The Unofficial all things Jet drive thread
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well after running it dirct drive throw a grumpner ujoint . it was kicking butt . till the set screw lossen up on the pump shaft and i over reved it and boom went to joint only on the motor side the plastic faild . the weakset spot . had to get a fishing pole to get it back .
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ok guys for now i tuck the clutch off and im running direct drive with a grupner 5-4mm u-joint . also when i tock the impeller and shaft out i found that grass had rapped around the impeller stopping flow . also i had for some reson thought that qiuck had did a hull flex drive converson . i also think thats what i thought before but im to close to do that setup . so im going to do my first thought for a rock hard fix . its going to be a .150 flex cable and a 3/16 prop shaft just need to trun some props down to 29mm and i need a new prop nut anyone know the size of that nut ? i just need to get a 1/4 od brass tube to hold the nylon tube and a 7/16 brass bushing to hold the prop shaft like you see in the strut some size . did all the mearments and it looks like it will work great . when i get it all in ill post some pics has im building it .
ok guys for now i tuck the clutch off and im running direct drive with a grupner 5-4mm u-joint . also when i tock the impeller and shaft out i found that grass had rapped around the impeller stopping flow . also i had for some reson thought that qiuck had did a hull flex drive converson . i also think thats what i thought before but im to close to do that setup . so im going to do my first thought for a rock hard fix . its going to be a .150 flex cable and a 3/16 prop shaft just need to trun some props down to 29mm and i need a new prop nut anyone know the size of that nut ? i just need to get a 1/4 od brass tube to hold the nylon tube and a 7/16 brass bushing to hold the prop shaft like you see in the strut some size . did all the mearments and it looks like it will work great . when i get it all in ill post some pics has im building it .
Sorry I thought you knew what it was. I was going to go true flex, but that would have been significantly more work. I figured, well theres only 3" of shaft left anyways. The only tricky part was I had to make a new stuffing tube and make bushings but that really wasn't even hard once I knew what I had to do.
I see what you mean though, it does require a bit of room. However what you could do, which would be similar is to make the coupler in the the tube. So basically you take out the original stuffing tube, Cut the shaft down to an inch or so, slide the 3/16" OD tubing over the entire shaft. Then just leave about an inch of tube to insert the flex into. Than and this is hard to explain in words, put another tube over the 3/16" tube, this will be your bushing Now using a 1/4" tube cut to the length of the original stuffing tube install that in as the liner and bushing holder. This effectively would give you a true flex drive.
I'm going to try to draw this since I cannot hardly understand what I just typed.
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yeah that was what i thoght you did since i know you used the stock shaft and impeller . the only thing i need to buy it the bushings for a 3/16 strut . and a 30mm 3/16 prop to cut down.
man i put the cooling comeing out the back now . insted of going throw the oil fitting on the drive and put a pice of fuel tubeing there and filled it with 3in1 oil . but any way i have a 12" strem comeing out the back . it looks like a yamaha or kawasoki cant remember witch one has that
man i put the cooling comeing out the back now . insted of going throw the oil fitting on the drive and put a pice of fuel tubeing there and filled it with 3in1 oil . but any way i have a 12" strem comeing out the back . it looks like a yamaha or kawasoki cant remember witch one has that
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I will warn you shoving that 1/4" tube into that drive wont be easy and it needs to be very precise. Might want to make some sort of support to ensure it stays in the right position, while you're drilling.
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did you use a 1/4 in your set up . b/c i measred with a type not a mic . it was pretty close to the same size od as a 1/4 brass tube. if you havent relised i can remove my stock stuffing tube
oh btw have you thought about useing a 3 blade prop . if i did stay with a 4mm thread shaft i mite try it http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/products.php?cat=57 its the first one
the last one i forgot a 7/16 bushing for the 3/16 cupler or prop shaft witch i got in both alum and brass to see which will work better as a brushing
some more pic this is the sec drawing with the 4mm stock prop im going to also make the other one two as a backup using a 3/16 prop shaft . also insted of drilling it out i just heated the brass stuffing tube and pushed it threw the hole it cut the shap realy nicely and only removed the super glue that i used to put the intack together . oh yeah the pic of me holding to stuffing tube up is showing the 7/32 alum bushing that i drive in . which it replaceable . if it wares out .
