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    Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    Did a tail-dragger conversion on my BH Angel mid wing sport plane, got tired of the
    bad ground handling problem of the trike gear. Total time involved from tear down,
    engine removal, removing shelf paper type covering, cutting wood bottom out and
    going back up with tri-stock reinforced 1/4" ply, re-covering bottom with monokote,
    re-assembling all removed components 4 1/2 hours max. Will check CG and fly this
    weekend.

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    Bill, have never looked at one of these before but just looking at it, I have to wonder why it was ever a trike in the first place. She looks GOOD!!!!!!!!!

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    Hi Bill,

    Nice job... I have a question. Once you had the covering off, what was the construction like? What's your opinion overall of Black Horse models. I've never had one myself.

    What size engine is on that plane???

    Thanks,

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    This is first Black Horse airplane and this one is tail heavy, most of the wood I came into contact with once
    I removed the covering from the bottom I noticed very little glue, most of it was a clear hard type, not a
    CA. I did hit most all of the joints I could reach with an extension tip on the CA bottle with medium CA just
    as a precautionary peace of mind measure. The wood both the ply (2 mm) luan looking type, smooth on both
    sides and the balsa was very hard, probably why she is a bit on the tail heavy side. The engine I have on this
    plane is an Avistar 46, one of two I purchased from Sig last year, the other engine is doing duty in my LT-40 tail
    dragger, quite a nice engine for the price, surprisingly.

    I have attached a file pic of the Angels sister that was released at the same time as she was to give you and idea
    of how the gear looked before I converted her.

    Overall I am very happy with this one, just might order the Blade, although this is a mid-wing and the blade is a low wing.

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    First flights after the transformation to a taildragger went off without a hitch, had a very
    enjoyable day, winds were calm to light, I was the only one out of 3 at the feild that brought
    anything to fly. Very pleased with the out come of conversion, might get some pics on the
    next trip to the field.
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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    I Have A BH sprinter like the one pictured above I found it to be a fairly high quality plane that flies good I used a ST 45 and changed the motor mount to a great planes adj. mount mine is covered with ultracote (their claim) I used a 2000 mil. nimh. and did not have to add any weight. I got the red cowl with the blue spinner too some pics of mine are in a saratoga 40 thread Greg

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion


    ORIGINAL: gmeyer-RCU

    I Have A BH sprinter like the one pictured above I found it to be a fairly high quality plane that flies good I used a ST 45 and changed the motor mount to a great planes adj. mount mine is covered with ultracote (their claim) I used a 2000 mil. nimh. and did not have to add any weight. I got the red cowl with the blue spinner too some pics of mine are in a saratoga 40 thread Greg
    How do you find the trike gear, does it tip over very easily from a slight cross wind, do you fly from a grass or asphat / concrete runway?
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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    I fly from grass the nose gear is unusual in that it flex's just above the wheel instead of up higher on the nose gear like most trike gear setups. I found that the plane would sort of trip over itself on take off because of the nose wheel flexing bringing the nose down (I wish I could describe this better) however once in the air the plane flew great I could post a pic of the nose gear if you want but not today. Greg

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    RE: Black Horse Angel Tail-dragger Conversion

    Yes my Angel had the same nose gear but it didn't last long, maybe 3 flights, before it came
    apart, replaced it with a Golden Skies RC nose gear, worked like a charm, just got tired of the
    plane tipping over and striking the prop while taxiing.
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    Hi Bill,
    Regarding the ANGEL CG, Where did you end up with the CG? Because i have a new ANGEL and it seems that the CG is at 95mm.
    Moreover, in general CG is at the wing tube, and 80mm is forward to the wing tube


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