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    RE: apache owners

    [quote]ORIGINAL: Justaddwata

    I was thinking of these - believe they were made by Thorsten. Basically a copy of an S6 with no mechanicals. Little more scale than what Werner is offering at the moment though they are 100% custom.










    just curious, whats the deal with the 5 blade props? i have always run 2 and 3's but lately ive been seeing alot of 4 and 5's. what gives?
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    ORIGINAL: cat samich
    just curious, whats the deal with the 5 blade props? i have always run 2 and 3's but lately ive been seeing alot of 4 and 5's. what gives?
    5 blades look sexier

    To generalize - they bite the water more (more blade in the water) though lose a little top end speed (more friction as more blades to go through the water).

    A better choice for bigger boats with power to spare.

    They are also considerably more expensive, lots more work to finish, and lots lots more work to balance.

    But they look sexier
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    Those cleavers require a lot more torque and HP to make them push the boat, not necessarily high rpm so what kind of power plant(s) are we looking at Matt?
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    ORIGINAL: lolamon

    Those cleavers require a lot more torque and HP to make them push the boat, not necessarily high rpm so what kind of power plant(s) are we looking at Matt?
    The drives in the pic had a big pocket bike twin powering them. I am not sure of the overdrive ratio or what props he ultimately ran. Nice build though.
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    Very nice build indeed! He did an exceptional job. Would love to see it in person, even watch it run would be a treat.
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    RE: apache owners

    Just go all out and stuff the expense?
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    RE: apache owners

    Nice boat Tony im hoping to have one of those blatas im build lol. Just wondering i notice that pip doesnt have a header what holds it to the motor?
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    I think you are refering to the other pics I sent you, I don't have a header for it , that is how I got it but you can buy the headers or the bends to make you own from MHZ. If you have a problem getting the parts from them then I can get them for you.
    The pics above are a Kawasaski kx65 not a blata engine, this has at least 6 more horse power than a blata. Just waiting on Andy Brown to make me the stainless steel props that I have been promised and I will get it back on the water.
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    Man 6 more HP that puts it in the 20HP range then right i dont even wanna know how much that kx65 costs lol.
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    RE: apache owners

    [quote]ORIGINAL: Justaddwata

    I was thinking of these - believe they were made by Thorsten. Basically a copy of an S6 with no mechanicals. Little more scale than what Werner is offering at the moment though they are 100% custom.







    Are these drives steerable or do you still have to use a rudder?
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    RE: apache owners

    they are sterable the flex shaft will alow 10* to about 15* of lock more than enough to steer the hull at high speed

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    RE: apache owners

    Those drives are not avaible though right i saw up top that they were custom? I like the the who idea of no mechanicals less to worry about lol.
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    ohhh to have a cnc machine

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    Heres my new 57" Apache from my new moulds ,layup is one layer tisue mat one layer 350 csm mat one layer 450 tri cloth then carbon in the rear 3rd ,weight with rails and transom wood is 10lb without the hatch which i havent made yet .
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    Nice work, Mart ... cant wait to see her when she's on the water.
    What are you gonna have pushing her along??
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    verry nice work Mart wish i had the nerv to build a hull from scratch

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    ORIGINAL: Watsy

    Nice work, Mart ... cant wait to see her when she's on the water.
    What are you gonna have pushing her along??
    I hope to have this one on the water in 6 weeks time,we have a familly holliday in 4 weeks so i dont think ill get it done before then but ill do my best.She came out pretty flawless,its stiff and strong without been too heavy.This ones getting a full modded zenoah for now but ill be doing one with twins later.
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    Yep, that should do the trick (full modded Zen) . Well we're looking forward to seeing the end product.
    good luck with the build mate....
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    Mart,

    Very nice. Another great boat out of your shop.

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    RE: apache owners

    How about starting this thread up again? I love all the apaches i just got a 57" apache from nieto on a trade and will post some pics up of it soon.
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    RE: apache owners

    Heres my own,
    the white ones a navaho ,same hull different deck ,the black ones an appache ive just finnished from my own moulds.
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    RE: apache owners

    Glad to see you named your boats apropriately Mart. I was a little worried.
    Must say they're quite nice.
    Really like to see wannagofasts' 65in ballantine take shape.
    Like to get mine done too.

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    ORIGINAL: apache 1
    Glad to see you named your boats apropriately Mart. I was a little worried.
    Must say they're quite nice.
    Really like to see wannagofasts' 65in ballantine take shape.
    Like to get mine done too.
    He might have gotten a suggestion with that one
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    RE: apache owners

    apache 1 I actually traded the ballantine to nieto for a 57" apache I loved the hull but just dont have the funds to build such a big boat correctly. Nieto was able to help me out and get me alot of stuff so i could get the 57" on the water alot sooner than I would ever be able to get the ballantine. Should have some pics and maybe some video soon of it.

    And Leo there might be another 57 apache over at amelia soon hope to see you there soon with it
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    Just let me know when and I throw one of mine in the truck.

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