oh btw have you thought about useing a 3 blade prop . if i did stay with a 4mm thread shaft i mite try it http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/products.php?cat=57 its the first one
the last one i forgot a 7/16 bushing for the 3/16 cupler or prop shaft witch i got in both alum and brass to see which will work better as a brushing
some more pic this is the sec drawing with the 4mm stock prop im going to also make the other one two as a backup using a 3/16 prop shaft . also insted of drilling it out i just heated the brass stuffing tube and pushed it threw the hole it cut the shap realy nicely and only removed the super glue that i used to put the intack together . oh yeah the pic of me holding to stuffing tube up is showing the 7/32 alum bushing that i drive in . which it replaceable . if it wares out .
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she's al together again . here is some more pics . to be safe im not going to run her till tomarrow to let the glue set good be for i let her rip . hey qiuck what do you use the lube your flex cable ?
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she's al together again . here is some more pics . to be safe im not going to run her till tomorrow to let the glue set good be for i let her rip . hey qiuck what do you use the lube your flex cable ?
she's al together again . here is some more pics . to be safe im not going to run her till tomorrow to let the glue set good be for i let her rip . hey qiuck what do you use the lube your flex cable ?
sorry about my absence. I use lithium grease. I lube it AFTER every run. That way it doesnt get put away wet
That's a little weird using marine grease, what do they use? like dove moisturizer....it is hot in the desert, probably get pretty dry.
but actually marine grease would be a really generic way of saying, a lithium based grease, but imo more expensive
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I am trying to decide on a good hull for a Jet drive any thoughts about the hulls from
www.btorcboat.com,
or
32" or 25" from
http://stores.ebay.com/Head-of-the-R...QQftidZ1QQtZkm
www.btorcboat.com,
or
32" or 25" from
http://stores.ebay.com/Head-of-the-R...QQftidZ1QQtZkm
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you need a thick grease that doesn't mix well with water. (i.e. it makes water not get in the boat)
I just said marine grease because it is very easy to find where i live.
(it's all over my garage!!!!)
I just said marine grease because it is very easy to find where i live.
(it's all over my garage!!!!)
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I am trying to decide on a good hull for a Jet drive any thoughts about the hulls from
www.btorcboat.com,
or
32" or 25" from
http://stores.ebay.com/Head-of-the-R...QQftidZ1QQtZkm
I am trying to decide on a good hull for a Jet drive any thoughts about the hulls from
www.btorcboat.com,
or
32" or 25" from
http://stores.ebay.com/Head-of-the-R...QQftidZ1QQtZkm
i even like the race kit for this hull thanks for the link to that ebay site .
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you need a thick grease that doesn't mix well with water. (i.e. it makes water not get in the boat)
I just said marine grease because it is very easy to find where i live.
(it's all over my garage!!!!)
you need a thick grease that doesn't mix well with water. (i.e. it makes water not get in the boat)
I just said marine grease because it is very easy to find where i live.
(it's all over my garage!!!!)
dragon-nice hull choice, looks like the one I was going to get many moons ago.
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RE: The Unofficial all things Jet drive thread
you guys would have much better luck with your drives if you used 3 or 4 blade props, instead of 2 bladed props.
Jets are actually the most efficient with an impeller design that is almost like a ducted fan prop.
Look:
http://www.performancejet.com/NEW/IMPELLER02.bmp
Jets are actually the most efficient with an impeller design that is almost like a ducted fan prop.
Look:
http://www.performancejet.com/NEW/IMPELLER02.bmp
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What are the benifits of using the flexdrive?
I have a Graupner flex coupler in my box of bits that will be becoming a jet boat in next little while.
Just got the hull and jet drive a few days ago, so starting to build the drive up at the minute.
The hull is a CEN aquajet rtr so having a bit of fun before i butcher it to much.
Have already done the water cooling outlet though.
I have a Graupner flex coupler in my box of bits that will be becoming a jet boat in next little while.
Just got the hull and jet drive a few days ago, so starting to build the drive up at the minute.
The hull is a CEN aquajet rtr so having a bit of fun before i butcher it to much.
