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11-15-2016, 09:16 PM
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Hay N410DC,
They were sold by Horizon Hobbies a while ago. All you can get now are several sizes sold by Tower Hobbies. If you over power them...look up the mods done to them to make them last. I know...I've built several.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
They were sold by Horizon Hobbies a while ago. All you can get now are several sizes sold by Tower Hobbies. If you over power them...look up the mods done to them to make them last. I know...I've built several.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
11-16-2016, 12:14 PM
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Hay GSXR1000,
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
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11-16-2016, 02:00 PM
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11-16-2016, 05:22 PM
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I have a few of my own. An AMR giant stick with a DLE 55, a Hanger 9 120 ultra stick lite with a saito 180 converted to run on gas, and a Hanger 9 40 ultra stick with a evolution 10cc gas. Plus a couple of arf's stashed back. So count me in
11-16-2016, 10:09 PM
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Kiwi Kid and Dumb Thumbs you are Stick Brothers 47 and 48 respectively.
Kiwi Kid, I will be building a Baron 1914 over the winter. This is a classic French trainer from the 1970s which looks vaguely like a Morane-Saulnier. I plan to add ailerons to mine and to finish it as Tone Bayetto's Morane.
I also plan to tour New Zealand on a motorcycle during the 2017-2018 northern hemisphere winter! The weather here is too depressing for words just at the moment.
Kiwi Kid, I will be building a Baron 1914 over the winter. This is a classic French trainer from the 1970s which looks vaguely like a Morane-Saulnier. I plan to add ailerons to mine and to finish it as Tone Bayetto's Morane.
I also plan to tour New Zealand on a motorcycle during the 2017-2018 northern hemisphere winter! The weather here is too depressing for words just at the moment.
11-17-2016, 09:47 AM
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Hay GSXR1000,
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
11-17-2016, 10:11 AM
#135
Kiwi Kid and Dumb Thumbs you are Stick Brothers 47 and 48 respectively.
Kiwi Kid, I will be building a Baron 1914 over the winter. This is a classic French trainer from the 1970s which looks vaguely like a Morane-Saulnier. I plan to add ailerons to mine and to finish it as Tone Bayetto's Morane.
I also plan to tour New Zealand on a motorcycle during the 2017-2018 northern hemisphere winter! The weather here is too depressing for words just at the moment.
Kiwi Kid, I will be building a Baron 1914 over the winter. This is a classic French trainer from the 1970s which looks vaguely like a Morane-Saulnier. I plan to add ailerons to mine and to finish it as Tone Bayetto's Morane.
I also plan to tour New Zealand on a motorcycle during the 2017-2018 northern hemisphere winter! The weather here is too depressing for words just at the moment.
11-17-2016, 10:22 PM
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I intend to hire a motor cycle when out there. It would cost too much to ship my bike out to the other side of the world and back.
Besides I don't know whether the New Zealand government allows bikes with foreign number plates to be ridden on their roads. The Australian government does not allow it. If you turn up at an Australian port with a foreign-registered bike you have to get Australian registration plates before they will allow you into the country with it.
I'm having enough problems trying to register my British registered Triumph as a French bike but I'd been warned about French bureaucracy! A trip to Limoges 94 kilometres away (58 miles) looks to be on the cards as I need to get a "Certificate A Conformite" from the nearest Triumph agent. There I may well find myself arguing about the 100 horsepower rule which was abandoned by the French government at the start of 2016 but the agency doesn't seem to know that! Either that or they want the job of fitting the 100bhp restriction kit to my bike! It'll test my French anyway!
I have set up my transmitter (Spektrum DX9) so that I may use the Stick 1500 as a trainer. At half-speed the model flies very well at a speed which should not intimidate a beginner but very strong winds are forecast for the next few days so flying may not be possible. We may be able to go flying on Saturday when winds are forecast to diminish to 19kph (11mph.)
Besides I don't know whether the New Zealand government allows bikes with foreign number plates to be ridden on their roads. The Australian government does not allow it. If you turn up at an Australian port with a foreign-registered bike you have to get Australian registration plates before they will allow you into the country with it.
