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Old 05-04-2011, 05:03 AM
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Hey Machine Guy - what is the link to the video?
Old 05-04-2011, 04:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BepKX...yer_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvKL...yer_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3v0...yer_detailpage
here ya go . take a look,
I am now building 10 complete units as i type..(ok my machine is doing it )
I am thinking the price is going to be around 2k ea. for the complete motor,lower,midsection,elec. ignition (the stock coil will not fit under the cowl.)
thanks
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:32 PM
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Sorry I think I read wrong. You did mean 2000 USD. And here I thought F1 outboards are not growing due to cost. [:@] That is some serious money. Dont get me wrong there is some serious machining there but ???

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Wow !

This thread is really HOTTING UP NOW

Turn my back for a minute - come back - and there are more Stunning boats - Stunning Outboard legs and Stunning builds on the way !

Thanks Cobus, all in all it was a great race weekend - I have to say - I have not seen anyone been dealt as much bad luck as you and Gerald were at the NATS. Well done for staying in the race. Your hull has definitely shown its potential and I for one really look forward to having some good races against it in the future. Lets not wait until next year.
We have some of the CMBC guys wanting to come racing in our coming Winter Champs ( your off season)- you are welcome to join us.


Machine Guy - for once I am "Speechless" your President should be proud of you. LOL That is more than a Masterpiece- its bordering on a mere miracle. I assume that the initial drive is belt driven, down to gears in the lower. Have you run the unit on a boat at all. I would understand that it is only possible to fit an inline motor due to the exhaust and carb required arrangement.
Please - tell us more.

Well to all "THE SCALE ENTHUSIASTS" You now have it ! It just cant get any better than that "A REAL HEARTY WELL DONE !

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Cant wait to see what pops up next !
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:51 AM
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hello guys,

congratulations dominic for your good race results.
tell me more about the south african contest.
is it an only OTB gas class race? or a mixed class
where inboard and outboard run against another?

@ machine guy: did you test your OTB only in a barrel?
do you have a video, where it runs for a longer time on a boat?
it would be very interesting if you tell us more about the technical details.
beltdrive or bevel gear? does have the gearwheels a helical cut and they are
hardened? does the exhaust design any resonance effect to give me full performance?
you see questions over questions ;-)

best regards

ralf

Old 05-05-2011, 09:14 AM
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Thanks for the kind words YPC.. I will post more info when I have time. Like is mentioned the one in the video Is the Proto type.

Hesco .
 I don’t think you have enough lead to put in the boat to get the CG correct.. isn’t that what you said in the other forum ? So why do you post your comments,
 I haven’t seen anything you have built yet ? I have A lot of time and money invested in this thing. so it would be nice if you have a bad comment keep it to yourself.
I don’t claim to be the fastest one on the water just a good looking one.
sorry just can’t stand getting bashed !!




 



Old 05-05-2011, 09:22 AM
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Biafra,

We had 10 I/B F1's and 7 O/B F1's entered in our NATS. They ran in seperate heats as the O/B F1's is very much a purist class and deserve their own limelight. What a sight to see 7 F1's coming around bouy 5, queing for the start-line & then gassing it as the "RACE-ON" call comes! How they all make it around bouy 1 is probably 50% skill & 50% sheer bravery!

The I/B F1's was really an experiment that paid off big-time! 10 new boats entered in less than a year! These F1's are sometimes seen as just another CAT because they share the same hardware (sorry, except Dominic with his fancy steering prop strut), but you cant argue with the numbers.... Many boaters (including myself) want the looks and on-the-edge handling with-out the extra cost and complexity of the proper outboard motor. This I/B F1 class is definately here to stay...

we currently have 2 hulls running I/B set-ups, with a 3rd boat under development. 
If i can convince a real outboard die-hard... Maybe a 4th... hint-hint wink-wink Cobus.



 
Old 05-05-2011, 09:54 AM
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Machine guy

One word - SPECTACULAR !!!!!
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Thanks jim. And allyou guys for the positive feed back.
Old 05-05-2011, 07:22 PM
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Dominic(YPC)
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What is the cost of the drive you make?
You can pM me the info...
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Machineguy

Not bashing in anyway. Your machining skills is fantastic and the scale look is brilliant. I'm a practical person and a racer (not scale builder). So the goods I have made are for racing. Most guys don't buy an outboard leg like the lawless because it costs +/-$450 and has issues with cable breakage. Dom has solved most of the problems and many guys in RSA run the leg succesfully and don't break as many cables as they used too and is affordable. The leg we make costs +/-$300 and work great although it in no way looks scale but as a racing piece of equipment it works and finishes races. The leg that Dom makes also works great and guys are talking good about it also not scale but finishes races. The hull we developed is running great and is very competitive being able to steer around 90 degree corners at near flat speeds.