Have already done the water cooling outlet though.
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man has far as the flex drive goes its perfict thanks qiuck . it handles the power just fine so far . sorry i still didnt get any video the fuel tank started leaking and the motor was leaning out . im going to post and look at the nitro vee thread for a good fix . i had replaced it when i first got it and last week i epoxyed the leak but it didnt hold im going to take it out and see what happed but i thank between the mathinale and caster oil it seprated the epoxy . i mite even need a larger flywheel or some weght . and im going to have to add some larger screcks to the bottom. it got a little swarly at top speed just before the tank presser dropped .
vinnystoolbox the reason im useing a flex drive is b/c i had to much drive angel and not anof room for a flex coupler . and the grupner joint u-joint wasnt strong anof . which i found the peace on the dock today the joint didnt fail it was where the plastic is glued to the metal . oh and also when i tock the old drive shaft out it was bent on the tip .
yeah j.m. i comented to qiuck about 5-6 post up about cutting down a 3 blade prop if i stayed with the 4mm shaft . well when i run to hobby lobby im going to pick up a 3 and a 4 blade . also i need to het up a frend of mine on here that makes custem impllers . here is some of his work its a drive for a sub
vinnystoolbox the reason im useing a flex drive is b/c i had to much drive angel and not anof room for a flex coupler . and the grupner joint u-joint wasnt strong anof . which i found the peace on the dock today the joint didnt fail it was where the plastic is glued to the metal . oh and also when i tock the old drive shaft out it was bent on the tip .
yeah j.m. i comented to qiuck about 5-6 post up about cutting down a 3 blade prop if i stayed with the 4mm shaft . well when i run to hobby lobby im going to pick up a 3 and a 4 blade . also i need to het up a frend of mine on here that makes custem impllers . here is some of his work its a drive for a sub
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Those would be PERFECT!
They would slip a LOT less than your current 2 blade, and they would be more efficient, too.
They would slip a LOT less than your current 2 blade, and they would be more efficient, too.
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RE: The Unofficial all things Jet drive thread
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man has far as the flex drive goes its perfect thanks quick . it handles the power just fine so far .
vinnystoolbox the reason I'm using a flex drive is b/c i had to much drive angel and not enough room for a flex coupler . and the graupner u-joint wasn't strong enough. which i found the piece on the dock today, the joint didn't fail, it was where the plastic is glued to the metal . oh and also when i took the old drive shaft out it was bent on the tip .
yeah j.m. i commented to quick about 5-6 post up about cutting down a 3 blade prop if i stayed with the 4mm shaft . well when i run to hobby lobby I'm going to pick up a 3 and a 4 blade . also i need to hit up a friend of mine on here that makes custom impellers . here is some of his work its a drive for a sub
man has far as the flex drive goes its perfect thanks quick . it handles the power just fine so far .
vinnystoolbox the reason I'm using a flex drive is b/c i had to much drive angel and not enough room for a flex coupler . and the graupner u-joint wasn't strong enough. which i found the piece on the dock today, the joint didn't fail, it was where the plastic is glued to the metal . oh and also when i took the old drive shaft out it was bent on the tip .
yeah j.m. i commented to quick about 5-6 post up about cutting down a 3 blade prop if i stayed with the 4mm shaft . well when i run to hobby lobby I'm going to pick up a 3 and a 4 blade . also i need to hit up a friend of mine on here that makes custom impellers . here is some of his work its a drive for a sub
Umi made up some 4 blade impellers once, but the results were mixed, don't think she really liked the results. I would recommend to those who have the time, to cut down a 3-blade 45 or 50mm CF graupner prop and try that. I think as I've said somewhere long ago, that the impellers used in the kmb(28mm) and graupner(29mm) drive is a cut down 45mm prop. A 50 might give a bit more bite and pitch.
dragon sorry, I corrected your post, I was bored..........you should get mozilla firefox, it has built in spell check.
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really its ok i don't mind . and yes i do need to . i have been meaning to . for that and i can watch Japaneses naruto in higher quality . still a kid at hart well most will say im still a kid anyway . and also thanks for a prop size after looking close at the impeller i could tail it start out a lot larger . but anyway the 4 blade only comes in 50-60mm