I'm having enough problems trying to register my British registered Triumph as a French bike but I'd been warned about French bureaucracy! A trip to Limoges 94 kilometres away (58 miles) looks to be on the cards as I need to get a "Certificate A Conformite" from the nearest Triumph agent. There I may well find myself arguing about the 100 horsepower rule which was abandoned by the French government at the start of 2016 but the agency doesn't seem to know that! Either that or they want the job of fitting the 100bhp restriction kit to my bike! It'll test my French anyway!
I have set up my transmitter (Spektrum DX9) so that I may use the Stick 1500 as a trainer. At half-speed the model flies very well at a speed which should not intimidate a beginner but very strong winds are forecast for the next few days so flying may not be possible. We may be able to go flying on Saturday when winds are forecast to diminish to 19kph (11mph.)
11-18-2016, 05:13 AM
#137
I intend to hire a motor cycle when out there. It would cost too much to ship my bike out to the other side of the world and back.
Besides I don't know whether the New Zealand government allows bikes with foreign number plates to be ridden on their roads. The Australian government does not allow it. If you turn up at an Australian port with a foreign-registered bike you have to get Australian registration plates before they will allow you into the country with it.
I'm having enough problems trying to register my British registered Triumph as a French bike but I'd been warned about French bureaucracy! A trip to Limoges 94 kilometres away (58 miles) looks to be on the cards as I need to get a "Certificate A Conformite" from the nearest Triumph agent. There I may well find myself arguing about the 100 horsepower rule which was abandoned by the French government at the start of 2016 but the agency doesn't seem to know that! Either that or they want the job of fitting the 100bhp restriction kit to my bike! It'll test my French anyway!
I have set up my transmitter (Spektrum DX9) so that I may use the Stick 1500 as a trainer. At half-speed the model flies very well at a speed which should not intimidate a beginner but very strong winds are forecast for the next few days so flying may not be possible. We may be able to go flying on Saturday when winds are forecast to diminish to 19kph (11mph.)
Besides I don't know whether the New Zealand government allows bikes with foreign number plates to be ridden on their roads. The Australian government does not allow it. If you turn up at an Australian port with a foreign-registered bike you have to get Australian registration plates before they will allow you into the country with it.
I'm having enough problems trying to register my British registered Triumph as a French bike but I'd been warned about French bureaucracy! A trip to Limoges 94 kilometres away (58 miles) looks to be on the cards as I need to get a "Certificate A Conformite" from the nearest Triumph agent. There I may well find myself arguing about the 100 horsepower rule which was abandoned by the French government at the start of 2016 but the agency doesn't seem to know that! Either that or they want the job of fitting the 100bhp restriction kit to my bike! It'll test my French anyway!
I have set up my transmitter (Spektrum DX9) so that I may use the Stick 1500 as a trainer. At half-speed the model flies very well at a speed which should not intimidate a beginner but very strong winds are forecast for the next few days so flying may not be possible. We may be able to go flying on Saturday when winds are forecast to diminish to 19kph (11mph.)
Yeah, if you read a whole lot of my replies for planes that beginners should start on. I actually recommend a stick as a trainer for someone who is on a buddy box instructor training at a field. The stick can be trimmed trainer style and that the new pilot won't really outgrow, but can grow into it and trim it for sport flying after done using it in trainer trim.
11-23-2016, 02:48 PM
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Hay GSXR1000,
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
Your correct...Ultra Sticks were not only four servo wings...but they also were built better the Towers Big Sticks. The balsa used in Big Sticks is questionable...and I have build several. You need to watch the aft part of the fuse, near where the horizontal stab meets and is set into the fuselage-on three models the balsa was so soft...I had to reinforce it. I always take 1/64th. ply and before I install the stall the stab, pull the covering off and from 3"~6" forward of the leading edge of the stab...and on all four sides of the aft end of the fuselage... reinforce this with one layer of 1/64th aircraft quality plywood. No lite ply here...use the good stuff. I also if I am going to install a larger engine on to the model, mount my rudder and elevator servo aft, just forward of the stab-This will help with the C.G. I beef up the fire wall too (Triangular hard wood) and then coat all the insides of the fuse from the firewall aft to the bulkhead where the trailing edge of the wing sets...with thinned epoxy and denatured alcohol. This may take a few days to get hard..but eventually it will harden. The wings seem to be well built...no issues here.
