lot more vertical with the big black p 180 I think the most universal turbine for this jet it's p 160 it's just to draggy if you like speed and scale the skymaster gripen ore rafale will give you speed specially the gripen.
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Ok guys, Im think Im loseing it but I need some advice.
I just took a quick lunch to the flying feild with my buddys and got a very nice flight in on my Carf Eurosport with K140. This is the new Eurosport, when I got this really big jet last year it seemed soo fast and fun to fly, but today it felt just big and very slow.. I found my self flying almost at full power the whole flight.
My flying buddie are telling me my issues is I have to many planes and never spend the time needed to completly feel one out before moveing on, (on the weekends typicly have at least 3 planes My Carf Rookie 2 with P120 and Carf Eursport, and one or 2 of my war bids - TopFlite gaint P51 or Gaint B25...
So am I the only one who feels this way?
I just took a quick lunch to the flying feild with my buddys and got a very nice flight in on my Carf Eurosport with K140. This is the new Eurosport, when I got this really big jet last year it seemed soo fast and fun to fly, but today it felt just big and very slow.. I found my self flying almost at full power the whole flight.
My flying buddie are telling me my issues is I have to many planes and never spend the time needed to completly feel one out before moveing on, (on the weekends typicly have at least 3 planes My Carf Rookie 2 with P120 and Carf Eursport, and one or 2 of my war bids - TopFlite gaint P51 or Gaint B25...
So am I the only one who feels this way?
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I think its been said here in a few ways but if you want a really fast jet you should buy a really fast jet, trying to power up a slow jet usually lands you with a poor flying still kind of slow jet!
you won't get used to a 140 powered ultra flash in a hurry and if you do the airframe can handle a 180 with ease
also the f15 will be slow, they all are, really slow
you won't get used to a 140 powered ultra flash in a hurry and if you do the airframe can handle a 180 with ease
also the f15 will be slow, they all are, really slow