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Old 08-17-2013, 09:23 AM
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I can't think of a another company that helped me into the air and to enjoy sport flying more than Carl Goldberg Models. I've flown both kits and ARF models. I started with the Mirage 550 EP model, then the Eagle 2, Tiger 2, Freedom 20 and the Extra 300 for built up kits. I also flew the following ARF models: Tiger 400, Laser 200, Skylark and Super Chipmunk. I started thinking about this after I went out to fly the Super Chipmunk, that is currently produced by Great Planes. I marvel at how well this small airplane flies and how much I enjoyed all of the other models through the years. I can't say I ever had a quality issue or a bad flying model from CGM. If you want to try something else to fly, there are many of these kits and ARF models available at your LHS or out of production kits on RCU or other websites. I feel fortunate to have the pleasure of flying models from such a company that bears the name of the great modeler himself, Carl Goldberg.
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:37 PM
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I agree CG stuff flies great. I've had a Tiger 60 arf, Eagle II arf, and a used Eaglet.
My Falcon III is near done. I'm restoring a Falcon 56 Mk II, and I have a Senior Falcon
waiting it's turn. The Super Chipmonk is on my wish list.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:57 PM
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My first plane over 30 years ago was a Golberg Falcon 56. She took a beating and as they say just kept on ticking. I still have 3 Tigers that I fly and a few kits to build. Dave
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Yes, the Tigers fly nice. I had one before the ARF version came out. It had an Enya .53 4 stroke on it and I flew it for 10+ years. I only fly EP models now and even the CGM ARF models fly well.
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:18 AM
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The Tiger 60 with retracts is one of my favorites. They are such clean flying planes. Dave
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I have enjoyed several CG Models kits and notice the current offerings are shrinking every year. Bummer.
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It is a bummer. If you go to the GGM website, they show most of the discontinued kits and ARF models. They only carry a fraction of what they used to. They down sized or were sold off to a company that didn't want to carry all the inventory. Either way, it is really too bad.
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:22 PM
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I too started with a Falcon 56, not a MKI, MKII or the MKII, it was the OLD first version. I had an O.S. FP 35 in the nose and flew it so much O wore the tire off. It was so beat and trashed, more patches than covering, yet still flew very well. I have had (2) Cubs, (2) Chipmunks, (2) Jr. Tigers, (1) Sr Falcon, (1) Tiger, more CL planes than I can count, free flight planes, man o man, I loved those planes.

I was bummed when the Tigers were stopped. I so wanted a Tiger with retracts.

Most people do not build now, if they do it is foam, carbon rods, flown, crashed, hot glued, then a new foam plane.


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Definitely a great company. Sig and Craftair are up there in the same league as well.
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I've flown a few CGM over the years, started with a Eagle II and I still have his Yak 54 77" and love flying that plane.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:00 AM
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I only have one CG plane...the Ultimate 10-300 but I recall it being a fantastic build 21 years ago, and it is still one of my faves in my squadron. It still has the original ABS cowl! But it was designed strong yet fairly light, and to fly beautifully. I still fly it once a month. Jon
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:28 AM
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Wow nice picture Jon,

I loved my freedom 20 , the more repairs I did on it the better it seemed to fly. When the wing was finally totalled, I cut a foam wing from an RCM plan for an aircraft called the Canard Assisted Tailess. The plane flew even better, I could hold full back stick with the plane at idle and it would come down almonst vertically and never really stall.

I also had a tiger 2, got one wing clipped off in a fun fly mid-air, so I cut a foam wing panel and spliced it to the wood panel. It flew but the wing would bend at the wood/foam junction under G loads so I felt it was unsafe and cut a complete foam wing for it. I put huge alerons on it and now it completely departs flight doing a snap roll(more like a tumble) then just resumes flight like nothing ever happened.

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Old 09-25-2013, 01:14 PM
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I inherited an old kit-built Tiger 2 from a buddy of mine my very first year in the hobby. I'm still flying it regularly, and my buddy who gave it to me can't believe the plane is still holding together. He swears it will just come apart in mid-flight one day as the 20-year old epoxy finally gives out, but so far this old bird hasn't missed a beat. I had it recovered a few years ago, and it's a big hit with folks in Cincinnati now.

I have a Tiger 2 ARF that I've flown as well, it needs a little bit of work and I'm thinking about putting lights all over it and making it a night flyer. The Tiger 2 is so predictable and stable that I think it would be a good choice. The ARF isn't so nice that I'd be overly upset about losing it if I'm wrong.

I also have a Protégé 60 ARF that Goldberg was shipping shortly before Hobbico acquired them. It's a wonderful airplane, basically a high wing version of the Tiger 60, that flies beautifully and displays well in the air with the factory trim scheme. I like it so much that I quit flying it with students.

