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Old 04-19-2010, 11:46 AM
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a while back i saw a few pics of a boat on this site that had a dry pipe that wrapped around the front of the motor before it went to the back of the boat. looked more like a dirtbike pipe or maybe something u would see on an hpi baja 5b, any ideas?

please post pics of your curved pipe set ups, no straight pipes please


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Old 04-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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think you are on about a deep v header that goes from the engine to pipe

http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/wp222de1D.jpg

is this what you mean

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Old 04-19-2010, 04:31 PM
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go here and look at some of their headers, maybe it's one of them http://www.bhhanson.com/hbprod6.htm
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ORIGINAL: cat samich

a while back i saw a few pics of a boat on this site that had a dry pipe that wrapped around the front of the motor before it went to the back of the boat. looked more like a dirtbike pipe or maybe something u would see on an hpi baja 5b, any ideas?

please post pics of your curved pipe set ups, no straight pipes please
Sounds like something like the Mathe - I dont know of anything like it for Zenoahs - not as a boat pipe - maybe a car pipe

Old 04-19-2010, 06:58 PM
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ORIGINAL: cat samich

a while back i saw a few pics of a boat on this site that had a dry pipe that wrapped around the front of the motor before it went to the back of the boat. looked more like a dirtbike pipe or maybe something u would see on an hpi baja 5b, any ideas?

please post pics of your curved pipe set ups, no straight pipes please
Sounds like something like the Mathe - I dont know of anything like it for Zenoahs - not as a boat pipe - maybe a car pipe


thats exactly what i was looking for, i was at work when i posted and didnt have access to my pictures at home. where do i find this pipe and will it work with the rcmk? these pics are the ones i was talking about when i posted
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:33 PM
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the motor in the cat you show is a Mathe engine and a genuine Mathe pipe. Matheengines.com are the manufacturer. The motors shown with the pipe are 35cc and the Mathe pipes are large (larger than those found on a QD35). I cannot see them being usable on a RCMK.

However - Mathe do have a smaller 24cc motor. I have only seen a few pipes on them and do not know if a Deep Vee pipe is offered by them for this smaller motor - it might work (with some modification). Could not hurt to send an e-mail to them with your application.
Old 04-20-2010, 07:37 AM
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the motor in the cat you show is a Mathe engine and a genuine Mathe pipe. Matheengines.com are the manufacturer. The motors shown with the pipe are 35cc and the Mathe pipes are large (larger than those found on a QD35). I cannot see them being usable on a RCMK.

However - Mathe do have a smaller 24cc motor. I have only seen a few pipes on them and do not know if a Deep Vee pipe is offered by them for this smaller motor - it might work (with some modification). Could not hurt to send an e-mail to them with your application.


your the man! thank you so much. btw, what kind of power does that motor in the pics i put up make?
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Mathe dont put any HP claims on their motors but I would guess it would be in the 8+hp range.



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i looked at there website, looks like nice stuff. problem is i cant really find a retailer, can you buy factory direct? any idea on ball park cost of these motors? are they even worth fooling with?
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Luigi is the US distributor out in California.

Last prices I got from Luigi put the motors competitive with Quickdraw (actually the advantage was with Mathe) though this was more than 2 years ago and prices and exchange rates have likely changed this (better or worse I do not know)

Mathe Motors are very well made - be it a little heavy duty. Some of their newer motors (Red heads) look to be lighter and sleeker. I imagine they are a step up in performance. I have a few of their older motors (big flywheel versions) which have worked flawlessly (not that I have asked much of them). But Mathe engines did hold the Gas speed record back in the 90's. They are not so common in the US. Only motors I have heard of with issues have been modified against the recommendation of Mathe (might be their reason for warning against it).

I have found with Mathe that they have a certain way they like things done with "their" motors. They will recommend a prop for a configuration and they do not like it when their motors are modified.
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ORIGINAL: Justaddwata

Luigi is the US distributor out in California.

Last prices I got from Luigi put the motors competitive with Quickdraw (actually the advantage was with Mathe) though this was more than 2 years ago and prices and exchange rates have likely changed this (better or worse I do not know)

Mathe Motors are very well made - be it a little heavy duty. Some of their newer motors (Red heads) look to be lighter and sleeker. I imagine they are a step up in performance. I have a few of their older motors (big flywheel versions) which have worked flawlessly (not that I have asked much of them). But Mathe engines did hold the Gas speed record back in the 90's. They are not so common in the US. Only motors I have heard of with issues have been modified against the recommendation of Mathe (might be their reason for warning against it).

I have found with Mathe that they have a certain way they like things done with ''their'' motors. They will recommend a prop for a configuration and they do not like it when their motors are modified.

any thoughts on a qd 35 with one of those pipes?
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What are you trying to fit it in?

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Old 04-20-2010, 06:10 PM
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What are you trying to fit it in?

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im looking at a 56" or larger apache (expresscraft 70" or aeromarine 56" or an expresscraft arapaho
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You could run a regular 90 pipe in those hulls and keep it concealed.

Those hull choices would work well with a choice of power - RCMK, QD25, Qd35 and so on. You have plenty of options
Old 04-20-2010, 07:12 PM
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You could run a regular 90 pipe in those hulls and keep it concealed.

Those hull choices would work well with a choice of power - RCMK, QD25, Qd35 and so on. You have plenty of options

for arguments sake, what kind of combo would a qd 35 and the arapaho be?
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You could fit one of our Deep V Pipes in it also.

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LOVE the QD DeepVee Pipes...this is a 25 RCMK EVO with the 25 DeepVee Pipe...in a Dumas Scarab. Keep in mind they do get a ittle toastie hence the name HOTPIPE but it is part of their design. If you are running a hatch make sure you have PLENTY of ventilation. I saneded, prepped, and de-greased and then painted mine with Hearder paint & wrapped with header wrap...I want to JetHot coat it and then wrap but it was not in the "hobby budget" this year... ;(

They make GREAT power and are SUPER compact. This is a 6" QD silencer

I understand the 25CC DeepVee Pipe and the 35CC DeepVee pipe are a little different in their exhaust outlet diameter?

Cat Samich, shoot me an e-mail...
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