Soft Landing Always,
Bobby of Maui
Yes I like Stiks. My overall favorite models. I have owned several and learned to fly on a Little Stik. I have a Little Stik kit in my attic and when I build it I will color it the same as the first one built way back in 1978. My two favorite colors, orange and white.
And I need a brotherhood number please.
11-23-2016, 05:50 PM
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Hay Ratshooter,
The last .60~.90 size stick was the problem build. Both sides and bottom of the stick balsa wood was so soft on my first run up with a RCGF 20cc gas engine...caused a wood break from the leading edge of the stab....all around the fuselage on three sides. The top piece of balsa on the aft fuselage kept the tail in one piece. I know I used a gas engine on the model...and they do shack a bunch more the two stroke glow engines. I also mounted my rudder and elevator servo's aft just forward of the stab on both sides of the fuselage. I reinforced this area with a nice aircraft class ply wood support for both servo's. My last .40 size big stick had a K&B .61 Twister mounted. Nice match for power and vertical abilities-doesn't fly through trees at all-but a great re-kit. I over power all my sticks...but its sad that Horizon no longer sells ultra stick models anymore. Horizon Hobbies made the strongest ARF ugly sticks on the market. I have back ordered the 30cc gas engine big stick from Tower and I plan on installing a VVRC twin cylinder 40cc gas engine into it-I have on hand. I will do the build here when it arrives.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
The last .60~.90 size stick was the problem build. Both sides and bottom of the stick balsa wood was so soft on my first run up with a RCGF 20cc gas engine...caused a wood break from the leading edge of the stab....all around the fuselage on three sides. The top piece of balsa on the aft fuselage kept the tail in one piece. I know I used a gas engine on the model...and they do shack a bunch more the two stroke glow engines. I also mounted my rudder and elevator servo's aft just forward of the stab on both sides of the fuselage. I reinforced this area with a nice aircraft class ply wood support for both servo's. My last .40 size big stick had a K&B .61 Twister mounted. Nice match for power and vertical abilities-doesn't fly through trees at all-but a great re-kit. I over power all my sticks...but its sad that Horizon no longer sells ultra stick models anymore. Horizon Hobbies made the strongest ARF ugly sticks on the market. I have back ordered the 30cc gas engine big stick from Tower and I plan on installing a VVRC twin cylinder 40cc gas engine into it-I have on hand. I will do the build here when it arrives.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
11-24-2016, 07:22 AM
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The three 60 sized Big Stiks I've put together recently had very poor quality wood used for the front wing hold-down. I added dowels and had no further issues. I also moved the rudder and elevator servos to the back. Surprisingly, the firewall has been fine without any added reinforcement. A hard landing will break the wood at the front of the stab as mentioned by Bob Paris. I simply added some plywood on the bottom of the fuse in front of the stab.
The 40 sized Big Stik is built much better. I've been flying mine nearly stock for six years now and it is holding up fine. I made mine a taildragger and added a Macs muffler to an OS 46AX and APC 12-4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VvKYNxWlE&t=272s
The 40 sized Big Stik is built much better. I've been flying mine nearly stock for six years now and it is holding up fine. I made mine a taildragger and added a Macs muffler to an OS 46AX and APC 12-4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VvKYNxWlE&t=272s
11-24-2016, 07:39 AM
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Thanks Telemaster. My first post was page 3 post #52.
Thanks Bob. I wish I could make it Hawaii to fly with you. What a great place to be.
warhwk I have watched that video several times. I think your plane has a little more power than mine. I have a TT 46 on mine but haven't rung it out like that. My Stik is on the bench right now getting ready for a sex change. No more nose wheel. A tail dragger is on the way.
One thing about the GP stik is the fuselage almost comes to a point at the back of the plane. The Sweet Stik and Little Stik both have more wood in that area on the sides of the body. I always thought the GP version looked sorta strange that way. But even the Ugly Stik is small at the tail end of the fuselage. Oh well, I guess it works.
Thanks Bob. I wish I could make it Hawaii to fly with you. What a great place to be.
warhwk I have watched that video several times. I think your plane has a little more power than mine. I have a TT 46 on mine but haven't rung it out like that. My Stik is on the bench right now getting ready for a sex change. No more nose wheel. A tail dragger is on the way.