As long as Goldberg designs are sold only as kits, model building will continue by necessity.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:13 AM
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I too have been a Goldberg fan. I have had, and still have the following: Eagle, Eaglet, SkyTiger, Skytiger Jr, Tiger 2, and recently picked up and restored an old Skylark.

All are really easy to build and are great kits to learn the ropes of balancing and trimming. Too bad they are not offering the kits as much. I had two of their ARFs and after years of building their kits, was really disappointed because of the problems I had with the covering and the really cheap construction. I had the Tiger 2 ARF come apart in mid air and this model took as much time to assemble, due to a number of fit and poor quality issue, as it took me to build the kit.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:05 AM
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I have never been with out a Tiger for quite a few years , They are a very nice plane.. The one I am flying right now is a 60 tail dragger with a OS 75 ax .Carl Goldberg really knew what he was doing .His kits are easy to build and easy to bash .
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:41 PM
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Well, let me join the CG gang, I have too enjoyed building most of the kits, Extra 300, Ultimate Bipe, falcon and more, I'mcurrently restoring my 16 years old CG cub, this time she is going to be pulled by an OS 70 Surpass and guided by my 10 ch 2.4 Futaba.

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Old 10-25-2013, 09:01 PM
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Falcon 56 and Gentle Lady here

Carl Goldberg Models was founded in 1955.

1959: AMA Fellow
1969: Model Aviation Hall of Fame
1978: National Free Flight Society Hall of Fame
1984: Vintage Radio Control Society Hall of Fame
1984: Howard McEntee Award
1992: Society of Antique Modelers Hall of Fame
1996: Kits and Plans Antiquitous Hall of Fame

http://www.modelaviation.com/carlgoldberg

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I have a Tiger 2 kit that I am just starting to build and Extra 300 that I have been working on for a while. Like the the Goldberg planes, learned to fly with a Falcon 56 back in the 90's.
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Wanted to share pictures of my C.G. Sukhoi. I built it in 1999. It has been a regular flyer in my hangar ever since. When first built I had a S.T. 2300 in it. It had adequate power for a plane of it's weight. But later I got crazy and later installed an O.S. 160 and it really performed good. But a about a year ago I wanted to see what gas was about so it was selected for a DLE 30. I was concerned about the weight because I had read to never let it's weight exceed 12 lb.s. because this was a 90/120 plane. But mine with the 2300 weighed 12 5 out of the box and the S.T. is not a heavy motor. The 160 really did not add any weight to speak of. So with trepidation I installed the DLE and the weight rose up to 13.5. But to my amazement it flies and handles even better heavier. Plus DLE does a great job. Along the way problems with the S.T. quitting I had a ton of dead stick landings and not ary a scratch from them. A great flying aircraft...
Down is half the distance up is.

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Nice Sukhoi M26, mine weighed just a bit under 10 lbs. with a Webra 1.20 engine. I could roll it into knife edge just after breaking ground and continue up into a knife edge loop. The joy of light weight, however I could never get it to tumble end over end in a Lomcevak, which I thought it was too light to maintain the angular rate of motion.

My first Goldberg was the Shoestring control line model with a St G21-35. Really a fun model back in 1967. I built a Falcon 56 in 1970' which was the so called deluxe kit. This one had the balsa spars even balsa wing dihedral braces except for the leading edge and trailing edge. This one has a much wider nose that the original, which was very narrow for an .09, .15, or .19 sized engine. The deluxe kit called out .15, .19 to .35 sized engines. The middle engine on each kit was underlined, so you assumed that to be recommended one. So mine was modestly powered with a OS .19 with three channels of an Orbit radio.

So many years later, I have a new build of another deluxe kit underway. Even have a Orbit radio to convert over to 2.4g, though the airborne will be all new stuff. This one gets an Enya .25 for a bit more push. Will go silk cover and dope finish like the last one. The first one met it's end when the wing spars snapped. It had been converted from three channel to four, and the anemic OS got changed out for the St combat engine with a Kavan carb. I was trying to do spins, and had increased the elevator throw. Well that day, the engine didn't idle, so about five high speed passes with a hard climb and there went the wing. Today I know that I was nose heavy (bigger engine, duh!). So the new one will be modestly powered with just rudder, elevator, and throttle.

I have an original Skylark kit, a Falcon 56 and Sr. Falcon wing kit, Shoestring (R/C version), as well as the Bucker (one really fine flying machine) still to build. The Sukhoi need a rebuild after a fuel filler dumped the fuel out midway through a flight. When the engine quits during a snap roll at about 10 feet off the ground, there is no glide.

I guess the point is, Goldberg kits really fly well.
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