SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
04-04-2009, 06:35 PM
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SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
new to rc boat hobby,can anyone give some good advice on what to look at ? I'm wanting fast out of the box, brushless, stable in water. what brand is good quality & customer support is relatively important. Under $400 preferably.
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RE: what rtr to get?
The UL-1 is new so reliability is in question but if you can do minor repairs it's been clocked at around 50 with stock running gear. Is an ideal 4S setup so if you have 4S lipos for something else you are ready to get we. It is a hydro so stability is relative.[&:]
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RE: what rtr to get?
i looked at the UL-1 nice boat but like u said little unstable at high speeds. How bout proboat fastech or supervee 27 ? IS ul-1 that much more unstable than v hulls cause i really like it? speed wise much difference between ul-1 and v-hulls? ANYONE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
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RE: what rtr to get?
Handling are relatives. Vees are always easier to handler in rough water and high wind. Hydro on the other hand prefer less wavy water.
But UL-1 has fairly large body, so handling in 4" wave should not be big issue. But Vees are easier in turns.
If you want something fast and only need medium capacity 3S Lipo to run, take a look at the Starship from MiniCatUSA.
The can glide on 3 - 4" wave at 50+mph easy.
But UL-1 has fairly large body, so handling in 4" wave should not be big issue. But Vees are easier in turns.
If you want something fast and only need medium capacity 3S Lipo to run, take a look at the Starship from MiniCatUSA.
The can glide on 3 - 4" wave at 50+mph easy.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
The sv 27 is also a true V, meaning it is not like the formula fastech which has the flattened bottom. This will give you a hull that you can upgrade later and be a fun boat at any speed. You might also consider the blackjack 26 as it a Cat hull and will be fast and stable and still handle decent waves.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
I think you will be happy with any one of these boats. these are all the top RTR's. What he means on the fasttech is that the very back of the hull has a flat ride pad. This is sometimes used to solve some other handling problems in boat design but is considered somewhat of a shortcut. I believe this is why the FT is good straight line fast but people complain about the turning. I've watched the videos and it seems to turn OK and go very fast, probably handle rough water probably better than the SV. For some reason not clear in the forum it's not the favorite, but for a 300 dollar rtr I think it's pretty solid.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
ORIGINAL: SV27dayton
I think you will be happy with any one of these boats. these are all the top RTR's. What he means on the fasttech is that the very back of the hull has a flat ride pad. This is sometimes used to solve some other handling problems in boat design but is considered somewhat of a shortcut. I believe this is why the FT is good straight line fast but people complain about the turning. I've watched the videos and it seems to turn OK and go very fast, probably handle rough water probably better than the SV. For some reason not clear in the forum it's not the favorite, but for a 300 dollar rtr I think it's pretty solid.
I think you will be happy with any one of these boats. these are all the top RTR's. What he means on the fasttech is that the very back of the hull has a flat ride pad. This is sometimes used to solve some other handling problems in boat design but is considered somewhat of a shortcut. I believe this is why the FT is good straight line fast but people complain about the turning. I've watched the videos and it seems to turn OK and go very fast, probably handle rough water probably better than the SV. For some reason not clear in the forum it's not the favorite, but for a 300 dollar rtr I think it's pretty solid.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
SV27 [sm=thumbs_up.gif] great helpful customer service
www.offshoreelectrics.com
They even have the SV27 on sale right now!
www.offshoreelectrics.com
They even have the SV27 on sale right now!
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
I have an SV27. It's my only RTR. I have the stock motor and ESC in it but most of the rest has been moded in some way. I've gone 41.3 on nimh packs, which is pretty fast for stock. I'm currently building my second boat, (have been for 2 years, on and off
). I would recommend Towwer Hobbies. I don't have alot of experience with them but it seems like they get Aquacrafts attentention if there are any problems. This forum has a general positive opinion of Tower. My SV was perfect when I got it but there has been alot of chatter about quality issues as of late. Get on Youtube and watch some vids. One peice of advice. I have the boat, which I paid about 300 for. But I also have a 180 dollar charger and 300 bucks worth of batterys. It's RTR unless you have the batteries and charger.
