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    RE: apache owners

    Not if he goes with twin zenoahs staggered ,one to each drive .
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    RE: apache owners

    I like the staggered theme. It is also kind of scale in a way. I may just have to go that route. I see my bill going up, up, up. this may be an interesting project for me.


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    Twins will fit if you stagger them,its been done a few times .

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    RE: apache owners

    Im sure a few guys on here have done it,also do a search on Jims you might find something on there.
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    RE: apache owners

    the reason i mentioned inline twin is he had said he needed a gearbox to work with the drives and as far as going stagered i would go with RCMK s as you can get them in eather left or right hand rotation im not shure whart is involved in making the Arrow shark drive counter rotated might be able to just order them that way if you can get the drive already counter rotated that will open your build to any engine with out having to buy alot of extra parts take the counter rotated Zenoah from Bonzi think it list at $ 600.00 as compaired to a counter rotated RCMK at about $ 250..00

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    RE: apache owners

    Yes, I thought of this today.  The Arrow Shark MC611 drive can spin either way.  So I do need one of each motor, been looking at motors today and prices.

    Sorry Martno, Stig did not make the drivers cut this round.  scared Warehouse Hobbies guys will navigate my rig.

    Today the Apache went into paint.  He said he could not get to it until the end of next week.  It is going to be pretty neat.  When I get the hull back I will start my own build thread so I don't trash this one.

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    RE: apache owners

    I emailed Tony at Warehouse hobbies and asked if he can do a counter rotate engine. His prices seemed ok. I was looking at RCMK but did not find a price list? Did I miss it or is there a vendor here in the states?



    ORIGINAL: rcguy1411

    the reason i mentioned inline twin is he had said he needed a gearbox to work with the drives and as far as going stagered i would go with RCMK s as you can get them in eather left or right hand rotation im not shure whart is involved in making the Arrow shark drive counter rotated might be able to just order them that way if you can get the drive already counter rotated that will open your build to any engine with out having to buy alot of extra parts take the counter rotated Zenoah from Bonzi think it list at $ 600.00 as compaired to a counter rotated RCMK at about $ 250..00

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    Waveridermouldings,Manufacturer of quality race proven Hulls.

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    RE: apache owners

    Thanks. Looks like perfect engines!! Drives have been ordered. Dang that hurt. Now to get someone to build me exhuast with dual outlets, just like the real thing.


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    Here you go m8.
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    RE: apache owners

    A over 50"Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

    Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

    Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.
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    RE: apache owners

    hey guys, im changing out my apache modded zen engine for a quickdraw 35.
    does anyone know if quickdraw has the same engine mounts as the zen. they looked similar but maybe one of you guys know for sure.
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    Your going to think Iam crazy, but with this setup or twin setups either way I want quad exhaust. Dual tips for each pipe. Iwill probably have to have someone build this for me. Know anyone that handy? Thought about asking Tony at Ware House Hobbies, he said he would build a quad exhaust but I think this is to attach to a single pipe, I need to divide it up. I like your setup. Nice motor.




    ORIGINAL: HendricX

    A over 50"Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

    Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

    Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.

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    ORIGINAL: HendricX

    A over 50''Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

    Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

    Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.
    WOW!
    lots of power in a 50"
    perfect
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    RE: apache owners

    Hi all, I just finished my Apache build (well, actually itΒ΄s a Navaho, from Mart) hope you dont mind me showing my boat!

    Twin motors and struts, single rudder.



    Why would you mind? ... -well It is electric powered, only smoke it produces is proof of poof and I hope it never appears. (again )




    Just returned from the maiden, here is a video

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LShaOtIXJw[/youtube]



    Had minor problems and too small props so it will be faster one day.



    Build thread is viewable at OSE if interested to see what this has inside.






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    RE: apache owners

    Just wanted to show that electric boats can produce smoke also!

    Enjoy!

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-FpuD4Su4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

    Painted the boat also and it has 55mm Propshop props
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    RE: apache owners

    Perhaps now is a good time to drop a gas motor in her!!

    Sorry to see all the smoke - hope nothing too expensive
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    ORIGINAL: Justaddwata

    Perhaps now is a good time to drop a gas motor in her!!

    Sorry to see all the smoke - hope nothing too expensive

    Not yet ready to turn her ic, but getting closer...

    It was only an esc that went poof, about 40$ worth of chinese engineering -but if that would have not been mounted on the stainless servo mount there would have been a large burned hole in her!

    The smell is still unbeliveable, now where did I put that denat.alchohol... need to get that hull clean.
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    RE: apache owners

    Stick to your guns Pate ,i think plenty more to come from your setup,pitty about the esc but it proves that it was faulty all along with the hiccups you had with it before.Boat looked to be running well,would love to see a pic of you wearing that cam on your hat though lol.
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    RE: apache owners

    Just wanted to post here also, my Navaho is finally working like planned, cheapo electric setup and over 40mph so far.

    video
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    New 910kv motors and new hk escΒ΄s. No heat issues with 57mm props, 5517/3 propshops made the electrics hot, no more then 2 minute runs possible with them, but using the 57mm plastic ones I can drive the whole battery capacity.

    So far so good!
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    RE: apache owners

    Very nice Pate,46 mph on a budget setup is pretty good she looks superb on the water too .I bet theres more to come from your setup before your done,but as is she runs perfect so well done .
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    RE: apache owners

    what are your run times ? what batteries are you running ? i have a nice lake that wont allow fuel so this might be an option my hull is 65" Apache

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    ORIGINAL: rcguy1411

    what are your run times ? what batteries are you running ? i have a nice lake that wont allow fuel so this might be an option my hull is 65'' Apache
    Your 65" is going to need some power and with power comes the amps needed to run it
    are you wanting twins or a single Castle 2028 on 10s or so?
    I know of a few CC2028 builds on 10s 10,000mah getting runs of 3-4min
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    RE: apache owners

    ouch 3-4 min run times guess i ll keep this build gas and buy a small rtr to play at the small lake thanks for the info

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    ORIGINAL: rcguy1411

    ouch 3-4 min run times guess i ll keep this build gas and buy a small rtr to play at the small lake thanks for the info
    yeah that's what's keeping me from building one of these big FE boats right now....
    I may do one on 15s and 15,000mah
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    RE: apache owners

    i had a hobby shop owner tell me he would help me out with cost on motor and esc but think it would cost way to much for batteries would need at least be able to run for 10 -15 min mabe a real long power cable

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    ORIGINAL: rcguy1411

    i had a hobby shop owner tell me he would help me out with cost on motor and esc but think it would cost way to much for batteries would need at least be able to run for 10 -15 min mabe a real long power cable
    yeah you wont see 10-15min runs on a Castle 2028 motor
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