Having setup and help setup a few F1 boats weight of the transom is always an issue. A lawless leg weights about 1.3kg, the new arrowshark leg is 1.1kg not sure of Dom's leg weight but I suspect it is in the 1kg range. Our leg is 780grams. In our 47" Dominator hul with the radio box nearly in the front we still had to ad about 350g of lead to get the cg right. I believe Dom and most of the guys with the Lawless has to sometimes ad up to a liter(1kg) of balast in the nose to get the boat to settle down in racing conditions.

Now looking at your leg and make now mistake I have my own engineering shop and your leg is a masterpiece of engineering as a scale looking leg, it is going to take a big boat or lots of lead to balans that boat. BTW I have a nice 54" F1 hull that your leg would look great on and she's a big girl (hence her name BIG BERTHA) so she'll handle the transom weight.

Cobus
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:36 AM
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Hi Guys !

Machine guy - as we all have expressed and frankly is undeniable " What you have managed to accomplish is "absolutely awesome" I dont think that any intentional bashing was intended by some of the remarks posted above. I can see the practical concerns that have been raised, but, as you say , YOU have invested the time and the money into this amazing project. I have no doubt that it will be well rewarded in due time.
I certainly am inspired to consider building a specific hull for that beautiful unit - lets see how further testing goes. When you can, I would like more details as to the overall weight and various measurements, so that some initial planning/design can be initiated to realize the potential of such a project.
It will certainly be in a class of its own. (I for one would want to be in that class)
Do you have a resolve to the Noise level without a tuned pipe - is the current muffler able to reduce the noise inadequately.

Initially, when the Gas F1 route started, I set out only to build the boat. As Cobus briefly shared, Cost and availability of the Imported legs became an apparent issue straining the growth, as well as the cable failures. I was therefore forced to seek to develop a outboard unit of our own to "Keep the Dream alive" afford ability was the main requirement- however- On a whole - there will always be a market for all things !
Lets continue to build this great class together !

Some basic specs on our products:
Millers legend F1 Hull weighs- 3,5kg's Including radio box - flotation and reinforcements - High gloss gel finish. Biaxial cloth vacuum molded Enigma outboard leg (complete)- 900g,s Stainless Steel
Wrap It outboard pipe and Stainless Manifold- 600 g's

Have a great weekend all
Kind regards
Dominic (YPC)
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:52 AM
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That is a doozy of a hull Cobus- nice one!!! Someone needs to get one of those mated up with one of Machineguys OBs for sure- I am sure it would be close to an open cheque job but for the outcome it would be worth it!!! Many would enjoy a beer standing around it!!
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My apologies Cobus, seems like I misundertood some of the comments.  Thanks to all for the great feedback.  I'm really excited to get the proto on a hull and running so I can provide more pics and video.  I have an Ossi hull, but I think it's too narrow at 18", doesn't seem wide enough.  Any recommendations for a wider hull glass hull?  I'm now working on a clutch and pipe to fit under the cowl....if you're going to go this far, might as well go all the way! 

P.S. I have quite the story to tell about that hull, if anyone wants more info PM me. 

To all that emailed me, I will try to keep you all posted on the progress of your outboards!

Thanks~
Wade
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OK guys heres some pics of the build as it stands. I have made up some spray rails that run about 20mm from the running surface of the sponsons. I have also gone a bit wild and added a bit extra at the front to try and help the wing effect-I have a bit of work still to do on this part. I also want to sand a bit of the edge of the sponson at the bottom to try and match the angle of the new running surface a bit better. Plodding along and enjoying the build still!!!
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:48 PM
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Heres a couple more, thanks for everyones helpful input so far. I had to remove a bit of wood as you can see near the wing, this was so I could get the rails on and I still need use the hammer as fit is tight-too tight on one I will take it off again and adjust. The gap will be filled using epoxy filler and the whole lot sanded a bit thinner.
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That is a GREAT looking boat !!! Is that a kit ? Make me one in glass...

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It is a Zipkit Illusion with a couple of modifications and maybe a couple to come. I would like to extend the wing a bit further forward(not that there is much of one!) and maybe create a little more shape to it as it is flat on top at the moment but are reluctant to add more weight.
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Hey F1 tunnel,
Looking good there . You've done well to change the look and the add on parts can only make it run better. For gas OB, from my view, there isn't enough width to the hull to make her turn well at wot. Mind telling me the length and width of the whole hull. ?
Only test run will confirm my view. Would love to see the hull completed and video of the first run. Best of luck with the project.

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Machine Guy.,

PM sent.

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44.5inches by 19inches La-Tiff, it will be interesting to see how she goes
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this is the kind of angle I would like the front of the wing section to be
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:25 AM
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Hello everyone
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@ Machine Guy, That's an absolutely beautiful piece of work!


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