). I would recommend Towwer Hobbies. I don't have alot of experience with them but it seems like they get Aquacrafts attentention if there are any problems. This forum has a general positive opinion of Tower. My SV was perfect when I got it but there has been alot of chatter about quality issues as of late. Get on Youtube and watch some vids. One peice of advice. I have the boat, which I paid about 300 for. But I also have a 180 dollar charger and 300 bucks worth of batterys. It's RTR unless you have the batteries and charger.
04-28-2009, 08:13 PM
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
ORIGINAL: SV27dayton
I have an SV27. It's my only RTR. I have the stock motor and ESC in it but most of the rest has been moded in some way. I've gone 41.3 on nimh packs, which is pretty fast for stock. I'm currently building my second boat, (have been for 2 years, on and off). I would recommend Towwer Hobbies. I don't have alot of experience with them but it seems like they get Aquacrafts attentention if there are any problems. This forum has a general positive opinion of Tower. My SV was perfect when I got it but there has been alot of chatter about quality issues as of late. Get on Youtube and watch some vids. One peice of advice. I have the boat, which I paid about 300 for. But I also have a 180 dollar charger and 300 bucks worth of batterys. It's RTR unless you have the batteries and charger.
I have an SV27. It's my only RTR. I have the stock motor and ESC in it but most of the rest has been moded in some way. I've gone 41.3 on nimh packs, which is pretty fast for stock. I'm currently building my second boat, (have been for 2 years, on and off
). I would recommend Towwer Hobbies. I don't have alot of experience with them but it seems like they get Aquacrafts attentention if there are any problems. This forum has a general positive opinion of Tower. My SV was perfect when I got it but there has been alot of chatter about quality issues as of late. Get on Youtube and watch some vids. One peice of advice. I have the boat, which I paid about 300 for. But I also have a 180 dollar charger and 300 bucks worth of batterys. It's RTR unless you have the batteries and charger.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
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The sv 27 is also a true V, meaning it is not like the formula fastech which has the flattened bottom.
The sv 27 is also a true V, meaning it is not like the formula fastech which has the flattened bottom.
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
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man everyone is getting this wrong i think u mean the fastech that is a deep vee
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The sv 27 is also a true V, meaning it is not like the formula fastech which has the flattened bottom.
The sv 27 is also a true V, meaning it is not like the formula fastech which has the flattened bottom.
The fasttech has a v shaped hull , but not really considered a deep V , because it has a realitivly flat bottem , and the SV has a very defined V shape!!! I think that sum's it up!! The formula is a hydro with a very flat bottem!
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RE: ADVICE ON WHAT TO BUY?
sorry guys didn't mean to get you all v'd up. do you guys have a favorite in these 2 RTR's ? i'm just trying to get as many views on these boats as i can. I don't have a clue on what props, battery brands are reliable, what size battery can i go w/out overheating motor, esc. etc. while i'm at it how about chargers that will do EVERYTHING ?????? I know there are threads on all this stuff but just trying to get all i can summed up w/out spending a week at my computer which i don't have time for. Thanks a million for your guys input i honestly appreciate it.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
gold plated? no. It's not uncommon for a good set of batts to cost 100. If you have 3 well that's 300.
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-5250-74-Pack.htm these are 120 each.
http://www.modelrec.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=6863 Here's my charger for 190.
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-5250-74-Pack.htm these are 120 each.
http://www.modelrec.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=6863 Here's my charger for 190.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
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gold plated? no. It's not uncommon for a good set of batts to cost 100. If you have 3 well that's 300.
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-5250-74-Pack.htm these are 120 each.
http://www.modelrec.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=6863 Here's my charger for 190.
gold plated? no. It's not uncommon for a good set of batts to cost 100. If you have 3 well that's 300.
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-5250-74-Pack.htm these are 120 each.
http://www.modelrec.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=6863 Here's my charger for 190.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
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that looks like a real good charger dayton. Wow this stuff is pretty cashy i hope my wife understands, lol,,[>:]
that looks like a real good charger dayton. Wow this stuff is pretty cashy i hope my wife understands, lol,,[>:]
You can find tenergy 6 cell 4500mah battery packs for $25 a piece brand new, not sure on what chargers are going for new, but I bought mine for $30 on ebay. You can also find clean used SV27's on ebay from $150-200 used and new/used.
As far as the SV goes, awesome boat, absolutely love it, haven't driven a fastech, don't really have to other than pure curiosity due to the fact I'm completely satisfied with my 2 SV's.