One thing about the GP stik is the fuselage almost comes to a point at the back of the plane. The Sweet Stik and Little Stik both have more wood in that area on the sides of the body. I always thought the GP version looked sorta strange that way. But even the Ugly Stik is small at the tail end of the fuselage. Oh well, I guess it works.
12-03-2016, 12:18 AM
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Hay FlyherInOKC,
I flew a little stick with a OS. Winkel .30 back in 1972. On the little stick...a Larry Lenard kit...it flew quite well. What amazed me was the acceleration of the engine from a dead idle to full power in blink of an eye. Amazing performance. The Stick .40 is a bit larger and heavier and but with the Winkel mounted on a Little Stick...it flew ! The only problem I had was I folded the wing just outboard of the center wing sheeting. I fixed that by exchanging the wing spar balsa with stiff bass wood. Fixed the problem and loved the combination. I do have a 30 cc Big Stick back ordered from Tower...I plan on putting a VVRC twin cylinder 40 cc gas engine in this model. I also will use the model to brake in two EME 35 cc gas engines for my Giant Ugly Stick Twin I am building from AMR. I will be using electric start engines-no more flipping props to start, a Twin Sync-to keep the engine singing, 32 oz. smoke-piped to both engines, fowler flaps (via Robert Flower Flap hinges), a tail dragger too and video Cams mounted. The Fuse is built...and on the wings soon. I need 17 channels to do the deed and have purchase a new Spectrum Tx for the job...and I was told by Horizen the Tx is on the way. So this is going to be my biggest Ugly Stick of all. I have built one, two, three and four engine Ugly Sticks in my time...and love how they fly.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
I flew a little stick with a OS. Winkel .30 back in 1972. On the little stick...a Larry Lenard kit...it flew quite well. What amazed me was the acceleration of the engine from a dead idle to full power in blink of an eye. Amazing performance. The Stick .40 is a bit larger and heavier and but with the Winkel mounted on a Little Stick...it flew ! The only problem I had was I folded the wing just outboard of the center wing sheeting. I fixed that by exchanging the wing spar balsa with stiff bass wood. Fixed the problem and loved the combination. I do have a 30 cc Big Stick back ordered from Tower...I plan on putting a VVRC twin cylinder 40 cc gas engine in this model. I also will use the model to brake in two EME 35 cc gas engines for my Giant Ugly Stick Twin I am building from AMR. I will be using electric start engines-no more flipping props to start, a Twin Sync-to keep the engine singing, 32 oz. smoke-piped to both engines, fowler flaps (via Robert Flower Flap hinges), a tail dragger too and video Cams mounted. The Fuse is built...and on the wings soon. I need 17 channels to do the deed and have purchase a new Spectrum Tx for the job...and I was told by Horizen the Tx is on the way. So this is going to be my biggest Ugly Stick of all. I have built one, two, three and four engine Ugly Sticks in my time...and love how they fly.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
12-04-2016, 06:31 PM
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Dear Warhwk,
I wish I did...but I lost the model when I lost bind in flight....with new Tx. I sent in my Tx and found out it had an issue from its production run...but I was never told about the issue, because it was out of warrantee. I lost three models before I realized I had a problem with my Tx. I had three .32's on board and let me tell you...it was a very, very fast model. It went in full throttle into asphalt. There was nothing left of the model but scrap...with all three engines damaged beyond repair and all radio gear trashed. The bump on the top of the starboard wing root is a cover for the throttle servo body. It flew great and I managed to get about 25 flights on it, until it went in hard.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
I wish I did...but I lost the model when I lost bind in flight....with new Tx. I sent in my Tx and found out it had an issue from its production run...but I was never told about the issue, because it was out of warrantee. I lost three models before I realized I had a problem with my Tx. I had three .32's on board and let me tell you...it was a very, very fast model. It went in full throttle into asphalt. There was nothing left of the model but scrap...with all three engines damaged beyond repair and all radio gear trashed. The bump on the top of the starboard wing root is a cover for the throttle servo body. It flew great and I managed to get about 25 flights on it, until it went in hard.
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
