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Old 02-12-2008, 06:53 PM
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[X(] I started this thread for thous who are trying to restore their AMPS outboards & hulls and to try help with some tips... if anyone has some old catalogs post them up...and diagrams of the lower ends...maby some knows a shop that can repo some parts ..lets help each other out with these great looking scale out drives and hulls..I know some of us would like to run them instead of them becoming museum pieces like the
K&b sea fury so post up all pics you can ..ken KEEP AMPS GOING hehehehe[X(]
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Very rare T4 with a Fox .40 as a power head. Doubt this motor has ever been fired up.





Rare AMPS tunnel with another rare motor with a Fox 60 Hawk as powerhead.










IH Seebold Racing tunnel with a K&B 7.5 for powerhead.




Out of all of these, hope to get the Seebold tunnel running at some point. The others are collector items and will kept as such.


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some more stuff...[X(][8D]
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Very rare T4 with a Fox .40 as a power head. Doubt this motor has ever been fired up.





Rare AMPS tunnel with another rare motor with a Fox 60 Hawk as powerhead.










IH Seebold Racing tunnel with a K&B 7.5 for powerhead.




Out of all of these, hope to get the Seebold tunnel running at some point. The others are collector items and will kept as such.


Nice thread!
thanks ..on your Seebold Racing tunnel was this standerd for the power trim??? made by amps ?like mine??1/4 with a os 65[:-]
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Only difference to what to the tilt is that the level is vertical instead of horizontal. But yea, thats is the unit on the AMPS tunnel also. You can see the unit in the pic with the driver / cowl laying on the boat.
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here is the amps powered baja . ups just delivered it . boy what a whopper and a verry heavy boat . the engine has internal probs and so does the drive foot. body is in pretty good shape for its age.
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i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne
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i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne
look on eBay for a os 46 duct fan engen all you have to do is take the water cool head off of your's and put it on the new one..how is the pto on it? hope good because amps is the only on who made it[&o]
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Hey Guys,

That is super cool!!..... I didn't know they made anything like that.
Do they still make them?
How do they perform??
Do you have any video of yours running???

Thanks,
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Ducted fan engines have the carb on the rear of the case and are timed by a disc or drum just like all performance marine engines so I don't know how you would use one for an amps setup......
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The ducted fan engines are differant but I think he might find the piston , sleeve and rod he is looking for inside of one. I think the o.s powerheads were just regular rear exhaust marine engine cases with airplane engine front bearing housings and a special airplane type crankshaft with a longer crank pin to drive the pto.
Now, if anyone that reads this knows more exactly what parts fit these OS made amps powerhead please correct me and post the information . I am only guessing on this based on the few engines of mine I have had apart over the years. I am really not sure. I am only trying to help by suggesting where I would look if I were trying to find parts myself.
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If I was going to try to run one of these amps outboards today I would use one with a K&B powerhead because they just have standard K&B outboard powerheads with a AMPS hex drive PTO.
The last one of mine I was running was a Bud Light Seebold tunnel that had a .67 K&B powerhead.

Sure, the o.s. powerheads run smoother but when you break parts you have these problem of trying to figure out what the heck parts are in there and then finding them .

If you run an amps be sure you don't break a gear in the lower unit, you will really have problems finding that.

These are great old ouboard motors with a scale look that just can't be beat in appearance but they are a little bit heavy. Really , today, they are best just to keep on the shelf and look at.

These motors will break gears quite easily if you strike something with the prop and there are no spares to be had, it is not real easy to replace them either. The only way it would be practical to run these again is if someone started making replacement gears .
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If I was going to try to run one of these amps outboards today I would use one with a K&B powerhead because they just have standard K&B outboard powerheads with a AMPS hex drive PTO.
The last one of mine I was running was a Bud Light Seebold tunnel that had a .67 K&B powerhead.

Sure, the o.s. powerheads run smoother but when you break parts you have these problem of trying to figure out what the heck parts are in there and then finding them .

If you run an amps be sure you don't break a gear in the lower unit, you will really have problems finding that.

These are great old ouboard motors with a scale look that just can't be beat in appearance but they are a little bit heavy. Really , today, they are best just to keep on the shelf and look at.

These motors will break gears quite easily if you strike something with the prop and there are no spares to be had, it is not real easy to replace them either. The only way it would be practical to run these again is if someone started making replacement gears .
true on the gear's ..I gave a set from my 67cc & 3,5cc to a gear shop that fabricates small parts like that .hope to hear from them next week and let me know how much .I also will get the cast mold from them to make more...next is the cowling's I want to fabricate some mold's ..because lots of us have a hard time with them going bad cracking ext ext...and you right i forgot on the OS the crank is different but the piston & sleeve will work.. also have you ever see one with an electric start ..I found this one ..[X(]
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here is the amps powered baja . ups just delivered it . boy what a whopper and a verry heavy boat . the engine has internal probs and so does the drive foot. body is in pretty good shape for its age.
some more cool pics i found[&:] I like the gas AMPS outboard & the inboard baja hull[>:]
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Hey Guys,

That is super cool!!..... I didn't know they made anything like that.
Do they still make them?
How do they perform??
Do you have any video of yours running???

Thanks,
Phil
sadly no .most people just collect them .I wish they where still in business
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i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne
how is your resort going? wow this one sold on ebay for over $1000. bucks..ouch...0s 65 with racing lower end....did you try to get the other one i sent you the link...
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we need to start making molds of these two parts...
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is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne
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is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne
that one no ..this one is...
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Some awesome pictures!


those engines are looking pretty old yet in excellent looking shape.


Diggin the pics!
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Some awesome pictures!


those engines are looking pretty old yet in excellent looking shape.


Diggin the pics!
thanks ...we will try I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
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is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne
this is what your looking for [&:]Blackhawk Hobbies...dont know if there are still makin this...[] but i think the AMPS one looks better
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well more pics for you all .....International Hobbie Formula 402 & Twin Outdrives........[X(]$2,100.00 ...OUCH..[X(] thats a lot...cool hull though[8D]
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Here is a link to the zenoah outboard bottom end.
http://ovalexpressracing.com/hardware.html
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