04-30-2009, 06:37 AM
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
thanks disko, sure is a big difference in price on this stuff i'm sure quality has a lot to do with it. some people have bigger wallets than others so that's how we determine what we can and can't buy
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I'm not buying those Max amp batteries. But I thought it was important to let you know that the boat is only part of the cost. I'm considering getting some lipos from Hobby city and running them in parallel so that they can handle the current draw of my 8XL cat. If you buy a charger make sure it can charge lipos. They are the future of FE.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
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I'm not buying those Max amp batteries. But I thought it was important to let you know that the boat is only part of the cost. I'm considering getting some lipos from Hobby city and running them in parallel so that they can handle the current draw of my 8XL cat. If you buy a charger make sure it can charge lipos. They are the future of FE.
I'm not buying those Max amp batteries. But I thought it was important to let you know that the boat is only part of the cost. I'm considering getting some lipos from Hobby city and running them in parallel so that they can handle the current draw of my 8XL cat. If you buy a charger make sure it can charge lipos. They are the future of FE.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
Parallel means that the positive terminal from both batteries (in this case each 4S) are tied together and connected to the ESC, and the same with the negative terminals. if you were to wire these in series it mean you'd connect the positive of one to the negative of the other and the other leads to the ESC. This would give you 8S1P in this case. Lots of voltage but not as much capacity. The first setup would be 1/2 of that voltage 4S2P.
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
My competitive neighbor bought the Fastech, he has been trying to buy a boat that could keep up with my Nitro SV 27. I had my father in law smoke with with the electric version, so I promply sold the Nitro and bought the electric. Soon (Two poor quality boats sent back to Tower later...) I'll have a straight, stock match up with him and let you know how it goes. And if it goes badly for me I'll proably have a SV27 you can have cheep!
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Parallel means that the positive terminal from both batteries (in this case each 4S) are tied together and connected to the ESC, and the same with the negative terminals. if you were to wire these in series it mean you'd connect the positive of one to the negative of the other and the other leads to the ESC. This would give you 8S1P in this case. Lots of voltage but not as much capacity. The first setup would be 1/2 of that voltage 4S2P.
Parallel means that the positive terminal from both batteries (in this case each 4S) are tied together and connected to the ESC, and the same with the negative terminals. if you were to wire these in series it mean you'd connect the positive of one to the negative of the other and the other leads to the ESC. This would give you 8S1P in this case. Lots of voltage but not as much capacity. The first setup would be 1/2 of that voltage 4S2P.
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My competitive neighbor bought the Fastech, he has been trying to buy a boat that could keep up with my Nitro SV 27. I had my father in law smoke with with the electric version, so I promply sold the Nitro and bought the electric. Soon (Two poor quality boats sent back to Tower later...) I'll have a straight, stock match up with him and let you know how it goes. And if it goes badly for me I'll proably have a SV27 you can have cheep!
My competitive neighbor bought the Fastech, he has been trying to buy a boat that could keep up with my Nitro SV 27. I had my father in law smoke with with the electric version, so I promply sold the Nitro and bought the electric. Soon (Two poor quality boats sent back to Tower later...) I'll have a straight, stock match up with him and let you know how it goes. And if it goes badly for me I'll proably have a SV27 you can have cheep!
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My competitive neighbor bought the Fastech, he has been trying to buy a boat that could keep up with my Nitro SV 27. I had my father in law smoke with with the electric version, so I promply sold the Nitro and bought the electric. Soon (Two poor quality boats sent back to Tower later...) I'll have a straight, stock match up with him and let you know how it goes. And if it goes badly for me I'll proably have a SV27 you can have cheep!
My competitive neighbor bought the Fastech, he has been trying to buy a boat that could keep up with my Nitro SV 27. I had my father in law smoke with with the electric version, so I promply sold the Nitro and bought the electric. Soon (Two poor quality boats sent back to Tower later...) I'll have a straight, stock match up with him and let you know how it goes. And if it goes badly for me I'll proably have a SV27 you can have cheep!
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RE: SV 27 VS. FASTECH HELP
4S is all id recommend in the sv as far as voltage. But you can run as many in parallel as you like. It's just more capacity. People dont' usually do it because it adds weight and is expensive but it also in cases where you run 2, 4S cells in parallel it may be a realistic combo.